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Windows 8.1 Impressions


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I was just curious as to what impressions had about what was coming down the pipe. Will the Start Menu return? What are changes are expected?
Personally I'm hoping for a re-inclusion of the classic (non-skinned) desktop, but I won't hold my breath.


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I installed a leak version of Win 8.1 (perhaps build 9385). No Start Menu. Can't say much about it either because I removed it after 2 hours of exploring. Not sure why I couldn't install Net framework 3.5. As a result, I couldn't run some needed applications.

I'll wait for a better official version to try. Now I am pleased with current Win 8 I am having.

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start button will come back, classic start menu won't
If you want true Windows user experience
try Longhorn builds: 3718, 4029, 4066

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Moving this to the beta forum until the product has been officially released.
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so MS shows some new things:

http://blogs.windows...indows-8-1.aspx

You can now have different tile sizes

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and use the desktop wallpaper as "metro" background:

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and you'll get the startbutton (not the menu :( ) back.

Win 8.1 will also include the IE11.
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to be honest, those small changes they could have made for RTM
question is was it deliberate or just lazyness
If you want true Windows user experience
try Longhorn builds: 3718, 4029, 4066

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There must be something more to warrant a whole revision number...
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ok, 8.1 Preview is now available.

Does anyone who hated Win8 now likes 8.1? Me not, it is the same like Win8 + a few things which should already be part of Win 8 (boot to desktop). If bigmuscle and thihy get their projetcs to work I may upgrade, if not I'll stay at Win8.
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Read this first completely

[FAQ] Things to Know Before Downloading or Installing Windows 8.1 Preview

1. Windows 8.1 Preview is a testing version not the final version and you might face problems while using the OS.


You should not upgrade Windows 8 or other Windows versions to Windows 8.1 Preview for 2 reasons:

First reason is that if you upgrade your existing Windows version to Windows 8.1 Preview, you'll not be able to uninstall the Preview version in future. You'll need to reinstall previous Windows version using setup or recovery disc.

Second reason is that when Windows 8.1 final version will release and you decide to upgrade Windows 8.1 Preview to final version, you'll not be able to keep your 3rd party software and apps which you installed in the OS. You'll need to reinstall them.


How to Download and Install Windows 8.1 Free Preview? Upgrade or Dual Boot with Windows 8
As an iso or an Update

Since I see it is available I'll have to install and take a look at it.

Edited by maxXPsoft, 28 June 2013 - 08:07 AM.

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"I heard it on the X" (ZZ Top)

It was on the Morning TV news stating "brings back the Start Button" whatever that means.

Edited by submix8c, 28 June 2013 - 09:15 AM.

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Glad that finally there is a seperate topic to talk about Windows 8.1!

I downloaded and installed these versions of W8: W8 DP, W8 CP, W8 RP and finally W8 RTM, which became W8 Pro with Media Center afterwards. They are all ISO files and I installed them new on an empty partition. And with every new version of W8, I had to install quite a few applications again so that I could use Windows in a comfortable way. I also had to go through the settings of each application to choose what options I feel like the most. It took a lot of time to do this and it was the most boring thing to do in my opinion!

I want something different this time, so I've chosen to update the current W8. I don't know if anyone here has the same choice as I have. It would be nice if other people who have already installed or tried W8.1 would come to share their own images of W8.1 as well as their thoughts, likes and dislikes about this new version too.

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Edited by Aloha, 30 June 2013 - 12:07 AM.


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I'm downloading full iso so I may just dual boot it with trusty 7 but you can just install the update from app store. Read the FAQ cause you will have to put back win 8 when full version is released.
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MaxXPsoft,

I already made an image of the current W8 as well as a system recovery USB.

According to the second reason you quoted I understand that I can update W8.1 preview to W8.1 final. I only have to install all the applications again at that time.

Do you know how long we will be able to use this preview version before the final version comes into existence? Hope it's not less than 3 months.

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Merged max's topic with the existing one in the Beta forum. :ph34r:
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Then can you move this topic back to Win 8 forum, Tripredacus? It's a preview version just like the others. DP, CP and RP that we used to talk about in W8 forum.

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Does anyone have any 8.1 wallpaper that they can share??

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Then can you move this topic back to Win 8 forum, Tripredacus? It's a preview version just like the others. DP, CP and RP that we used to talk about in W8 forum.

Agree, hate bouncing all over the place

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Looks like same ones except img0.jpg is now this. Maybe where they get the Blue from
All these are in win 8 themes
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Edited by maxXPsoft, 28 June 2013 - 07:35 PM.

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When the downloading was around 20% complete, I had this error:

I had to uninstall StartIsBack and the UltraUXTheme patcher so that there were no changes in the system files at all. I also unplugged the TV set from my computer. After a reboot, the update started to download again from the scratch! It says 40% complete now. Never thought I can be so patient with W8 this time!

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Edited by Aloha, 01 July 2013 - 01:17 AM.


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You have a BITS (Background downloader of Windows) issue:

C:\Users\André>err 0x8020002e
# for hex 0x8020002e / decimal -2145386450
  BG_E_CONNECTION_CLOSED                                         bitsmsg.h
# 1 matches found for "0x8020002e"

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Andre,
The update from the Store didn't work for me! I had to install W8.1 by the iso file.

The About says I can use this version till Jan 2014, but I'll restore W8 very soon. I am used to Windows with Start Menu and theme Aero 8. And above all, I don't like to see the text of evaluation copy on the desktop anymore.

PS. Perhaps I should forget all about trying any new version of W8. It's not so exciting as it used to be, especially it's when I, for the first time, had W8 DP.

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Edited by Aloha, 01 July 2013 - 01:18 AM.


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The design inconsistencies are still there. You can now disable the two upper charm points, but not the lower ones.
Still same issue if you don't use the default taskbar positioning, only worse: you now have two start buttons with vertical taskbar - one on the taskbar and one overlaying the "show desktop" button. Clicking on network connections on the left opens menu on the right. The volume OSD is also still overlaying the taskbar in a half-assed way.

Basically, it's still "use the default or gtfo". I'm sticking with win7.
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Microsoft partners seriously underwhelmed by Windows 8.1
http://www.channelre..._by_windows_81/



But he warned, "It is a consumer-focused product and so far consumers haven't liked it. Businesses are buying Win8 machines but downgrading it to Windows 7," he said.

"Will Windows 8.1 change the world? My gut feel is that sales will be the same as before. We are not forecasting an uplift," said our distie source.

So distributors are not preparing for a spike in demand from their customers.


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Well, After about five attempts I finally had 8.1 installed!!..Yippy Skippy, anyway I now know why they call it the "Blue" version as it bsod a lot!..Yes its a Beta but really? Been beta testing for years but this has got to be the most unstable $MS beta of all time..DP

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Windows 8.1 - Is a complete mess!

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Windows 8.1 - Is a complete mess!


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