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So I had this machine for awhile now. Of course, newer programs are able to run on this machine, while a 32-bit model.

Think of the machine, being a regular computer, I can even run Windows 9X on it, along with DOS. However it has Vista loaded inside of it. 2Gigs of memory on one stick. 3Gig speed, 100MB or so HD.

The last time I heard a simular sound was when the BiOS, was removed but this sound is much deeper, longer and I just decided to remove the built in speaker. However the
built in "modem" speaker still makes the same sound. It also plays in a sorta timer until it heads into a long annoyying .................................................. Removing the speaker plug makes the sound softer but it is still annoying.

The built in sound ( more like annoying noisey alarm clock ) only plays once I start running a program, or briefly when the computer loads ( to let me know it is still their ) .

I have tried the following. Turning off the internal noise speakers, disabling the "digital sound" which turned off the Windows sound but not the computers built in speaker.

By built in, I am refering to the speaker that only turns on, for most DOS programs that have a built in sound. Some games, use the built in sound to make tunes. Even programs like "Win-ace" uses the bult in speaker to signal when a file is done being compressed or extracted. I believe this is the same built in speaker,

So far the sound is not doing anything else but annoying the living daylights out of me, and anybody else. First it plays at random, then it double, finally it triples and so forth until it is looooooonnnggggggggg annoying noise. Eventually it stops but only after an extremly long time. It is almost like if the sound has been planned on purpose

I think somebody gave the machine a virus, as the sound plays almost identical, everytime I launch a program.

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So if anybody knows, what is it, and how to stop it, please tell me. It is insane, and needs to stop.


What I am hoping for, is to turn off all events to do with the internal modem speaker ( or whatever speaker ). I just do not understand why this thing just keeps going on and on.


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[...] Removing the speaker plug makes the sound softer but it is still annoying. [...]


You unplug the speaker and yet it still makes a sound through it? How is that possible? If you don't otherwise need the internal speaker, then I would think you can just unplug/disconnect/remove the internal speaker and be done with it. It can't make any noise if it's not there. Of am I missing something? And I don't understand your comment about the BIOS. What does that have to do with this? You say that it is the "modem" speaker. Do you use the modem? If not, remove it. If you do, then there should be some way to turn the speaker off. Maybe it would help if you provided motherboard and modem part numbers, maybe with pictures showing which speaker is causing the noise?

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I am talking about the Internal speaker. On most PC towers built an internal speaker is built in, and you can hear it when

You play a DOS game that plays music and their is no other sound devices but the internal speaker.
You have a program like Winace, that takes advantage of the internal speakers ( beeps, blops etc sounds )
You have a modem and when it dails you can hear it make the phone sound to dail, X number.

However in this case the speaker is repeatively playing a loud annoying sound, that gets louder and louder and louder and never stops. This starts no matter what
program I run, So I can assume, it might be a proccess, that is triggered when I run a program.

Imagine any program you have installed, and then eventually a loud noise plays. It beeps like a door bell, over and over again, almost loud as a car horn. Eventually it keeps going and when you stop using the program the sound eventually stops. It does not fade, or is speciall efffects, just the same annoying sound, nonstop, like if somebody was pressing down a key on the worlds worst piano.

I am convinced it is a "Virus" or "Bug" that was launched in the computer from an installation, or bad webbrowsing, however I need to find the process that is causing this, or even the problem itself. I figure it is probably in the registery somewhere?????????

......

ALso by internal speaker, I am not talking about the big physical one. I am talking about the small one that the big one connect to. The big one can also be used to play
Windows music if connected to the right port, but I do not think that is available on the newer boards.

Edited by ROTS, 19 June 2013 - 04:16 PM.


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My point was, that on many systems, if not most, even the internal speaker can be unplugged (usually from an internal header) or turned off, which might help you keep your sanity until you find what is causing the noise through the speaker.

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How about this, where in the registery, or configurations of VIsta could I disable all communication with the built in speakers?????

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It may be possible that the sound is the result of a keyboard buffer overflow. Did you try a different keyboard?
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How about this, where in the registery, or configurations of VIsta could I disable all communication with the built in speakers?????


Sorry, I don't, and never have run Vista so I have no idea.

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@Kel

Reality check. :blink:

You walk down the street and find a baby crying loud.
What do you do?
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  • Gag him before calling 911 or trying to find the cause. :unsure:
  • Behead him. :w00t: :ph34r:
  • Other (please specify)

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Cut him in half with a lightsaber, then go away whistling some song, hands tucked in the pockets, pretending nothing has happened.

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1. I did unattach the speaker, but it is internal, speakers. I can't seem to find it. What does the on board speaker of a computer looks like? On this one, i assume it is that black little thing that sticks up a bit, and looks like a cap?????

I was thinking I could attach the speaker, back and pull one of the wires ( cut the wires ) so I wont I have to hear sound.

2. Again I assume it is a virus, or a setting that was forced change. The sound now plays when certain programs boot. Meaning when the computer starts the sound plays briefly. When I load a program, the sound also plays, in a repeatively until it goes on forever. It is a like a loud scratching annoying sound that somebody programmed on purpose to play after installing whatever it was that was installed.

3. ON one program, the sound starts to play. I assume the program ( any kind of program ) accesses a process and the sound starts to play. Maybe a memory area??? So far the sound plays on game and non-game programs???? When the computer starts up the sound also plays but cuts off real quickly?

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This is what an internal speaker looks like:
http://www.custom-bu...motherboard.jpg

Older PCs had an actual speaker inside but it has been quite some time since I've seen one of those.
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You are NOT being clear! First post

This starts no matter what program I run

And your last post

2. Again I assume it is a virus, or a setting that was forced change. The sound now plays when certain programs boot. Meaning when the computer starts the sound plays briefly. When I load a program, the sound also plays, in a repeatively until it goes on forever. It is a like a loud scratching annoying sound that somebody programmed on purpose to play after installing whatever it was that was installed.

3. ON one program, the sound starts to play. I assume the program ( any kind of program ) accesses a process and the sound starts to play. Maybe a memory area??? So far the sound plays on game and non-game programs???? When the computer starts up the sound also plays but cuts off real quickly?

At WHAT POINT "when the computer starts"? BEFORE Windows (during PC startup)? Have you checked for an overheated CPU? SOME BIOS will beep if it overheats -OR-may cause shutdown and/or restart. SOME Mobo Monitor Software can be set to "beep" at a certain temperature. It will ALWAYS (at least mine do) beep at least ONCE when you first turn it on (BEFORE windows).

Clarify, please. It makes no sense.

edit - "BEEP.SYS" is the "beeper" program. Related -
http://forums.techgu...eaker-beep.html
http://www.onlinecom...re/speaker.html
Also a program called "BEEP.EXE" (a "utility") floating around.
Google
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Edited by submix8c, 27 June 2013 - 10:29 AM.

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It will ALWAYS (at least mine do) beep at least ONCE when you first turn it on (BEFORE windows)

This is rather normal for bios to beep once to alert of post processing. If it does not then you may know of an issue and where to look. Multiple beeps can also tell you where to look. You may already know this but I thought It was worth mentioning.

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The symptoms seem like an issue with the sound device as beeping windows default sounds is what a PC does when no sound device is installed. This could be the sound device or perhaps the driver
for the device is of concern. If a sound card exists then reseating the sound card may help. A case that is too flexible can allow slotted cards to move and thus cause issues and can be a problem.

What is the main board make and model? What is the sound device if it is a card? What is the sound driver if not an integrated part of the main board driver?

If this is a main board with a bios not suitable for Windows Vista then that maybe the issue. Flashing the bios to a newer version may help if a newer version exists.

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@MHz - yes, I know that (fairly hardware competent). the OP is not being clear (language barrier). And this is what they stated

I have tried the following. Turning off the internal noise speakers, disabling the "digital sound" which turned off the Windows sound but not the computers built in speaker.

1. I did unattach the speaker, but it is internal, speakers.

thus "implying" the Sound Card part "functions" (but maybe not?) and the Speakers were "unplugged" thus indicating where the "noise" was coming from.

Again, unclear and insufficient information.

Questions to OP -
1 - DOES your Normal External Speakers work (implying the Sound Drivers are installed and functional)
2 - If so, do they work CORRECTLY (you can play for example Music)
3 - If #1 and #2 are TRUE and the "noise" still occurs AND
3a - You unplug the Normal External Speakers AND
3b - You STILL have the "noise" then SOMETHING is "odd"

Searching the Forum I see NO SPECS on ANY of your Computers! I ONLY found THIS

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I have three mini-computers. One is newer. The other two are late 1990's ME/98/XP models.

DUDE! Are you SERIOUS? Give Specifications of the EXACT computer you have the problem with and CLARIFY or we CAN'T help you!

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OT :ph34r: , but as always not much ;):
http://blogs.msdn.co...-windows-7.aspx
And (in case of need), thanks to the "enhancements" above detailed:
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FREE: BEEPx (SPKRFIX)
This little VDD driver fixes a problem with the Windows 7 NTVDM where the PC Speaker output is not wrapped correctly. This may be due to the fact that the functionality of the BEEP.SYS System driver was moved to the Usermode Sound Agent. For further information, see the blog of Larry Osterman. This driver tries to fix the problem by hooking the NTVDM-Function resposible for the Beep (LazyBeep) and replace it with our own implementation that has various options to fix the Problem.

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Problem sloved. The BIOS is a foxxcon bios, that matches the board. Deep within
the settings, is an alert feature to tell people when something goes wrong. In this case
you hear a loud annoying sound. Running heavy stuff, like 3d games, and harddrive
software or even chkdsk, makes the CpU and card works harder, and thus more heat???

When it hits 75, in degrees it starts to make the sound, current the computer stays at
66, and using my air condition it goes to 55. Then when it reaches near 80 the computer
tells the OS ( if it can ) to shutdown. That is exactly what occurs. The same with USB
stealing too much power.

So all this time I just had to go into the BioS and go to "PC health" and shut off the safeties.
Even if I set it to the highest degrees it still makes the sound. Just by loading a flash page it goes off
like crazy.

So the solution was a hardware/software solution. Thank you for those who had concern.

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So all this time I just had to go into the BioS and go to "PC health" and shut off the safeties.
Even if I set it to the highest degrees it still makes the sound. Just by loading a flash page it goes off
like crazy.

No. :no:

All this time you should have provided better cooling to the system components. :realmad:

 

The "alarm" is there for a reason, and it is set to "75" for a reason :ph34r: , and unless it is triggered by a defect at a much lower temperature, it should stay ON and the components should be kept cooler than the set threshold.

 

The whole concept of safeties is that they should NEVER be removed/turned off, and when an alarm starts bugging you, you should remove the cause of the alarm, and not switch the alarm off, if not temporarily while trouble shooting (or if you really know where your towel is).

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Edited by jaclaz, 16 July 2013 - 04:26 AM.


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It is a -100 bucks computer, when it dies, I will just get another one. The one I had before that, caught a fire, when I had three 250 + PSU computers hooked through one plug including the air conditioners. I know I need to get a correct cooling system but after dealing with the 1984 thought police, making a super hyper computer seems worthless nowadays. The last time I was looking into a water cooling, or miniture air condition cooling, that I could sit inside the machine itself, but I need to have the corrrect PSU, and etc settings. Or I might get a mini-air conditioner for -500 bucks, which looks like a littel R2D2 unit that you can have in the living room but it runs on pre-charged batteries. I use this computer for work basically, not for happy time.

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Maybe you can install a cooling fan? (Or maybe an existing fan isn't working properly and needs replacing.)

 

Assuming that what you need is an additional fan (and not just a replacement fan), you could possibly either install it internally to blow on the part that gets the hottest (the CPU, probably) or you could leave the computer case open and blow a regular household fan into it. (I did that several months ago with one PC where the graphics card's built-in fan wasn't doing the job, and the problem hasn't come back.)

 

Also, if it's related to the CPU, it could be that the thermal paste is insufficient or needs changing. In my view, though, this involves "major surgery" and that has to be taken into account when deciding what to do. (OTOH, if it's just a $100 machine you might decide to change the thermal paste as practice.) I would start with the fan first and see if that takes care of the issue. They're not expensive.

 

Good luck with the problem.

 

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Edited by JorgeA, 13 September 2013 - 11:27 PM.





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