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OK ... I know you were not making "fun" of that post ... sort of ! When I was typing that earlier post, it popped in my head about satellites already in position snapping away. I remember reading 10 yrs ago, maybe 20 yrs ago that these satellites had cameras that could read the headlines off a newspaper that someone might be reading standing on a sidewalk.

Yes, I joke around about having a personal spy drone one day but as you have said and probably is very true, most ordinary people won't be able to afford the price of a decent spy drone. That dragon fly drone from several posts back sells for $119 and that would be in an affordable range ... just how good and reliable it is, don't really know and also how long can it fly after launch?

You hit the nail on the head ... there are always "talented people" that could put things together in a garage or back yard and make (build) a pretty nice flying drone from this and that ... like the early computer boys working out of a garage.

Well it was a good article and probably of more concern to a government (country) not wanting to lose some of their expensive "state of the art" drones to a hijacking zombie.

Still amazes me how "drone talk" has exploded this year compared to 2012 ... and are we going to one day hear that Microsoft has secret drones flying around for some reason ... could be more in that new Xbox or a future Xbox or a new computer program than we might think. Who can say what plans are on the table now.
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... and are we going to one day hear that Microsoft has secret drones flying around for some reason ...

Naah, they had them, and they were flying alright in DOS ;), but then the project passed to the Office division, which added to them ribbon interface and then again to the Metro division who removed remote control in favour of touch and the project stalled, they are now experimenting in genetics on how to grow people with longer arms....
:w00t:
.... if the project had gone to the Xbox/Kinect division, that would have probably made a BIG difference.... :yes:
There are rumours that they have an unauthorized project ongoing, the drone would need however to be constantly connected to the cloud, and if it looses connection for more than 1 nanosecond it comes down.
And BTW, you cannot sell the wreck unless you pay a fee to them :whistle: .

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I was here thinking... why not burrowing drones? :ph34r:
Simpler to power and to keep in place (no need to hover) and equally efficient to spy on one, right? :unsure:

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I was here thinking... why not burrowing drones? :ph34r:
Simpler to power and to keep in place (no need to hover) and equally efficient to spy on one, right? :unsure:

Sure :), noone will ever notice small holes in their floors or walls or strange bulges on their carpets. :whistle:

Come on, you don' t really-really believe that "they" put an awful amount of money and human resources to actually explore the substrate of Mars, do you? ;)
http://mars.jpl.nasa...pes/subsurface/

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Sure :), noone will ever notice small holes in their floors or walls or strange bulges on their carpets. :whistle:

Strange bulges on carpets is another matter attogether, but real tiny holes in walls or floors (or, much better, ceilings), only the most paranoid may notice (and just that fractions of the most paranoids having a vision good enough to see them up there has a chance of noticing them, BTW). Burrowing drones rock!!! Posted Image

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... or, much better, ceilings) ...


Yeah, sure noone ever looks at them :thumbup

The 1960's projects seemingly failed:
http://en.wikipedia..../Acoustic_Kitty
but that's more than 40 years ago....

https://i.chzbgr.com...2128/h5885FBD3/

We are like at the 10th generation....

https://i.chzbgr.com...8672/h41C02CA8/


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From jaclaz ...

The 1960's projects seemingly failed:

http://en.wikipedia..../Acoustic_Kitty

but that's more than 40 years ago....

well, maybe this little part says it all about the project being a failure! This is like something out of a Mel Brooks movie! This is freaking hilarious, my laugh for the day.


"The first Acoustic Kitty mission was to eavesdrop on two men in a park outside the Soviet compound in Washington, D.C. The cat was released nearby, but was hit and killed by a taxi almost immediately."
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Of course, the best way to thwart an Accoustic Kitty is by using a cone of silence full-time...

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Of course, the best way to thwart an Accoustic Kitty is by using a cone of silence full-time...


There is NO safe place.

Roboducks :w00t: can read lips allright:
https://i.chzbgr.com...5152/h9FEF2C96/

If "they" are after you, "they" will get you. :ph34r:

Resistance is futile! :whistle:

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P.S.: BTW there have been progresses in cat training in the meantime ;) :
https://i.chzbgr.com...5456/hF7412986/

Edited by jaclaz, 17 June 2013 - 04:16 AM.


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Here we go ... the insect drones now have power ... get out the flyswatters! ... don't think insect spray will work unless it fogs up the lens.

Scientists use 3D printer to create microbatteries smaller than a single GRAIN of sand, paving the way for high-powered flying robot insects.

http://www.dailymail...l-implants.html


The revolutionary technology behind 3D-printed car parts, food and guns can also be used to print batteries smaller than a grain of sand.

Scientists have used a 3D printer to make linthium-ion microbatteries that can fit into tiny devices that had previously stumped engineers looking to power them for longer periods.

The batteries were constructed from interlaced stacks of tiny battery electrodes, which conduct electricity, that are each smaller than the width of a single human hair.
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Found this article on the "mosquito" insect drone that was mentioned before:

Business Insider - Military Defense

The Future Of Micro Drones Could Get Downright Scary

http://www.businessi...-lovejoy-2012-6

It's been several years since the rumors and sightings of insect sized micro drones started popping up around the world.

Vanessa Alarcon was a college student when she attended a 2007 anti-war protest in Washington, D.C. and heard someone shout, "Oh my God, look at those."

"I look up and I'm like, 'What the hell is that?'" she told The Washington Post. "They looked like dragonflies or little helicopters. But I mean, those are not insects," she continued.
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and a refresher on the "dragon fly" drone ... "we saw an amazingly-realistic version that the CIA developed over 40 years ago" ...

New dragonfly drone can be controlled with a smartphone

http://www.treehugge...smartphone.html

Dragonflies have been a popular choice for nature-inspired drones. First, we saw an amazingly-realistic version that the CIA developed over 40 years ago, but scrapped once they couldn't get the flying part perfected. Then, more recently we saw a drone developed by Georgia Tech that copied the dragonfly's four-wing design and was equipped with a suite of data collecting sensors.

The latest offering in robo-dragonflies, however, is the first that a) can be controlled with a smartphone and B) looks ready to be owned right now. The BionicOpter was created by robotics company Festo and like the Georgia Tech version is outfitted with sensors and wireless communication technology that allows it to continuously transmit data that it is collecting.
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Edited by duffy98, 21 June 2013 - 12:24 PM.


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A nano-battery should be able to provide enough power to a nano-drone to fly it for a few nano-seconds. :whistle: ;)

In the spoiler there is an image of an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA sized prototype :w00t: .
Spoiler


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Any nano-moto-continuo will do fine, but I still favor a nano-Kamehameha (viz. かめはめ波) orb... either way it'll be able to fly forever, while sending countless data transmissions...

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Is it a bird?
Is it a plane?
Is it a drone?

Naah :no: , it's the "Orbit"! :w00t:
http://brainstorms.puzzlebox.info/
http://orbit.puzzlebox.info/

The actual news are that it is Brain-controlled..... :yes:

If you get to challenge Professor Xavier ....:
Spoiler


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Dry Cleaner Drone Delivers Clothes to Customers

http://www.nbcphilad...-214736141.html

A freshly laundered shirt, covered in plastic, flaps in the wind as it takes flight from in front of Manayunk Cleaners in Philadelphia.

It wasn’t picked up by a breeze, though, rather a remote-controlled drone, which ferries the shirt across the sky on a delivery run to a nearby customer.

“I’m all about technology and I see a lot of these cleaners, it’s so old school. You come in…and you just pick it up. I needed to spice things up,” says Manayunk Cleaners owner Harout Vartanian.
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Air Force drone crash closes remote Florida highway

 

http://www.foxnews.c...test=latestnews

 

An Air Force drone being tested at a nearby base crashed on takeoff Wednesday near a remote stretch of a Florida Panhandle highway. Officials say no one was injured but the road would be closed into Wednesday night.

The Air Force closed Highway 98 west of Panama City and east of Mexico Beach because of possible fires from the crash. Officials said the drone has a limited, 24-hour battery life and would be inactive after the battery depleted.

 

... the picture shows something burning ... lots of smoke so the battery and drone would "maybe" be inactive before 24 hours had passed ... however, I'm no rocket scientist !!!


Edited by duffy98, 18 July 2013 - 02:20 AM.


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Well... judging by the plume of smoke, I'd say it was a tad bigger than insect sized, don't you agree? :D



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I would have to agree but having lived in Florida for a time back in the 80's ... there were some pretty large insects around then and they have probably only gotten larger since I left. For instance, this news just broke in June ...

 

Huge Mosquitoes Spotted in Florida

 

http://www.livescien...es-florida.html

 

Enormous mosquitoes known as gallinippers (or Psorophora ciliata) have been spotted in Florida, according to WKMG, a CBS affiliate. The insects are about 20 times larger than most common mosquitoes. The sighting comes after a warning by the University of Florida that there could be a bumper crop of these mosquitoes this summer.

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Well... judging by the plume of smoke, I'd say it was a tad bigger than insect sized, don't you agree? :D

 

The article says it is a modified F-4 Phantom.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/F-4_Phantom

 

Of course, even the military's drones aren't particularly small, but they are smaller than the F-4 at least.


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Huge Mosquitoes Spotted in Florida

And related articles written by journalists that have had an amusing past as fishermen:

http://www.wtsp.com/...Florida-critter

 

 

Other media referenced "mega mosquito," "monster mosquitoes," or "ferocious," "super-sized" mosquitoes.

But insect experts say they're flabbergasted at how a seldom-seen mosquito that's always been here is drawing so much buzz.

 

 

 

Make no mistake, Psorophora ciliata is a big fella, four to five times the size of its skeeter peers.

Some media reported it as much as 20 times bigger.

Other reports said the mosquito is so large that it feels like a small bird when it lands on you "and that its bite is akin to being stabbed with a kitchen knife," lamented the spring edition of "Buzz Words," a UF newsletter, which critiqued the recent media coverage.

 

It all reminds me the original Calvin's report on bats:

http://mimosasonthef...arent-bugs.html

Dusk! With a creepy, tingling sensation, you hear the fluttering of leathery wings. Bats! With glòowing red eyes and glistening fangs, these unspeakable giant bugs drop onto...

 

:lol:

 

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Yes, I had actually read about the super big mosquitoes over a month ago and that they have been around for years but hardly ever seen by most people living in Florida, however this year was expected to be different. Anyway, you dug up a lot more info on them and a mention about the dreaded salt marsh mosquito. That one sounds horrible, if you get bit ... maybe like getting bit by a horse fly. Must be bad for the deer and other living things in the salt marsh.

 

Oh well, yes the "burning drone" either crashed or was shot down as target practice.

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Now, this is cool:
flyingrobots-6-300x300.jpg

http://www.extremete...being-developed

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Yes, very cool indeed ... this may be what dencorso had in mind when he posted this on 29 May ... Post #41  ...

 

"In the US, as here in Brazil, apartment buildings without elevators are next to non-existant. However, that's not so in Europe, where they are common in the most expensive neighborhoods, even in London, Paris and Milan. So what I do envisage as the probable 1st civillian use of a BigDog would be to be bought by such condominia, to bring up the stairs things, like, say, the packages with the goods just bought from the local supermarket."

 

... except these could lift heavy items to the roof ... furniture, appliances and such for people near the top of the building.

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Yes! That sure is like what I was envisaging... These multicopters (the 4-helixes one being a tetracopter) seem to be the 1st type of drones to have started to be available to the consumer (even here in Brazil)... but, for the time being, they're controlled by someone like any other radio-controlled aeromodel, so they're drones but not automatons. Now that one jaclaz found info about works without human intervention, so it *is* an automaton *and* a drone. But I still think I'd be more confortable issuing voice commands to a "big dog" type of robot, than to an intelligent tetracopter... but that's me, of course.



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I guess they now have another reason to take away guns ...

 

FAA Warns Public Against Shooting Guns at Drones

 

http://www.foxnews.c...guns-at-drones/

 

People who fire guns at drones are endangering the public and property and could be prosecuted or fined, the Federal Aviation Administration warned Friday.

The FAA released a statement in response to questions about an ordinance under consideration in the tiny farming community of Deer Trail, Colo., that would encourage hunters to shoot down drones. The administration reminded the public that it regulates the nation's airspace, including the airspace over cities and towns.

 

A drone "hit by gunfire could crash, causing damage to persons or property on the ground, or it could collide with other objects in the air," the statement said. "Shooting at an unmanned aircraft could result in criminal or civil liability, just as would firing at a manned airplane."

 

Under the proposed ordinance, Deer Trail would grant hunting permits to shoot drones. The permits would cost $25 each. The town would also encourage drone hunting by awarding $100 to anyone who presents a valid hunting license and identifiable pieces of a drone that has been shot down.

...

 

This just gets better and better ... a hunting permit to shoot down drones, I kinda like the idea ... if the Three Stooges were still here, this would be a great movie short ... go duck hunting and bring down a drone! I still think a "back yard" model rocket missle defense would work or perhaps rocket type fireworks could be modified in some way to not only "light up the sky" but bring down a drone as a bonus !!!

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Edited by duffy98, 20 July 2013 - 02:04 AM.


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Fresh news:

http://diydrones.com...:1348820&page=1

 

And no, you wont' need any particular device to notice one of these ;).

 

And another (nice? :unsure:) approach:

http://actu.epfl.ch/...ows-a-walkin-2/

fly-and-crawl :w00t:

 

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