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Aero Glass for Win8.1 RTM RC3

UNSTABLE TESTING VERSION ONLY

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Also check that it does not have the same bug as Win8-RP-like atlas for Win8 - when windows is fully blurred, it leaves half of window fully opaque.


Aero Glass for Win8.x --> http://www.glass8.eu


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Can you suggest how to test that?  I do see transparency at the bottom of things like the Picture Viewer and Tortoise SVN.  Or is that not what you mean?

 

FullyBlurred.png

 

Edit:  Now on looking again I do see something wrong with the bottom right edge of the Tortoise window.  Let me see what I can do about that.

 

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Edited by NoelC, 16 September 2013 - 05:17 PM.


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I don't see a problem in the graphic file.  Can you shed more light on what might be going on there, BigMuscle?

 

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Hancoque, this one paints those parts correctly; maybe you can compare and try to see what's gone wrong.

I don't think it can be fixed in the image. Look at the screenshot I made with a rainbow debug overlay (ranging from red on the left to purple on the right in 30° hue increments). In the themeatlas.png it covers an area of 10x8 pixels but only the inner 8x8 pixels are actually used, which is why the red and purple columns aren't visible. You'll notice that the light blue column (hue 210°) is repeated three times by the theme. The problem is that the release preview theme has a two pixels border, a dark outer border with a light inner border. The RTM theme uses a one pixel border while the adjacent inner part is used for filling the window. The borders of normal windows are thin enough that no repetition of the light blue column occurs but the command shell windows show the anomaly of having thicker borders, thus causing the inner border column to be repeated.

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I did notice the borders seemed a little different size.

 

That smells like Microsoft futzing around with the theme implementation to try to frustrate 3rd party developers who are trying to return some style to the desktop, not to mention make it uglier for users.  :(

 

The basic flawed assumption in all this is that people want Windows 8, presumably for all the wonderful great things in the App Store.  Microsoft is falling on its face by actively making parts of its system less than perfect in order to try to herd Windows users in a direction that makes Microsoft more money.

 

-Noel



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Hancoque, this one paints those parts correctly; maybe you can compare and try to see what's gone wrong.

I don't think it can be fixed in the image. Look at the screenshot I made with a rainbow debug overlay (ranging from red on the left to purple on the right in 30° hue increments). In the themeatlas.png it covers an area of 10x8 pixels but only the inner 8x8 pixels are actually used, which is why the red and purple columns aren't visible. You'll notice that the light blue column (hue 210°) is repeated three times by the theme. The problem is that the release preview theme has a two pixels border, a dark outer border with a light inner border. The RTM theme uses a one pixel border while the adjacent inner part is used for filling the window. The borders of normal windows are thin enough that no repetition of the light blue column occurs but the command shell windows show the anomaly of having thicker borders, thus causing the inner border column to be repeated.

 

There is a problem with the System Metrics on Windows 8 and 8.1, I think since MS removed the advanced appearance settings they must have broken it, the system metrics now do not change when a different theme is selected with different Metrics, they are no longer read from the msstyles or from the values in the .theme file, there is one way to force them to update though and that is with the use of Windows Style Builder, this is for creating msstyles themes and when testing a new theme the new metrics are written to the registry and when you stop testing the metrics from the previous theme are written to the registry, doing this fixed the problems with the frames and they displayed correctly.

 

Here are all the system metrics, you can edit the registry yourself or just use the reg file provided, a log off is required to see the changes.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
"SmCaptionWidth"="-330"
"BorderWidth"="-15"
"SmCaptionHeight"="-330"
"CaptionWidth"="-330"
"IconTitleWrap"="1"
"ScrollHeight"="-255"
"CaptionHeight"="-330"
"CaptionFont"=hex:f1,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,00,\
  00,00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,00,\
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"ScrollWidth"="-255"
"MenuWidth"="-285"
"SmCaptionFont"=hex:f1,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,\
  00,00,00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,\
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"MenuFont"=hex:f4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,00,00,\
  00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,00,00,\
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  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"StatusFont"=hex:f4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,00,\
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"MenuHeight"="-285"
"MessageFont"=hex:f4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,90,01,00,00,\
  00,00,00,01,00,00,05,00,53,00,65,00,67,00,6f,00,65,00,20,00,55,00,49,00,00,\
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  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"Shell Icon Size"="32"
"PaddedBorderWidth"="-60"
"AppliedDPI"=dword:00000060
"IconSpacing"="-1125"
"IconVerticalSpacing"="-1125"
"MinAnimate"="1"

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I did notice the borders seemed a little different size.

 

That smells like Microsoft futzing around with the theme implementation to try to frustrate 3rd party developers who are trying to return some style to the desktop, not to mention make it uglier for users.  :(

 

The basic flawed assumption in all this is that people want Windows 8, presumably for all the wonderful great things in the App Store.  Microsoft is falling on its face by actively making parts of its system less than perfect in order to try to herd Windows users in a direction that makes Microsoft more money.

 

-Noel

People keep aying things like that, but Microsoft doesn't go and add stuff just to p*** off 3rd party developers and try to disable circumventing of third party themes. What would they gain? The reason is almost certainly just a theming bug that isn't caught because Microsoft only ships a single theme. Since they do not officially support third party theme modding, they likely don't have any kind of tests that would ensure things like that work.
 More importantly, you have no proof to back up your claim, so why form these irrational justifications just so someone passing by on the forum sees it and then spreads it as a rumor, what does that solve?



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Oh come on.  Like you understand what Microsoft does and doesn't do.  Some of us have friends on the inside...

 

Microsoft didn't just "accidentally" remove Aero.  They're actively removing things that people want.  Who does that serve?  How does that help?  Do you actually buy their BS that window effects cost battery life?  Give me a break.  There have been non-DWM themes for a long time that could have been used.

 

No, why are we here, in this thread?  Because we want something Microsoft won't give us any more.  They're obviously turning away from the desktop (all meanings), by taking away things like Aero, Windows Backup and any number of other things that computer users use and need.

 

The management at Microsoft are manipulative bastards who are actively trying to steer us away from our love of the desktop, in order that they may make more money.  Sooner or later they will win.  There are only a handful of brilliant and energetic persons on the planet capable of making the Windows 8 desktop better to use.  One day they'll grow tired of doing so.

 

-Noel



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AERO GLASS for Win8.1 Alpha 2

 

Let's have a look at alpha 2 of Aero Glass for Win8.1. This is still for preview only, so no internal optimizations (just a code mess to make it work). This version includes several changes:

 

* fix (or rather workaround) for glass safety zone on windows with extended frame (ribbon etc.)

* included NoelC's glow.bmp

* fix for invalidly blurred pixels at screen edges

* fix for glass being on incorrect places (e.g. background of the desktop when explorer is not running)

 

Because Win8.1 uses Direct2D for desktop rendering, the blurring algorithm works a bit different than Direct3D in Win8. This makes ColorizationBlurBalance settings unuseful and amount of color transparency is taken directly from alpha channel specified in ColorizationColor (this value is in form 0xAARRGGBB where AA represents two digits of alpha value 00 [fully transparent] - FF [fully opaque]). This is still controlled via intensity slider in control panel but ColorizationBlurBalance is completely ignored now (maybe we could add it some special function later).

 

Glass reflection has been ported to this version and its intensity can be controlled via common DWORD settings ColorizationGlassReflectionIntensity where value is 0 - 100.

 

I also added temporary function which makes glass work correctly even for all already opened windows. This is very low level thing which will be removed in the final version and it can be even broken by any Windows updates (and there is no other solution for it). This version does not include hardcoded DWM function patterns and thus it needs public symbols to be present - symbols are downloaded automatically from MS server for donators (i.e. if license.key is present).

 

Maybe I fixed/modified more but I don't remember everything. And yes, there is still present one glitch when window edge is behind the frame (and needs to be blurred) and you slowly move another window over the frame - do no report it, I'm aware of this and it is currently not easy to fix.

 

http://glass8.berlios.de/win81.html

 

win81_alpha2.png

 

Remember! It's still only alpha intended for preview and not for regular usage!


Edited by bigmuscle, 23 September 2013 - 04:46 AM.

Aero Glass for Win8.x --> http://www.glass8.eu

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Tested AERO GLASS for Win8.1 Alpha 2 and it is useless without public symbols Thanks for the update, but i will skip this one, Thanks again ace2. :thumbup



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Sorry mate, doesn't work at all for me, tells me the shell32.dll and themecpl.dll are not compatible and asks me if I want to retry downloading the symbols but it's still no good, just keeps on trying and restarting DWM till it logs off again and starts all over again, uninstalled it now :(

And yes I do have a license and it did download the symbols but they just don't work.

Edited by MrGRiM, 20 September 2013 - 08:12 AM.


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Looks nice, BigMuscle.  Inactive windows are a good bit "glassier" looking than with the previous version.  I like that.  All in all it looks quite polished.  Good job!

 

Win81AGA2.png

 

I haven't experimented with ColorizationGlassReflectionIntensity yet.

 

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ColorizationGlassReflectionIntensity works great too, and is nicely variable per the setting.  I ended up settling on 75 (decimal), though even at 100 it's not overwhelming.  It actually helps a bit with the visibility of the titles in the active Explorer or Wordpad window (i.e., those with ribbons), as long as the background isn't really dark.  And the background windows stay nice and transparent.

 

ColorizationhelpsRibbonTitleReadability.

 

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Edited by NoelC, 20 September 2013 - 08:41 AM.


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Sorry mate, doesn't work at all for me, tells me the shell32.dll and themecpl.dll are not compatible and asks me if I want to retry downloading the symbols but it's still no good, just keeps on trying and restarting DWM till it logs off again and starts all over again, uninstalled it now :(

And yes I do have a license and it did download the symbols but they just don't work.

a) symbols downloading does not work for explorer stuff (shell32/themecpl)

B) Win8.1 version does not install explorer stuff, so you installed anything but not "Aero Glass for Win8.1"


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Sorry mate, doesn't work at all for me, tells me the shell32.dll and themecpl.dll are not compatible and asks me if I want to retry downloading the symbols but it's still no good, just keeps on trying and restarting DWM till it logs off again and starts all over again, uninstalled it now :(

And yes I do have a license and it did download the symbols but they just don't work.

a) symbols downloading does not work for explorer stuff (shell32/themecpl)
B) Win8.1 version does not install explorer stuff, so you installed anything but not "Aero Glass for Win8.1"

Well I have no idea what your trying to tell me, I know that symbols is to make dwm work I was just letting you know the error messages I kept getting, there were a couple of others as well, but at the end of the day the first alpha runs great so I would expect the 2nd alpha to run even better with the required symbols, I just don't see why the this version would have problems with anything I installed, not even sure if that's what your implying though, are you trying to say that there is nothing wrong with this version and it's my setup that's the problem?

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I'm simply saying that Aero Glass for Win8.1 is not dependent on shell32/themecpl so if you are getting error about these libraries you have not installed Aero Glass for Win8.1 but something different.


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I'm simply saying that Aero Glass for Win8.1 is not dependent on shell32/themecpl so if you are getting error about these libraries you have not installed Aero Glass for Win8.1 but something different.


Edit: I am an id***, sorry BM, you are right I installed the wrong one, I made it into a installer and I had it in the same folder as 1.2 and installed that one by mistake, sorry for wasting your time.

Edited by MrGRiM, 20 September 2013 - 11:01 AM.


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I have problems using alpha 2. At first launch the title bar text is messed up. The text has a black background. After some time an error message pops up:

Your DWM is incompatible with Aero Glass!
See debug log for more details.
 
Do you want to retry symbols downloading?

 
This is the debug log:
[0x224] DBGHELP: [0x224] Uninstalling...[0x11E4] License file loaded[0x11E4] Machine ID: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX[0x11E4] License code: 0[0x11E4] Hook (api-ms-win-core-registry-l1-1-0.dll!RegQueryValueExW from dwm.exe) installed[0x11E4] Hook (USER32.dll!CreateWindowExW from dwm.exe) installed[0x11E4] Hook (GDI32.dll!CreateRoundRectRgn from udwm.dll) installed[0x11E4] Hook (USER32.dll!DrawTextW from udwm.dll) installed[0x11E4] Hook (GDI32.dll!CreateBitmap from udwm.dll) installed[0x11E4] Delayed hook (UxTheme.dll!GetThemeStream from udwm.dll) installed[0x11E4] Aero Glass for Win8.1 Alpha 2 correctly loaded.[0x218] Propagating user logon successful.[0x470] DBGHELP: Symbol Search Path: .;SRV*D:\AeroGlass\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols[0x470] CTopLevelWindow::UpdateOcclusionHints hooked successfuly[0x470] CGlassColorizationParameters::AdjustWindowColorization failed (0).[0x470] DBGHELP: .\uDWM.pdb - file not found[0x470] DBGHELP: .\dll\uDWM.pdb - file not found[0x470] DBGHELP: .\symbols\dll\uDWM.pdb - file not found[0x470] DBGHELP: uDWM.pdb - file not found[0x470] DBGHELP: udwm - no symbols loaded[0x470] Failed to load symbol module udwm.dll: 0[0x470] CDrawingContext::DrawGlass failed (0).[0x470] CDrawingContext::DrawGlass failed (0).[0x470] DBGHELP: .\dwmcore.pdb - file not found[0x470] DBGHELP: .\dll\dwmcore.pdb - file not found[0x470] DBGHELP: .\symbols\dll\dwmcore.pdb - file not found[0x470] DBGHELP: dwmcore.pdb - file not found[0x470] DBGHELP: dwmcore - export symbols[0x470] Failed to load symbol module dwmcore.dll: 0
If I choose to retry, nothing changes, but if I cancel, the title bar text appears normal. Another problem is that transparency isn't working at all.
 

EDIT
 
I have found the cause of the problems. I didn't know that I have to use the other files from the release for Windows 8.0 as it wasn't necessary in alpha 1.
 
Now I have another question: When I use the colour intensity slider, the values can only be between 1A (26) and D9 (217). Is it possible to use these values instead of 00 and FF to define full transparency and full opacity? That would make it easier to use, as it's currently impossible to use full opacity with the slider. Also, is it possible to disable transparency of inactive windows when foreground windows are fully opaque? Personally I would prefer it if the transparency of inactive windows is somehow tied to the transparency of foreground windows, unless explicitly overwritten in the registry.


Edited by Yzöwl, 20 September 2013 - 10:50 PM.
consecutive posts merged


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Hancoque: ah, my mistake - I forgot that dbghelp.dll and symsrv.dll needs to be present in the folder.

 

The range of intensity slider is controlled by control panel itself and not by DWM. I don't plan to modify the control panel in Win8.1.


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The range of intensity slider is controlled by control panel itself and not by DWM. I don't plan to modify the control panel in Win8.1.

Yes, but the slider gives you values between 26 and 217 and you use values between 0 and 255. So, wouldn't it be possible for you to use the value range provided by the slider for minimum and maximum opacity? Right now I have to use the registry or modify the .theme file to set the theme to full opacity. In the previous version I could simply move the slider fully to the right to achieve full opacity. Actually, I had quite some trouble getting the same visual result as with alpha 1. I had to use a combination of ColorizationBlurBalanceInactive, ColorizationColorBalanceInactive and ColorizationColorInactive to make the theme look like with apha 1 (or vanilla Windows 8 - if no glow, transparency and theme file is used). In alpha 1 I didn't even have to create those registry keys for it too look like the default Windows 8 behaviour (fully opaque light grey window borders).

 

This was my journey to get back the look of alpha 1:

 

ag-a2-1.jpg

First, I noticed that using the slider, full opacity wasn't possible.

 

ag-a2-2.jpg

After modifying the opacity value by hand, it worked (ColorizationColor=FF...).

 

ag-a2-3.jpg

But then I noticed that inactive windows were still transparent.

 

ag-a2-4.jpg

So I changed the inactive window opacity (ColorizationBlurBalanceInactive=100). But then it was too dark.

 

ag-a2-5.jpg

So I tried to change the color (ColorizationColorInactive=FFEBEBEB). But it was still too dark.

 

ag-a2-6.jpg

Finally I also changed the color intensity (ColorizationColorBalanceInactive=100).

 

I would call that quite tedious to simply get back the default Windows 8 behaviour. ;)

 

Ideally it would work this way (for me at least): If the slider is set fully to the right, there would be no difference to the original theme, except the possibility to use text glow and another window theme file. Moving the slider to the left would make both active an inactive windows more transparent (either equally or with a certain formula that makes the inactive window more transparent than the active window - with both being fully opaque at the rightmost slider setting).


Edited by Hancoque, 21 September 2013 - 09:27 AM.


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... the slider gives you values between 26 and 217

 

Wow, I didn't notice that before.  We are left to wonder why Microsoft would put effort into making such a change.  More of their gradual "weaning" away from allowing users to customize the UI at all?

 

When does that ridiculousness end?  When there's one and only one UI look and feel, I guess.  Definitely goes against everything BigMuscle is doing.

 

-Noel



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Noel, that was already the case in Windows 7, if I remember correctly.



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The slider has been generating alpha value from 26 to 217 since Win7 and it has not been changed at all. Explorer process generates ColorBalance, AfterGlowBalance and BlurBalance from this alpha value and the computation depends whether transparency is enabled or not. Win8 generates values for full opacity only. My Aero Glass for Win8 changes the algorithm so it generates for transparency only. However, for several reasons, I do not want to modify this algorithm in Win8.1 (so it generates values for opacity only) and I use alpha value directly. I compared to Win7 and the slider does not set full transparency/opacity either - and I think it should be that way (if someone wants full transparency I don't see the reason to install AeroGlass).

 

The only problem I see that we must respect the theme settings - ColorBalance and BlurBalance for inactive windows is 20% (or whatever the theme set) of active values. If you set ColorBalanceInactive or BlurBalanceInactive then it won't respect the theme settings but will take your values directly.


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David13

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Hi everyone, this is my first post.
First of all, a big thank to bigmuscle who is fixing Microsoft bul***** with this very nice piece of software. (I made a little donation)

Ok now the noob questions ....

I used Alpha 1 with no prob at all

Now i installed Alpha 2, and here comes the noob questions :-)

1 - after a first few error msgs i found out i had to copy dbghelp.dll, symsrv.dll, symsrv.yes
what's the meaning of that symsrv file ? what's the dif between 0 and 1 Inside ?

2 - should I add that reg file to my registry ?  swatches_hkcu.reg

3 - The blur is gone , it was there with Alpha 1, but it's gone with Alpha 2. I can make the Windows more or less transparent with the slider in Personnalize -> Color -> Color intensity, but no more blur ...
I tried to add a few settings in my registry wich looks like that at this moment:
Blur Deviation 30

ColorizationBlurBalance 50

ColorizationBlurBalanceInactive 50

ColorizationGlassReflectionIntensity 50

RoundRectRadius 12

 

Is there something wrong ?

4 - You talk about a slider in control panel , you refer to the one i just talked about in question 3 ?  Personnalize -> Color -> Color intensity ?

 

5 - Theme file, which one should I use to made my Windows look as much as possible to Seven ?
"Windows 8 6.2.9200 defult with glow effect around Windows titles" ( Win8rtm_glow.png) ?
 

Thanks in advance for enlightening me ;-)

 


Edited by David13, 21 September 2013 - 01:42 PM.


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bigmuscle: I see. I forgot that transparency checkbox in Windows 7 and that you have to uncheck it to achieve full opacity.






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