thecavern Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I am thinking about running the defragmention feature.However, I'm not sure whether I really need to do so.Is there any way to check the hard drive prior to running defragmentionin order to determine whether defragmention needs to be executed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJinje Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Get the DiskTrix free Domain edition and give it a look-see. The graph is easy to read and offers more detail than anything else.http://www.pcworld.com/product/950263/ultimatedefrag-free-public-domain-edition.htmlI'd give the file/folder defrag (alphabetically and closer to $MFT) to improve performance. Even if your files are 100% defragged, you can be a little faster if the files are re-aligned closer to the master file table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm fairly certain that Vista will automatically defrag the disk by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm fairly certain that Vista will automatically defrag the disk by default.Something else, set apart your fair certainty? http://www.howtohaven.com/system/vistadefragmentation.shtmlThe "issue" is that anything where fragments are 64 Mb or more is considered "contiguous".@MrJinjeHave you actually read what is listed as "Pro"? on that site:ProsFreeIntelligent placement of files during defragExcellent drive displayAwkward and confusing interfaceSeriously, before starting the usual flamewar about which defragmenting utility is better, there are several freeware ones available, besides running a ful defrag from command line, more or less each of them does what is needed, and the actual differences in results between any two of them are one of those things that only a few experts may (please note the dubitative form) be able to understand/benchmark/compare properly.Other well known tools are:http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.htmlhttp://www.kessels.com/jkdefrag/jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 run defrag C: /A, this should show you if Windows thinks it needs defragmentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 run defrag C: /A, this should show you if Windows thinks it needs defragmentation.Very, very different from the defrag C: -a -v suggested in the given link :http://www.howtohaven.com/system/vistadefragmentation.shtmljaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 sorry, haven't looked at your link because your other links suggested ugly 3rd party tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJinje Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) @MrJinjeHave you actually read what is listed as "Pro"? on that site:ProsAwkward and confusing interfaceOther well known tools are:http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.htmlhttp://www.kessels.com/jkdefrag/Yeah, they don't host it on Disktrix.com anymore, so the only places to find it are on CNET and other download sites. Hadn't seen that 'pro' but don't matter, I like the app, works fine for me. But whichever advanced defragger (also had never seen the other two before) you use, I can verify that normal defragging does not cut it on drives with hundreds of thousands of small files. Things like searches/scans etc take longer because the defragged files are not 'in order'. Meaning when the hdd is jumping one section of the platter to reach the next tiny file it adds milliseconds delay each time. Not noticeable until you have a vast number of files, but things like Anti-Virus can shave off a few seconds / minutes of run-time.Normal Defrag = randomly putting all books on one shelfAdvanced Defrag = dewey decimal system. in order, easy to find. $MFT is the card catalog. Edited October 15, 2013 by MrJinje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) @MrJinjeWell, searches (at least on NTFS) should be almost instantaneous (of course not with Windows Search).JFYI (if you haven't seen Ultradefrag and JKdefrag before it is unlikely that you know about this relatively new kid on the block : , Swiftsearch):http://reboot.pro/topic/18855-windows-file-search-utility-that-is-fast/http://sourceforge.net/projects/swiftsearch/I am pretty sure that you can appreciate the differences between the "standard" defrag and a more advanced tool , what I was saying was that once "beyond" the "standard" defrag, the comparisons between the various more advanced tools (particularly those where file placement strategy can be chosen/programmed) is not easy at all.jaclaz Edited October 15, 2013 by jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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