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Posted 18 April 2013 - 07:26 PM

Hi, i am trying to install Windows 98 into a SanDisk cruzer micro 4gb. I used hp format utility to make a dos boot drive on the usb disk, then i dragged the installation files into usb disk. When it booted into the usb disk, i ran the setup and selected to install it on the usb i am using, after the reboot, it shows the looking for drivers animation, then i get the bsod, then i click enter to continue, and i get a blue box, where i can move the mouse only.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:28 PM

Boot into Safe Mode.
Disable, not remove, all of the USB Drivers using Device Manager.
Reboot.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:24 AM

When i went to safe mode it told me it can't install drivers in safe mode. When i click okay, nothing i can click is on the screen.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:27 AM

View Postasdfg, on 19 April 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

When i went to safe mode it told me it can't install drivers in safe mode. When i click okay, nothing i can click is on the screen.

You mean that you don't get the "Start" button?

What happens if you press when booted in safe mode Ctrl+Alt+Canc?
Do you get Task Manager?
As in:
http://www.guidebook...enshots/win98se
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Which tasks do you see running?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:32 PM

View Postjaclaz, on 19 April 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

Ctrl+Alt+Canc?

Eh? :unsure:
I assume specific to non-US keyboards. Should be Ctrl+Alt+Del on US ones. ;)

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:35 PM

View Postasdfg, on 19 April 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

When i went to safe mode it told me it can't install drivers in safe mode. When i click okay, nothing i can click is on the screen.

I said DISABLE, not install.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:41 PM

View PostLoneCrusader, on 19 April 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

View Postjaclaz, on 19 April 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

Ctrl+Alt+Canc?

Eh? :unsure:
I assume specific to non-US keyboards. Should be Ctrl+Alt+Del on US ones. ;)

Yep :), my bad :blushing: , forgot to translate the "Canc" (Italian) to "Del" (English), BUT since I posted an image in which CTRL+ALT+DEL (again) is mentioned ;), you are given honoris causa the grammar police badge I received just today from submix8c:
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:46 PM

View Postjaclaz, on 19 April 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

Yep :), my bad :blushing: , forgot to translate the "Canc" (Italian) to "Del" (English), BUT since I posted an image in which CTRL+ALT+DEL (again) is mentioned ;), you are given honoris causa the grammar police badge I received just today from submix8c:
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(It's like a hot potato :yes:, pass it on :angel )

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:lol:

BTW, off-topic, but after finding this I finally understand the "de La Palice" references. :w00t:
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 01:22 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAH!

Thank you both for the hoot of the day!

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 01:24 PM

:angel :D

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

In task manager I only see explorer

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:55 PM

View Postasdfg, on 19 April 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

In task manager I only see explorer

I said DEVICE Manager, not Task Manager.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:13 PM

I can't access device manager because all i see is the safe mode background, and the task man thing was for jaclaz. Sorry about that. :blushing:

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:04 PM

Edit a file named SYSTEM.CB
Add to it a section like this:

[vcache]
MaxFileCache=393216


Let's see whether this improves your Safe Mode enough for you to be able to follow RLoew's instructions.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:53 AM

It didn't work (the system.cb) . I think my problem is i am at the part when the system install the drivers in the background that says something like "98 setup" on the top

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:38 AM

View Postasdfg, on 20 April 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

It didn't work (the system.cb) . I think my problem is i am at the part when the system install the drivers in the background that says something like "98 setup" on the top

The cause for the issue is to be detemined, but the actual effects can maybe be mitigated.

Right now the issues (effects) are that:
  • you cannot boot win "normal" mode (because the system crashes)
  • you can boot to safe mode BUT the shell doesn't load (fully), i.e. you get the desktop and Explorer is running BUT you have no Start button/tray

Your next attempt could be that of attempting to load an alternate shell (winfile) to see if you can boot in safe mode (and from it do what rloew suggested).
Try following this:
http://www.mombu.com...nly-229791.html

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:17 PM

I think the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line must go into system.cb, too, to influence safe mode... Posted Image
BTW, "CB" means "clean boot", FTW.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:43 PM

I few month ago I successfully installed 98SE on a 2GB SD Card in a card reader according to these instructions How to Install Windows 98 SE onto a Flash Drive. If I remember correctly the SD Card worked in DOS comp. mode, anyway  windows was very slow. Then I tried to install 98SE on a 8GB Stick. The setup slowed down and seemed to hang. Maybe after two or three hours I cancelled it.

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