jassenna Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Is there a way to retrieve a saved password used by an Internetconnection, short of tapping the phone line ?Assume the user has admin rights in that machine.O/S: Win 7 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Is there a way to retrieve a saved password used by an Internetconnection, short of tapping the phone line ?Assume the user has admin rights in that machine.O/S: Win 7 homeYes / No http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/questions-with-yes-or-no-answers.htmlNow , if you would be so kind as to provide the "standard litany":http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/problem-report-standard-litany.htmlThis might help in giving you an actually useful/appropriate answer (as opposed to "assuming" and then risking to wait time in providing you with unuseful advice).What do you mean by "internet connection"?There are several possibilities about passwords "connected" to "internet usage".How do you know that the password is saved?Why are you talking of the phone line? Is it a Dial up connection to the internet?jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlotteTheHarlot Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I suspect that he means passwords used on websites and forums through a browser. In this case it depends. Using several Nirsoft utilities, if they were used in Internet Explorer they will be easy to get. Firefox and Chrome are a little less easy. Opera even less so.I'll leave it to him to study Nirsoft security tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I suspect that he means passwords used on websites and forums through a browser. In this case it depends. Using several Nirsoft utilities, if they were used in Internet Explorer they will be easy to get. Firefox and Chrome are a little less easy. Opera even less so.I'll leave it to him to study Nirsoft security tools.Hmmm.Try googling for "Internet Password Retrieval" (the title of this thread) Strangely enough FIRST result is http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/network_password_recovery.html jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Is there a way to retrieve a saved password used by an Internetconnection, short of tapping the phone line ?Assume the user has admin rights in that machine.only by keyloggeror if they are cached, as mentioned above one of nirsoft util's Edited August 2, 2013 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jassenna Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share Posted August 3, 2013 Clarifying my question: It is a DSL connection, computer to modem to phone line. There is not a phone number to dial, but it is neither permanently on. On the control panel, it is identified as a wideband connection, WAN miniport (PPPoE). On the desktop there is a connection icon, that opens a window with "connect", "cancel" and "properties" options, plus username and passwword text fields. The password field appears filled with fat dots and there is also a checked checkbox named "remember password". I want to retrieve this password. All this happens without any browser being active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jassenna Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share Posted August 3, 2013 Some more info; I tried nirsoft´s utilities. bulletspasswords did not work in this case, but dialuppass did. Thank you for the tip. Anyway, I would like to dig deeper. Any of these programs must look for the the saved password in some file or other. Any idea about the names of such files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlotteTheHarlot Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Some more info; I tried nirsoft´s utilities. bulletspasswords did not work in this case, but dialuppass did. Thank you for the tip. Anyway, I would like to dig deeper. Any of these programs must look for the the saved password in some file or other. Any idea about the names of such files? Most passwords are stashed in the registry in a variety of ways. Most Nirsoft utilities take stuff out of the registry and make it presentable to the end user. There are exceptions though. I can't remember in this particular case but they can use separate files ( I think Outlook ). The help file for each of his utilities typically explains where the information comes from ( and he usually has command line switches allowing you to change it to other customized locations ). If not, you can just Google that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 There is a "flaw" in the implementation of some Windows dialogs (of the kind that replace actual characters with "bullets", "dots" or "asterisks"), dialup dialog is one of them, the actual plain text password is only hidden, and can be "reverted" by simple programs (about that specific kind of password there are tens similar utilities around).Surely the password is stored *somewhere*, it may be "safe storage" (and there is a nirsoft thingy for that too) or somewhere else, cannot say.Also consider that more often than not an "average" user will re-use a password for more than a single specific access/dialog/use.This means that - example- if the password you found was "mickeymouse", if other tools find "a" password "mickeymouse" (or you find it by direct disk carving, etc.) that string may be connected to that dialog or "belong" to something else.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buyerninety Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) "Is there a way to retrieve a saved password used by an Internetconnection, short of tapping the phone line?"..."It is a DSL connection"...It is unclear whether you are viewing the username and password for yourDSL MODEM or the username & password for your INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER(ISP).You may not be aware that (assuming here that your physical connections areComputer-TO-Modem/Router-TO-Wall Connection) the DSL Modem itself can oftenbe 'talked to' by your computer for the purpose of viewing/changing modem settings(one such setting is the user address and connection password for your ISP, whichwhen set in your modem's memory, may AUTOMATICALLY connect you to yourISP[& hence, Internet] when you communicate out via your Modem.) The DSL Modemmay require you to 'log-in' to it to input such settings, only upon INITIAL SETUP of it.Incidently, this is why you may not need to 'sign-in' to your ISP every time you use theinternet connection; the modem may do it automatically for you.(This is separate, and has nothing to do with, other 'log-in's, such as log-ins to websitesor email providers that you use.)Refering to the DSL Modem Wiki;"Many routers provide an internal web page to the local network for deviceconfiguration and status reporting." You may also care to refer to the PPoE Wiki.You did not state maker/model of your DSL Modem/Router - here is an exampleof a webpage describing log-in procedure to a DSL Modem/Router.http://support.iprimus.com.au/index.php?Itemid=120&id=196&option=com_content&task=viewKindly refer to the manual for the maker/model of your own DSL Modem/Routerfor its equivalent procedure. Incidently, it is quite possible that the'ISP password' may only be stored in the Modem's memory, and is nowherefound in any file on your computer (nor catcheable by any keylogger, nowto be attached). Edited August 4, 2013 by buyerninety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 buyerninety ,do read the thread.The OP ALREADY FOUND what he was looking for :Some more info;I tried nirsoft´s utilities.bulletspasswords did not work in this case,but dialuppass did. Thank you for the tip.And shifted the question to:Anyway, I would like to dig deeper. Any ofthese programs must look for the the savedpassword in some file or other. Any ideaabout the names of such files?jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buyerninety Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 jaclaz;Do read and understand the question by jassenna."Anyway, I would like to dig deeper. Any of these programs must look for the savedpassword in some file or other. Any idea about the names of such files?"He is enquiring now about any "saved password" generally, and any location of suchpassword 'in some file OR OTHER'. My reply draws to his attention that should he lookfor an ISP PASSWORD, he may NOT be able to find it within such a file in his computer -but rather within the stored memory in his DSL modem/router.ALSO he DID NOT state which "password used by an Internet connection" he found, sowhy should you take the view that my post is automatically invalid? You said also;"Surely the password is stored *somewhere*"... "somewhere else, cannot say." Well,I can and did say an example of where a "password used by an Internet connection" iskept, (if you couldn't), so there is no reason to you to attack me for doing so.Also you say, "The OP ALREADY FOUND what he was looking for" - so what!! AS YOUTHEN ACKNOWLEDGE the OP has 'shifted the question', (He wants to dig deeper!) soyour statement "The OP ALREADY FOUND what he was looking for" has no relevance -unless your intention is to deliberately annoy._ALTHOUGH I make it a hard and fast rule to only post when my post INCLUDES informationrelevant to the THREAD TOPIC, (unlike yours above) I'll make an exception in THIS post -because you TOO OFTEN descend into nonrelevant 'carping' and 'borderline sniping' aboutother posters contributions (- and I am aware of one long time project-maintaining Memberwho has started posting at another Board because of just such behaviour as yours - how doI know this? BECAUSE HE CITED YOUR NAME SPECIFICALLY).Understand, we are all interested in relevant information you have to share, because youoften know 'dove il diavolo tiene la coda', -BUT please-, 'ridurre il piagnistei irrilevante,perché il risultato è solo un }diavolo per capello{!!'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 ALSO he DID NOT state which "password used by an Internet connection" he found, sowhy should you take the view that my post is automatically invalid?But he did describe where the password was:Clarifying my question:It is a DSL connection, computer to modem to phone line.There is not a phone number to dial, but it is neitherpermanently on.On the control panel, it is identified as a wideband connection,WAN miniport (PPPoE).On the desktop there is a connection icon, that opens a windowwith "connect", "cancel" and "properties" options, plus usernameand passwword text fields. The password field appears filledwith fat dots and there is also a checked checkbox named"remember password".I want to retrieve this password.All this happens without any browser being active.And he also reported how the Nirsoft tool "dialuppass" did reveal the password.Hence an educated guess would have been that it was a "dial up password dialog" or "connection dialog".A quick check on the page of the tool used successfully would have revealed:http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/dialupass2.htmlDescriptionWhen you use the "Dial-Up Networking" module for connecting to the internet or to other networks, the operating system give you the option to store the password and use it when it needed. Although the password is constantly stored in your computer, the operating system doesn't allow you to watch it. if you forget your password and you want to extract it from your computer, you can use the Dialupass utility for viewing the password.This utility enumerates all Dial-Up entries on your computer and reveals their logon details: User Name, Password and Domain.it works perfectly in the following operating systems: Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows NT, Windows 2000, and Windows XP. In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, the Dialupass utility can reveal the Dial-Up passwords only if you are logged on with administrator privileges.I do trust that piece of info, particularly since it is coming from someone that wrote a tool that can (and actually did in the specific case) reveal the password.You said also;"Surely the password is stored *somewhere*"... "somewhere else, cannot say."My bad I should have specified... but surely it is on the computer's hard disk, possibly in the Registry or in another system file or system settings file, I can exclude that it is saved on the DSL modem, in the sense that while it is very possible that it is saved additionally on the DSL modem internal memory (from which it may be retrieved by the DSL modem firmware to authenticate the access) there is no way on earth that the systems connects to it to retrieve the password.It seemed to me like your otherwise interesting post might unwantingly induce the OP to go on a "wild goose chase", that password (besides being possibly also on the DSL modem) is definitely on the PC's hard disk (*somewhere*), and the OP expressed the wish to look for it there.Sorry for the misunderstanding. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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