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AFAIK, the Vibra chip-based does not have Treble/Bass. I had a couple and recycled them. Actually, I had a whole MESS of Creative's. Sorry... :(

(edit - forgot to mention - I DO have the Vibra drivers.)

Scroll down and avoid the (Vibra) ones listed -
http://en.wikipedia....ound_Blaster_16

FWIW, I could dig through my drivers to see which ones (models) I had (may still have) that do support the controls. Still, you'd have to find the hardware.

HTH

I ordered a CREATIVE LABS - SoundBlaster 16 ISA Sound Card CT2980 (not Vibra) on Amazon that should be here any day now so I'm looking for the correct drivers for that. I think I'm probably not going to use the Vibra's since they have no bass/treble controls.

Also, I'm not able to access the cdrom drive from DOS using the D: command. I found these solutions from Microsoft but have never messed with this stuff.
This behavior can occur if any of the following conditions exist:

The CD-ROM driver or Mscdex.exe file is disabled (commented) or missing from the Autoexec.bat or Config.sys file.
The CD-ROM driver or Mscdex.exe file is missing or damaged.
The startup disk does not contain the CD-ROM driver or Mscdex.exe file.
You have replaced the original CD-ROM and not updated MS-DOS drivers.

To access a CD-ROM drive when you boot to a Windows command prompt or restart the computer in MS-DOS mode, you must load the real-mode CD-ROM driver in the Config.sys file and the MSCDEX driver in the Autoexec.bat or Dosstart.bat file. If your CD-ROM drive is supported in protected mode in Windows, the real-mode CD-ROM and MSCDEX drivers are most likely not being loaded in the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat or Dosstart.bat files on the hard disk. In addition, if you boot from a floppy disk, the CD-ROM and MSCDEX drivers will not load unless you manually configure the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files on the floppy disk to load them.

Edited by Hoko, 04 May 2013 - 07:09 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
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This Sound Card?
http://www.amazon.co...0/dp/B004571LK2
The Wikipedia link I gave claims it's a Vibra16 ISA PnP Value (no bass/treble).

Look here -
http://www.dosgames....bout772-15.html
and scroll down about 2/3 of a screen (or "find" the string "ct2980")... still a Vibra16...

CD-ROM won't be recognized in MS-DOS or going to DOS-Mode without EXACTLY what the MS Article said. You'll have to CREATE a "DOSSTART.BAT" as it (AFAICR) doesn't exist by default. If, however, under MS-Windows the CD-ROM is recognized, you don't want to change AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.

Some tips here -
http://www.msfn.org/...ve-in-dos-mode/

By what method did you Install from the CD-ROM? A Boot Floppy? :yes: Look at the contents of the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT using Notepad for an example. ;)

edit - AAAAAND some info on using the Sound Card in DOS -
http://www.msfn.org/...os-on-98se-box/
Best bet for Bass/Treble - forget the Sound Card controlling them and try to find some Speakers with "knobs" on them. I use a set that also has a Volume Knob on it.

Edited by submix8c, 03 May 2013 - 10:27 AM.

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This Sound Card?
http://www.amazon.co...0/dp/B004571LK2
The Wikipedia link I gave claims it's a Vibra16 ISA PnP Value (no bass/treble).

I was going more by the amount of I/O holes where you plug in. I've noticed the Vibra's have 3 and the 16's have 4. This one has 4. Don't even know if thats right, just an observation. But...

As you can see the 16 is much larger and has more stuff on the board than the Vibra.
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The Vibra also only has 3 I/O ports.
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And the SoundBlaster 16 has 4.
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And the final verification is the label.
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Edited by Hoko, 04 May 2013 - 07:10 PM.

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Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
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I was loading Dial-up Networking 1.4 and it was asking for some files from the Microsoft Dial-up Networking Package that I didn't have. netapi.dll, CFGWIZ.DLL, CFGWIZ32.EXE, NDSWAN16.DLL, NDSWAN32.DLL, WAN.TSP

Anyone know where I can get these?
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HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

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All those files are included as part of the Dial Up Networking 1.4 Package. You seem to have an inordinate amount of trouble getting these updates to find themselves. :w00t: :lol:

Seriously though, I don't know why the installer can't manage to find them itself. Try the advice I gave earlier (below), if that doesn't work, use 7-Zip or whatever to unpack the dun14-95.exe package and you will find those files inside msdun.cab.

Try pointing the Driver dialog to C:\WINDOWS, C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM, C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS (if it exists), etc etc. The installation may have pre-copied the files to the proper locations, but the INF file is requesting them to copy again. This happens sometimes, even with Microsoft's own USBSUPP updates. :}

The installer may also be unpacking the files to a temporary folder under C:\WINDOWS\TEMP, so check there as well... :unsure:



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I was loading Dial-up Networking 1.4 and it was asking for some files from the Microsoft Dial-up Networking Package that I didn't have. netapi.dll, CFGWIZ.DLL, CFGWIZ32.EXE, NDSWAN16.DLL, NDSWAN32.DLL, WAN.TSP

Anyone know where I can get these?

LOL. You're still using a modem with a dial-up ISP?

Or is it for PPPoE?

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LOL. You're still using a modem with a dial-up ISP?

Or is it for PPPoE?

It's not that simple. The old "Dial-Up Networking" updates for Windows 9x contained updates for all "networking" functions in general. So one should install these whether you use dial-up or not. ;)

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All those files are included as part of the Dial Up Networking 1.4 Package. You seem to have an inordinate amount of trouble getting these updates to find themselves. :w00t: :lol:

Seriously though, I don't know why the installer can't manage to find them itself. Try the advice I gave earlier (below), if that doesn't work, use 7-Zip or whatever to unpack the dun14-95.exe package and you will find those files inside msdun.cab.


Try pointing the Driver dialog to C:\WINDOWS, C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM, C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS (if it exists), etc etc. The installation may have pre-copied the files to the proper locations, but the INF file is requesting them to copy again. This happens sometimes, even with Microsoft's own USBSUPP updates. :}

The installer may also be unpacking the files to a temporary folder under C:\WINDOWS\TEMP, so check there as well... :unsure:

I will check on those. Not sure how to put them into DUN1.4 after I find them. I just skipped over those files during installation and the program loaded successfully. Thx
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
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To take a different rabbit trail, I found a website that sells and repairs motherboards. http://www.motherboa...nt-3C40P1377578 All the USB ports on my emachine 466is motherboard and small front board are trashed :} and was looking for someone who could repair them or sold that motherboard. I sent an email a few days ago but haven't received a reply yet. Anyone know if this site is legit? :unsure:
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
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To take a different rabbit trail, I found a website that sells and repairs motherboards. http://www.motherboa...nt-3C40P1377578 All the USB ports on my emachine 466is motherboard and small front board are trashed :} and was looking for someone who could repair them or sold that motherboard. I sent an email a few days ago but haven't received a reply yet. Anyone know if this site is legit? :unsure:


Fortunately I found a better option. I found a Florida TG motherboard on ebay :w00t: and should be here any day now. No more messing around with trying to get USB fixed. B)
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

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HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

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LOL. You're still using a modem with a dial-up ISP?

Or is it for PPPoE?

It's not that simple. The old "Dial-Up Networking" updates for Windows 9x contained updates for all "networking" functions in general. So one should install these whether you use dial-up or not. ;)

Which of these should I use for Win95 and which ones should I scrap? :unsure:
wmi9x 95
w95usbflash11
usbview Win95
tapi2195
regedits 95
paint 95
ntfs_h 95
immc win 95
grphlts 95 paint update
dst_9x
crypt9x
Also am trying to download USBSUPP.EXE but not sure how that Zshare page works

Edited by Hoko, 07 July 2013 - 08:04 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Which of these should I use for Win95 and which ones should I scrap? :unsure:
wmi9x 95
w95usbflash11
usbview Win95
tapi2195
regedits 95
paint 95
ntfs_h 95
immc win 95
grphlts 95 paint update
dst_9x
crypt9x
Also am trying to download USBSUPP.EXE but not sure how that Zshare page works

All of them should be fine except USBVIEW and w95usbflash11.

USBVIEW does NOT work under 95 at all, and for now, use USBSTR95 rather than w95usbflash11. USBSTR95 provides the best currently publicly available USB Storage solution for 95.

On zShare, you click "Free Download", and you have to endure an ad popup, then you wait 25 seconds or so while it counts down, and then click to download.

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Which of these should I use for Win95 and which ones should I scrap? :unsure:
wmi9x 95
w95usbflash11
usbview Win95
tapi2195
regedits 95
paint 95
ntfs_h 95
immc win 95
grphlts 95 paint update
dst_9x
crypt9x
Also am trying to download USBSUPP.EXE but not sure how that Zshare page works

All of them should be fine except USBVIEW and w95usbflash11.

USBVIEW does NOT work under 95 at all, and for now, use USBSTR95 rather than w95usbflash11. USBSTR95 provides the best currently publicly available USB Storage solution for 95.

On zShare, you click "Free Download", and you have to endure an ad popup, then you wait 25 seconds or so while it counts down, and then click to download.


Thx for that info LC :)
Is that USBSTR95 program the same thing as NUSB?

Edited by Hoko, 07 July 2013 - 10:57 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Thx for that info LC :)
Is that USBSTR95 program the same thing as NUSB?

No problem. ;)

USBSTR95 is "as close as you can get" to NUSB for Windows 95 at the moment.

It supports basically all USB Flash Drives and all USB Floppy Drives. Card Readers are a toss up. USB Hard Drives don't work, and neither do USB CDROMs, etc, don't know about USB ZIP drives.

It suffers from a limitation, only ONE USB Flash Drive can be connected ONE time per Windows 95 session. You must reboot before you can use another (or the same) Flash Drive again. w95usbflash11 has this same limitation, as both packages use the same core drivers for Flash Drives.

The best thing about USBSTR95 is that it provides a nice Unplug/Eject utility that is otherwise not available under 95 like under 98SE/ME.

Hopefully, a better USB Storage Solution for 95 will be available soon. :angel




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