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Well I'm kindof at a standstill working on my Win95 computer until my ethernet card comes in so I'm going to go ahead and start on my Win98SE computer. Just bought this machine couple of months ago, the hard drive was wiped and I installed Win98SE on it and it is a :
DELL Optiplex GX150 (small desktop)
1Ghz Pentium 3 processor
512mb RAM
20gb HDD (going to have to upgrade that)
ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics card
Creative Labs SB0200 Sound Blaster Live! Was labeled as an Audigy 2 in the discount computer parts store I bought it from.
110w power supply
Intel 815 E chipset
Onboard ethernet port

Right now I would like to just find the correct drivers for everything and get the internet working and install basic updates and programs needed. I plugged it in to my router but evidently it needs more stuff before it will connect.

Edited by Hoko, 12 May 2013 - 10:51 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci


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For this one you should be able to go to Dell's website and enter the machine's Service Tag number. I haven't used Dell's site for a machine that old in a very long time though... :unsure:

I actually have a friend who used to use that same machine. I have all of the drivers for it archived somewhere. If you can't get what you need from Dell with the Service Tag, then I'll see if I can find them.

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For this one you should be able to go to Dell's website and enter the machine's Service Tag number. I haven't used Dell's site for a machine that old in a very long time though... :unsure:

I actually have a friend who used to use that same machine. I have all of the drivers for it archived somewhere. If you can't get what you need from Dell with the Service Tag, then I'll see if I can find them.

What is a service tag?
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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What is a service tag?

Somewhere on the machine there will be a sticker with a letter/number code on it. Usually it is even labeled "Service Tag." This is a unique identifier for each machine. When you enter it at Dell's support site, it will automatically give you all of the downloads for that particular machine.

See these: (I know your machine is older and will look different. ;) )
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If the sticker is missing, then it is usually encoded in the BIOS as well and can be read at the top of the screen there.

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What is a service tag?

Somewhere on the machine there will be a sticker with a letter/number code on it. Usually it is even labeled "Service Tag." This is a unique identifier for each machine. When you enter it at Dell's support site, it will automatically give you all of the downloads for that particular machine.

See these: (I know your machine is older and will look different. ;) )
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If the sticker is missing, then it is usually encoded in the BIOS as well and can be read at the top of the screen there.

Yes, there is a sticker on the bottom of the computer with the serial#, model#, and mfg date and the sticker on the back of the computer is the serial#. I'll check Dell site.
Yes! It worked, serial # brings up my computer and all the downloads it needs except I've only seen XP drivers so far. Downloaded non designated drivers (chipset, HDD, floppy, network card) I'll see if I can get on the internet with these.
Thx, LC :w00t:

Edited by Hoko, 09 May 2013 - 12:29 AM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Hi Hoko!

You must have visited the "usual" Dell support site most people usually find first.
There is another Dell support site that contains an abundance of "Legacy" drivers for most of the old machines!
I cannot find a link at this moment, since I am using another PC.
....I think I typed in "Optiplex GX110 video drivers", or something similiar. and found it that way.

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As a "general rule", even if you find only the XP drivers, you can have a look at the inf files and use some of the pid/vids inside them to search for other OS drivers.

Is your PC one of these?
http://www.ebay.com/...=item3cd17c7640

The GFX150 comes in different form factors.
The good guys at DELL have not (yet) understood that different products should have different names.

Manual is here:
ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_optiplex_desktop/optiplex-gx150_User%27s%20Guide_en-us.pdf

Drivers here:
http://www.dell.com/.../optiplex-gx150
(select Windows 98 in the drop down list)
should apply to all of them. :unsure:

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Yes, there is a sticker on the bottom of the computer with the serial#, model#, and mfg date and the sticker on the back of the computer is the serial#. I'll check Dell site.
Yes! It worked, serial # brings up my computer and all the downloads it needs except I've only seen XP drivers so far. Downloaded non designated drivers (chipset, HDD, floppy, network card) I'll see if I can get on the internet with these.
Thx, LC :w00t:

No problem. ;)

But you should have the option somewhere to choose other Operating Systems besides XP...

At any rate, the links jaclaz gave will provide the correct packages as well. The only advantage to using the Service Tag over the general download page is that using the Service Tag will filter out packages that do not apply to your machine. For example, sometimes Dell may have produced the same model of computer but used different Video Card manufacturers in some of them, so the general Downloads for that model will give you both video driver packages, while the Service Tag option will only give you the ones for your specific machine.

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Is your PC one of these?
http://www.ebay.com/...=item3cd17c7640



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Yep, that is the one. :yes: Thanks for those links :)
hmmm, the manual shows you 3 different versions of this computer. The Small Form Factor computer, the Small Desktop system and the Small Mini-Tower system. On ebay, the one I bought was listed as the SFF but mine is actually the Small Desktop system.

Edited by Hoko, 09 May 2013 - 08:51 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Installed display driver for 128 Rage Pro, thats working. Installed onboard sound driver, that's not working. Not showing any conflicts in Device Manager with sound. Do those html documents in the sound driver folder need to be installed for the sound to work? Installed IE 6, so slow i uninstalled it.
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Installed display driver for 128 Rage Pro, thats working. Installed onboard sound driver, that's not working. Not showing any conflicts in Device Manager with sound. Do those html documents in the sound driver folder need to be installed for the sound to work? Installed IE 6, so slow i uninstalled it.

No, the HTML documents are just for reference. Have you checked the BIOS settings to verify that the onboard sound, etc is all turned on? Have you already added the other sound card? If so, you should remove it for this...

Also if the onboard sound was turned on during your Win98 install, you may have to remove any "unknown devices" from the Device Manager in order for it to be redetected.

Edited by LoneCrusader, 10 May 2013 - 01:29 AM.


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Installed display driver for 128 Rage Pro, thats working. Installed onboard sound driver, that's not working. Not showing any conflicts in Device Manager with sound. Do those html documents in the sound driver folder need to be installed for the sound to work? Installed IE 6, so slow i uninstalled it.

No, the HTML documents are just for reference. Have you checked the BIOS settings to verify that the onboard sound, etc is all turned on? Have you already added the other sound card? If so, you should remove it for this...

Also if the onboard sound was turned on during your Win98 install, you may have to remove any "unknown devices" from the Device Manager in order for it to be redetected.

Ah, yes plenty of unknown devices, I'll try that.
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Hey LC, do you have a list of updates, programs, IE and DX that Win98SE needs or should have? Do I need some kind of virus protection for it before getting on the internet with it? :unsure: I don't know what version of IE comes with 98SE but I couldn't access some websites and was just bad.

Edited by Hoko, 10 May 2013 - 08:32 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Hey LC, do you have a list of updates, programs, IE and DX that Win98SE needs or should have? Do I need some kind of virus protection for it before getting on the internet with it? :unsure: I don't know what version of IE comes with 98SE but I couldn't access some websites and was just bad.

NUSB (version linked is not the newest but it will handle everything), Direct X 9.0c, IE 6 SP1, WMP7 (or WMP9, or even MDGx's Unofficial WMP10, depends on your preference). Firefox 2.0.0.20, Adobe Flash Player 9.0.289.0, Java 6 Update 7 (right click to save).

Also take a look at the Adblock Plus, PlainOldFavorites, and User Agent Switcher addons for Firefox. You will probably have to search older versions of those, especially Adblock Plus, to get one that works with FF2.

I don't use any AV software myself, but other members here can advise you better than I can on that issue. ;)

Edited by LoneCrusader, 02 June 2013 - 11:13 PM.


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Your NUSB link is 404 now, LC... so here's one of mine, this one to a well tested but not the latest version of NUSB.
As for AV software, I think aru's fixed ClamWin may be the best bet, nowadays, for a new installation. I don't favor no AV at all, nor do I believe in security through obscurity.

@LC: There's no avoiding it: the spx subdirectory at MDGx's is toast, and, thanks to an /spx/ entry in its robots.txt, there's no backup at the wayback machine. So, all that went poof! (= vanished in the ether). :(

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Your NUSB link is 404 now, LC...
@LC: There's no avoiding it: the spx subdirectory at MDGx's is toast, and, thanks to an /spx/ entry in its robots.txt, there's no backup at the wayback machine. So, all that went poof! (= vanished in the ether). :(

Wow, I don't know how I missed that, given the current state of things and my current project. :wacko:

I guess it just goes to show how much we depend on MDGx's site, without even thinking about it. I retrieved most of those links from there, except my own link for Flash Player. :(

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As I had previously pointed out, there MAY be a possibility that his website is being completely revamped, e.g.

W95-11D.EXE SIZE = 1.43 MB | W95-11D.ZIP SIZE = 1.68 MB | UPDATED = May 2 2013

http://www.mdgx.com/down.htm
A lot of stuff may "automagically" reappear in a new place... or not. :unsure:

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??? W95-11D.ZIP - complete contents has date/time=2013/05/05 12:00am
Until further notice by MDGx, extremely limited downloads. :(
http://www.mdgx.com/form.htm

Edited by submix8c, 12 May 2013 - 01:30 AM.

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??? W95-11D.ZIP - complete contents has date/time=2013/05/05 12:00am
Until further notice by MDGx, extremely limited downloads. :(
http://www.mdgx.com/form.htm

As I mentioned in the other thread, MDGx hasn't been answering my messages for over a year. I've sent about 4 emails over that span, and all have gone unanswered. :no:

Entire portions of the site; the /spx directory, (other parts linked from the bottom of one of the pages you linked :whistle: ), and who knows what else have simply vanished, and I don't think we should "expect" it to get fixed at this point. :ph34r:

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The jury is still out... Two of the "lists" missing. Also noting here mentions of Windows8/2012. It certainly is saying the "file" isn't found. The OTHER "lists" use SOME sort of index to list them (see the TOP of that page - PHP). Why would one assume that you could list the "SPX" directory without some method? Renamed/moved? We seem to be assuming it's just... GONE.

Waiting for jury to return...

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Your NUSB link is 404 now, LC... so here's one of mine, this one to a well tested but not the latest version of NUSB.

hmmm never get to the page where it actually downloads. Am I clicking the wrong links?

Edited by Hoko, 12 May 2013 - 10:47 PM.

Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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Your NUSB link is 404 now, LC... so here's one of mine, this one to a well tested but not the latest version of NUSB.

hmmm never get to the page where it actually downloads. Am I clicking the wrong links?

Don't know what's going on there. I'm getting the same loop.

You can get NUSB from here as well.

It's really funny when USB device manufacturers start distributing NUSB as a driver for one of their products from their official website... :whistle: :angel
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It's really funny when USB device manufacturers start distributing NUSB as a driver for one of their products from their official website... :whistle: :angel
:lol:

Yeah, it is. :)
Can you tell me if these programs would be good for 98SE?
IMMC WIN98SE
MICROSOFT PLUS 98!
MSAA20_RDK WIN98SE
MSBCKUP 98SE
AVIRA NTFS FOR DOS_H98SE
RP9 98SE
SYSPLG98
USB20DRV 98SE
Gateway eMachine eTower 466is - Windows 95c v2.5
Processor Intel Celeron 466mhz - RAM 256mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci
Sound Card Sound Blaster 16 isa

Dell Optiplex GX150 Small Desktop - Windows 98SE
Processor Pentium 3 1GHz - RAM 512mb
HDD 120gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce FX5200 256mb pci

IBM ThinkCentre - Windows XP Home Edition
ID# 814815U - Processor Pentium 4 2.8GHz - HDD 250gb
RAM 2.5gb - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6200 512mb pci

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IMMC WIN98SE - Don't know what this is offhand? :unsure:

MICROSOFT PLUS 98! - I always add this to my systems, just be sure not to install the old McAfee Antivirus that is included in it. (I also don't add the "compressed folders" extension because I use WinRAR, but it's up to you.)

MSAA20_RDK WIN98SE - Should be OK, never used it.

MSBCKUP 98SE - Should be OK, never used it

AVIRA NTFS FOR DOS_H98SE - Paragon NTFS may be a better choice... :unsure:

RP9 98SE - Personal choice. I don't use it.

SYSPLG98 - Not needed. Already in NUSB.

USB20DRV 98SE - DO NOT! I repeat DO NOT! Install this. NUSB covers this and this package is buggy.

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