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Jayce

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Hello,

 

I just installed back Windows 8 and got a boot speed problem, i have found other topics about that, and ran Performance Analyzer.

 

I noticed a very very long time in Pre session, but I don't know where to find more informations, maybe one of you guys can look at my files and tell me where is the problem ?

 

Here are the url to the files : 

 

- XML summary : http://online-legion...ummary_boot.zip

- Full etl file ziped : http://online-legion...ERS POWER_1.zip

 

(full ETL file is still uploading, and will finish in about 5 minutes)

 

Thanks in advance for your time and help,

 

Best regards,

 

Jayce




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PreSMSS is slow (120s):

+<interval endTime="122244" startTime="0" name="PreSMSS" duration="122244">

I can see that the kernel uses a lot of CPU during this time. You need to run this command:

xbootmgr -trace boot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER -stackwalk profile -resultPath C:\TEMP

i need the stackwalk data to see what the kernel does.


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Hello,

 

Thanks a bunch for looking into this, that boot time makes me mad :P

 

I ran the second trace, here is the url to the file : http://online-legion..._22_09_2013.zip

 

Thanks again for your time and help,

 

Jayce.



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ok, starting your HDD is slow:

 

cpuusage_kernel.png

 

 

Your driver version of iaStorA.sys is "12.8.0.1016". Try older drivers or use the Microsoft AHCI driver.


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I am desperatly trying to uninstall that driver to get an older one or an other one, but once i uninstall it, I got a BSOD during PreSMSS.

 

Still trying to resolve this and post a new boot trace

 

EDIT:

 

Finally achieved rollback of named driver, to version 12.7.0.1036 (official one found on ASUS website for my MB) for the same boot time and following trace : 

 

http://online-legion...9_2013_2350.zip

 

(upload will end 10 minutes after that edit)

 

thanks again

 

Jayce

 

EDIT 2 :

 

I tried out with 2 other drivers, an other INTEL and an ASMedia, boot time seems to shorten a little with those but is still long.

Here is correspnding trace :

 

http://online-legion...9_2013_0051.zip

 

(upload will end 10 minutes after that edit)


Edited by Jayce, 22 September 2013 - 04:54 PM.


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the 12.7.0.1036 doesn't fix it. Still the same.

 

 

the last trace shows that the driver issue is fixed. Now Windows hags while enum die IDE controller:

<pnpObject name="PCIIDE\IDEChannel\4+20155ac6+0+3" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="556" endTime="47564" duration="47009" prePendTime="0" description="Canal IDE" friendlyName="ATA Channel 3" />

this causes a 47s delay.

 

I also see that the TPM driver causes a delay. Do you use TPM?


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Hello,

 

What can I do for IDE issue ? plug off my old IDE drives ? My IDE drives are really tired, is it possible that the disk is the problem more than IDE channels ?

 

I did not really understood the concept of TPM (it seems to be a chip for security purposes), if I am using it i do not know I am :P

May TPM be disabled ? In BIOS ?

 

EDIT : I found that article on TPM, is it universal for all OS and platforms ? ( http://technet.micro...y/cc754524.aspx )

 

Thanks for your precious help,

 

Jayce


Edited by Jayce, 23 September 2013 - 06:36 AM.


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try to remove the IDE drives. Is boot faster?


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I was not at home yesterday, i will try this asap and give feedback asap



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So, i removed my IDE drives and boot is really fast now, but i don't really know if this is my drives who got a problem or my motherboard with IDE channels :/

 

Here is the last trace without IDE drives, only 3 SSD drives : http://online-legion...9_2013_1835.zip

 

And thanks again and again for your appreciated help dude !



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How many drives are they?
Try with one at the time.
Check that they are NOT on "cable select", verify the jumpers on them to be set correctly.

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boot is now fast (21s to UI and 24s to be fully booted)

- <timing bootDoneViaExplorer="21664" bootDoneViaPostBoot="34864" 

Enum of the IDE ports now takes 3.5s:

- <phase name="bootStart" startTime="16" endTime="3605" duration="3589">
  <pnpObject name="PCIIDE\IDEChannel\5+23e44528+0+0" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="479" endTime="3490" duration="3011" prePendTime="0" description="Canal IDE" friendlyName="ATA Channel 0" /> 
  <pnpObject name="PCIIDE\IDEChannel\5+23e44528+0+1" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="479" endTime="3490" duration="3011" prePendTime="0" description="Canal IDE" friendlyName="ATA Channel 1" /> 
  <pnpObject name="PCIIDE\IDEChannel\4+20155ac6+0+0" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="479" endTime="1504" duration="1024" prePendTime="0" description="Canal IDE" friendlyName="ATA Channel 0" /> 
  <pnpObject name="PCIIDE\IDEChannel\4+20155ac6+0+5" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="480" endTime="1495" duration="1014" prePendTime="0" description="Canal IDE" friendlyName="ATA Channel 5" /> 
  <pnpObject name="PCIIDE\IDEChannel\4+20155ac6+0+1" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="480" endTime="1493" duration="1013" prePendTime="0" description="Canal IDE" friendlyName="ATA Channel 1" /> 
  <pnpObject name="PCIIDE\IDEChannel\4+20155ac6+0+2" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="480" endTime="1493" duration="1013" prePendTime="0" description="Canal IDE" friendlyName="ATA Channel 2" /> 

During boot, starting the Firewall service is slow because of loading the rules (FirewallAPI.DLL!FwEnumRules).


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