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I installed a Sound Blaster 16 ISA CT2980 PnP in my 466is Win95 computer. These are the drivers I found for it on Creative's site. Should I install all these drivers?


The Driver(s) available for Sound Blaster 16 on Windows 95 is listed below.

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Change configuration or use Autoupdate
Driver
sbw9xup.exe

Filesize : 311.97 KB Download
Show Details
Release date : 13 Nov 98
Full duplex Sound Blaster 16/32/AWE Driver Updates for Windows 95/98 SDR-95UPD-1-US (Revision 16)
Creative PnP Configuration Manager (Rev 4)
Filesize : 689.49 KB Download
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Release date : 9 Jul 98
This is the Creative Configuration Manager for use with DOS 6.x and Windows 3.1x systems. This file is only applicable to those users who own PnP ISA (Plug and Play) versions of Creative hardware.
WaveSynth/WG Drivers Update For Windows 95 16/05/1997
Filesize : 1.34 MB Download
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Release date : 27 Jun 94

Edited by Hoko, 05 May 2013 - 10:52 AM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci


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You REALLY should provide Links when asking about a specific software (NOT a Direct File Link) -
http://us.creative.c...type=0&x=12&y=1

I had to properly Google to find where you had gotten that. To make matters worse, I apparently can't download because the "Download" links are roads to nowhere.

Expand the "more" to get the filenames, then google (example)
"ctcmbbs.exe" intitle:index.of
You'll want/need the DOS/WIN3.x files as well (the "other" ones you didn't list) if you want to run DOS games in MS-DOS mode. I had previously given some links for some "SET BLASTER" type information.

I have the same files for an AWE64 Gold ISA card (still have it). ONE you left unlisted (and may be unnecessary) for DOS is "SBBASIC.EXE".

Look here for what looks like a "full set" (maybe older, but...)
ftp://ftp.kstu-kai.ru/drivers/sound/Creative/SB16PNP.SB/

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You REALLY should provide Links when asking about a specific software (NOT a Direct File Link) -


Here's the link to the Creative download page I copied.
http://support.creat...ds/welcome.aspx


Look here for what looks like a "full set" (maybe older, but...)
ftp://ftp.kstu-kai.r...ive/SB16PNP.SB/

Should all these be used? Do the DOS drivers need to be loaded in DOS?

Edited by Hoko, 05 May 2013 - 02:36 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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First link you just provided is just a starting point. I gave the EXACT link to the SPECIFIC selections.

Second link you just gave is the one I gave to you. Just like the MS-DOS Mode CD Drivers, they should be loaded in the same way. MS-DOS mode is NOT the same as a Command Prompt. You LITERALLY Exit Windows and Start MS-DOS which is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT set of StartUp. ;) I have a set of DOS-Only MS Games that I start with a special BAT file that "kicks off" MS-DOS mode for each of them.
(Above is to answer your question about needing them)

Start with the Windows95 Drivers first to get it working and we'll work from there for DOS-Mode. Don't forget to Disable your On-Board Sound and REMOVE the "Device Manager" entries for it BEFORE popping the Card in.
1 - In Windows, Remove On-Board Sound in Dev. Mgr.
2 - Reboot to BIOS and Disable it - SAVE the Setting
3 - Shut Off / Unplug PC
4 - Insert Card / Plug In PC
5 - Start Windows and install Drivers
6 - Test Sound / Joystick (note: Midi is a different story)

REMEMBER that I said that Creative is (apparently) no longer providing the Files. You have to SEARCH for them as I said.

edit -
After looking at this Topic that you posted in
http://www.msfn.org/...ve-in-dos-mode/
I searched for the "older version" of that CD/DVD Driver and found it in the website where I found all of your Drivers AND if you look at the the "INDEX" file (yes, it's a TXT file) you'll get a description of their purpose.
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/creative/

Edited by submix8c, 05 May 2013 - 03:21 PM.

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Some of these Win95 files are text. For Autoexec.bat or Config.sys?

Edited by Hoko, 05 May 2013 - 04:58 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Another Sound Blaster Question. Where can I find the correct drivers for a Creative Labs SB0200 Sound Blaster Live! PCI sound card?
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Bouncing a lot on the Sound Card thing, aren't you?
http://www.nationmas...nd-Blaster-Live!

Sound Blaster Live! Dell OEM
This card, marketed as a Sound Blaster Live!, did not have the full capabilities of the retail versions of Live! It used a different audio chip, not EMU10K1 but EMU10K1X, that is noticeably smaller with fewer pins. The chip does not accelerate DirectSound in hardware, nor EAX. The sale of this board by Dell created some controversy because it was not obviously marketed as an inferior or cheaper product. The card can be identified by its part number (SB0200/0203).

Also see this -
http://www.msfn.org/...9x/page__st__80
Seems someone else had this card.

Looking at this to see if "fits" -
http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=1&prodID=1853&prodName=Sound%20Blaster%20Live!%205.1%20Digital%20%28Dell%29&CatName=Sound+Blaster#
edited here - nope - only XP/2K

Can you give the Chip Name to confirm?

Side note - a large collection here -
http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/

also specs here (apparently where above quote came from)
http://asounddrivers...r-sb0200-specs/

one on ebay (does NOT say EMU10K1X) -
http://www.ebay.com/...d-/251162460003
another that DOES say that -
http://www.ebay.com/...=item27cc2aa5dc

Edited by submix8c, 12 May 2013 - 04:38 PM.

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Bouncing a lot on the Sound Card thing, aren't you? Sound Blaster Live! Dell OEM
This card, marketed as a Sound Blaster Live!, did not have the full capabilities of the retail versions of Live! It used a different audio chip, not EMU10K1 but EMU10K1X, that is noticeably smaller with fewer pins. The chip does not accelerate DirectSound in hardware, nor EAX. The sale of this board by Dell created some controversy because it was not obviously marketed as an inferior or cheaper product. The card can be identified by its part number (SB0200/0203).

Ugh! It is the X! :blink: Thanks for pointing that out to me.
Actually the 16 is in the Win95 computer and the Live! was going to be for my Win98SE computer. :} Looks like I need to find a better card.

Edited by Hoko, 12 May 2013 - 11:52 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Does anyone have experience using a Sound Blaster card for Win98SE that produced high quality sound and ability to adjust the bass and treble?
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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There is no high quality sound possible with a soundblaster, sorry... :}

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There is no high quality sound possible with a soundblaster, sorry... :}

Ok, how about some suggestions?
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Ok, how about some suggestions?

I would recommend what I am using which is the ESI Juli@ : http://www.esi-audio...products/julia/

It approaches the quality of a Lynx2 (also Win9x compatible) but at about one-fifth of the price.




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