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Classic Shell 4.0

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that's why I don't like it and will NEVER use it.

I don't like it either. I prefer v3.6.7 I don't want to deal with StartScreen or hot corners at all.

You can rest easy that Classic Shell is never ever going to force any design choice on users or remove any currently available option.

:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup

Thank you, Sir.

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The public beta of Classic Shell 4.0 is now available (as 3.9.0): http://www.classicshell.net The stable release will be 4.0.

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New "Windows 7" menu style that replicates the look and feel of the Windows 7 start menu

the programs show in a tree inside the main menu

search results and jump lists show inside the main menu

dedicated shutdown button

the unparalleled customizability you've come to expect from Classic Shell

I LOVE THIS PART, though. :thumbup

Can't wait for the final version.

After installing classicshell start menu on a couple of computers, now a lot of people with brand new laptops with Win8 on it want this on their laptop as well.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

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Thanks. Here's another screenshot showing new Shutdown actions such as "Update and Restart" introduced in Windows 8:

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Another satisfied "customer" today. My friend LOVES classicshell. He just bought a laptop today and came straight to me to "fix" it.

Thank you again. Can't wait for v4.0. :thumbup

If v4.0 will replicate the exact startmenu of Win7 you'll make my day.

:yes:

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Will we able to turn off the unnecessary disk writes for logging and caching (which is turned off in options) to %appdata%\roaming in the final version?

GL

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Logging is enabled only for the beta, RTM will require setting a registry key to enable it for troubleshooting purposes. Caching shouldn't be disabled as it actually improves performance and only happens the 1st time you install it on any PC. Caching is required for 3 features: 1. For a "fast and fluid" experience of loading icons and pre-cached folders 2. Frequently used programs list 3. Highlighting.

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I have a fast SSD for 1. and never had problems with f&f even without Classic Shell (Win7 here), and I always turn off 2. and 3. Also, cache was not necessary with previous releases of Classic Shell.

GL

Logging is enabled only for the beta, RTM will require setting a registry key to enable it for troubleshooting purposes. Caching shouldn't be disabled as it actually improves performance and only happens the 1st time you install it on any PC. Caching is required for 3 features: 1. For a "fast and fluid" experience of loading icons and pre-cached folders 2. Frequently used programs list 3. Highlighting.

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In previous releases, there were responsiveness issues with submenus. So even with an SSD, icons cached will be faster. Plus, frequently used and highlighting features depend on this cache. These 2 features were added to the latest version of Classic Start Menu. Even Windows maintains its own icon cache.

But if you still want to disable frequent writes to the cache, you can make the file read-only and it won’t get saved. Same trick will work for the log file as well. The cache file is not really required. It is just an optimization for fetching some information faster. It is used for icons, link targets, Metro app properties, etc.

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You gave me an idea. I created a file named %appdata%\roaming\ClassicShell and so far it works as I intended (no folder created). :)

GL

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You gave me an idea. I created a file named %appdata%\roaming\ClassicShell and so far it works as I intended (no folder created). :)

GL

So far, this works very well. Please, if you can, make it an option (to not create any files) for us who don't want bloat.

GL

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If there is an an option for that, users can set it without fully understanding what it does or the menu features it disables and then they will complain of slow performance and icons not loading fast enough. This trick works well enough. You can automate it from the cmd line as well. :)

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thanks for version 4 :)

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Thank you, xpclient!
Much of Windows wouldn't be the same without Classic Shell. :)

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Great program!

I modified a skin but I can't find the shadow image, where can I find it?

Btw, I'm using this with Aero Glass for WIndows 8.1 Beta 1 and the reflection effect is not applied on classic shell.

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Congratulations :thumbup and good work!

thanks for version 4 :)

Thank you, xpclient!

Much of Windows wouldn't be the same without Classic Shell. :)

Thanks everyone. :w00t:

Great program!

I modified a skin but I can't find the shadow image, where can I find it?

Btw, I'm using this with Aero Glass for WIndows 8.1 Beta 1 and the reflection effect is not applied on classic shell.

The skin format is described in detail here: http://www.classicshell.net/tutorials/skintutorial.html By 'shadow image' do you mean the mask bitmap? When you open the skin in Resource Hacker, you can expand the bitmap section to see all bitmaps and the Skin section describes which bitmap is used for what.

If you are using Classic Shell along with Aero Glass for Windows 8, just enable the setting "Enable Aero Glass" from the "Menu Look" tab and make sure you are using the 'Windows Aero' skin. You can post additional skin related questions in the Classic Shell forum where other users will also help you with editing the skin. :)

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are you no longer releasing the source code?

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That's right, it's closed source freeware now and is mentioned in the FAQ why: http://www.classicshell.net/faq/#general_oss It was being forked and sold with little to no modification on multiple sites, bundled with crapware, plus the skins which were always copyrighted were being redistributed without permission.

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Congratulations :thumbup and good work!

thanks for version 4 :)

Thank you, xpclient!

Much of Windows wouldn't be the same without Classic Shell. :)

Thanks everyone. :w00t:

Great program!

I modified a skin but I can't find the shadow image, where can I find it?

Btw, I'm using this with Aero Glass for WIndows 8.1 Beta 1 and the reflection effect is not applied on classic shell.

The skin format is described in detail here: http://www.classicshell.net/tutorials/skintutorial.html By 'shadow image' do you mean the mask bitmap? When you open the skin in Resource Hacker, you can expand the bitmap section to see all bitmaps and the Skin section describes which bitmap is used for what.

If you are using Classic Shell along with Aero Glass for Windows 8, just enable the setting "Enable Aero Glass" from the "Menu Look" tab and make sure you are using the 'Windows Aero' skin. You can post additional skin related questions in the Classic Shell forum where other users will also help you with editing the skin. :)

Yes, 'Enable Aero Glass' checkbox is ticked but 'Windows Aero' skin is not completely transparent, only the margins, can't use 'Smoked Glass' skin with aero glass mod ? The blur from DWMGlass is applied but not the reflection effect. And about 'shadow', I'm talking about the shadow behind the start menu.

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That's right, it's closed source freeware now

ah, ok.

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Yes, 'Enable Aero Glass' checkbox is ticked but 'Windows Aero' skin is not completely transparent, only the margins, can't use 'Smoked Glass' skin with aero glass mod ? The blur from DWMGlass is applied but not the reflection effect. And about 'shadow', I'm talking about the shadow behind the start menu.

Are you sure you have Aero Glass for 8.1 installed correctly? Are your title bars transparent? You can use any skin which has Glass support (Smoked Glass, Windows Aero, Full Glass). If Aero Glass for Win8 is correctly installed and the option checked in CSM, then your Start Menu should support transparency. Here's how it looks with the Aero skin:

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By reflection effect, you probably mean the stripes on the glass? How the Glass is rendered (and its effects) is something only the Aero Glass project can control. Classic Shell's option merely turns on support for it in the skins (instead of the Windows 8 like simple transparency). As for the shadow, there is a setting on the "Menu Look" tab called "Enable menu shadow" that's enabled by default.

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--edit--

My mistake, the stripes are visible but less than they are on frames or on taskbar. They are almost invisible.

--edit--

See the pics in the attached archive.

ClassicShell_Stripes.rar

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May I ask how ClassicShell 4 determines if bigmuscle's aero glass is installed?

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