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is microsoft going to bring out windows 9

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is windows 9 going to be developed for pc's without the touch screen? also dose anybody know when windows 9 be starting beta? I would like to have windows 9 for pc so I can do unattended cd in unattended cd.




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I haven't heard anything. It seems to be that MS is going away from traditional OS releases and going into making update versions. After all, we got Win8.1 less than a year after Win8 came out.


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And, bearing in view that such updates should be each time more minor, the next instalment shall be called Win 8.11, and the one following it 8.111...



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The trend is to reach version:
8.1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
by summer of 2027.
At that time, all computers will crash as the name of an update file and particularly that in the WinSxS folder will be longer than the whole available space on disk.
The global crash will result on skynet getting self-awareness ..... :ph34r:

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there will be win9 and 10 and so on otherwise they'd lose their revenue

as these minor .1 .2 updates are free

 

not to mention that you can't forever upgrade same OS, winblows 8 will be outdated in 3-4 years


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not to mention that you can't forever upgrade same OS, winblows 8 will be outdated in 3-4 years

 

Why is this automatically assumed that an OS will be outdated in 3 to 4 years?  It's almost as if you buy into the planned obsolecense that Microsoft itself puports.  Why couldn't an OS go on for ten years?

 

If Microsoft needs to generate revenue, create another profit centre or revenue generator.  Foucs on Office 365 or apps development.  Perhaps they will pay for the updates on traditional Windows as it becomes less of a profit centre.



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Honestly I would rather pay a yearly fee for my chosen os(es) to be kept in support.

 

I would have NO issues paying 50-100 dollars a year for my xp and win7 to stay updated and not go out of service.



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not to mention that you can't forever upgrade same OS, winblows 8 will be outdated in 3-4 years

 

Why is this automatically assumed that an OS will be outdated in 3 to 4 years? 

 

 

for the same purpose why cpu's, gpu's and other s*** gets out of support after 2-3 years
a capitalism

 

new OS = new software, ditch old OS, automaticaly forces user to buy new OS for new version of software, new drivers hence new hardware

etc etc...

 

money money money


Edited by vinifera, 20 November 2013 - 05:54 PM.

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Actually, there's an argument to be made that it's the money angle that's helped to keep Microsoft OS's around for years on end. If Windows users were asked to change their OS every year or two, Microsoft would long since have had a riot on their hands.

 

OTOH, installing a new OS every six months or couple of years is exactly what the developers of so many Linux ("free" software) distros expect users to do. Linux developers couldn't care less about the annoyance and disruption they visit on users because with few exceptions their living doesn't depend on making an OS that people will pay for. Some months ago I went into the Linux partition on one of my machines to get updates for the OS that I had there (Zorin 5.2), and there were no updates to be had as they'd moved on to version 6 -- IIRC the URL used by the package manager didn't work anymore. I had only installed 5.2 like nine months before!! And now this year they're already up to version 7. Sheesh.

 

Linux "long-term" releases are supported for what, 3 years. I'm on Vista which came out 7 years ago, am still getting official patches, and will be on extended support until 2017. More than ten years in all. Windows XP will have enjoyed 13 years of support when the patches stop coming next April, and Windows 7 is slated to get like 11 years (2020).

 

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Is it just me or is everyone overlooking what actually constitutes the "need" for an upgrade? The underlying architecture and security of the platform itself is usually what limits the practicable support for updates over a long term period.  

My personal opinion...  Microsoft, known with the largest footprint in the market must provide support for the consumer and (sadly) enterprise who have not taken a serious understanding to the need for upgrading past XP.  It's unfortunate to note that around 1/3 of the global PC market is still using XP and either these individuals are budget strapped, lazy or perhaps simply uninformed of the security risks they pose.  In any manner Microsoft must continue to be an ally in the consumer driven market by helping extend the support of an overused and outdated system - although this is seen as polite gesture and added value to those who invested in XP years ago, it's encouraging a bad security practice and false sense of security for the users who depend on it.  Microsoft should have cut the cord to XP a lot sooner to be honest.


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My personal opinion...

Duly noted.

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http://www.msfn.org/...ally-necessary/

And, for NO apparent reason:
http://www.dedoimedo...rs/experts.html

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Sorry to revive a dead thread, but is this going to be Windows 8.2 or Windows 9?  In the Windows 8 Forum, a new Windows 8.2 release is supposed to be ready for March.  However, it sounds as if it will be Windows 9.  Am I clear on this?



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Whatever label they put on what they're said to be releasing this March, my understanding of it is that "Windows 9" is slated to come out in the spring of 2015. This spring's release could be 8.2, or 8.1 Update 1, something else??? -- it boggles my mind as to why they keep messing around with the nomenclature. :wacko:

 

[speculation] Maybe the confusion is a deliberate attempt to get the public away from thinking in terms of discrete service packs or OS releases, in preparation for the Brave New World when we're all good little boys and girls accepting our automatic updates unquestioningly and are all on the same version at the same time. Hail, Caesar!! [/speculation]

 

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Sorry to revive a dead thread, but is this going to be Windows 8.2 or Windows 9?  In the Windows 8 Forum, a new Windows 8.2 release is supposed to be ready for March.  However, it sounds as if it will be Windows 9.  Am I clear on this?

Can you rate (in a 0 to 10 scale) what is the actual relevance (if any) and/or practical use of such piece of info? :w00t:

 

If you find any relevance in it. (or practical use) for the info, i.e. you assigned more than 0 to the question, what is the particular aspect that you feel important?

 

I mean, when the *whatever* will come out will actually come out, it will be called in the *whatever* way the good MS guys will see fit, but what's in a name? :unsure:

 

It can be:

Pessimistic:

  1. the usual abomination, called 8.2
  2. the usual abomination, called 9
  3. the usual abomination, called "Curtains 1.0"

 

Optimistic:

  1. a good OS, called 8.2
  2. a good OS, called 9
  3. a good OS, called "New Panorama"

The relevant point seems to me whether it will be a good release or not. :ph34r:, and we might get to know that once it will be available.

 

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Unless the sky falls onto our heads too soon, MS has no choice, really, if not to release a next Windows version.

It'll neither be the usual abomination, nor quite a good OS, but it'll do for a time, and shall be codenamed "Brave New Windows".

 

After 7 years, it'll be followed by "Windows X", codenamed "Redemption", which shall be the greatest OS created by MS, ever, and shall wipe all competition forevermore. Legend will have it was based on Windows XP, after MS eschewed all later nonsense and got back to the basics...

 

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Sorry to revive a dead thread, but is this going to be Windows 8.2 or Windows 9?  In the Windows 8 Forum, a new Windows 8.2 release is supposed to be ready for March.  However, it sounds as if it will be Windows 9.  Am I clear on this?

Can you rate (in a 0 to 10 scale) what is the actual relevance (if any) and/or practical use of such piece of info? :w00t:

 

If you find any relevance in it. (or practical use) for the info, i.e. you assigned more than 0 to the question, what is the particular aspect that you feel important?

 

I mean, when the *whatever* will come out will actually come out, it will be called in the *whatever* way the good MS guys will see fit, but what's in a name? :unsure:

 

It can be:

Pessimistic:

  1. the usual abomination, called 8.2
  2. the usual abomination, called 9
  3. the usual abomination, called "Curtains 1.0"

 

Optimistic:

  1. a good OS, called 8.2
  2. a good OS, called 9
  3. a good OS, called "New Panorama"

The relevant point seems to me whether it will be a good release or not. :ph34r:, and we might get to know that once it will be available.

 

jaclaz

 

 

Sigh!  (OK Jaclaz, maybe some of us care.)  I wanted to know if it means a different vision path perhaps, and maybe the differences in version numbering may mean a different marketing path.  I just want to know so I asked, that's all!

 

And yes, I would like to know more importantly what's in the release.



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[off topic] Sorry... I've got to stop. I'm getting short of liquid helium, which is sorely needed to keep my crystall ball below 100 °C... [/off topic]    :angel

Hmmm, usually it's liquid nitrogen, not helium, that is commonly used to keep cool crystal balls (you must have one of those cheap, made in China ones that overheat :ph34r:)

 

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Maybe these links will be of some use to the current discussion:

 

Microsoft's Windows 8.1 Update 1: Rumored release target is March 11

 

Microsoft to share Windows Threshold plans at Build 2014 show: Report

 

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Edited by JorgeA, 02 February 2014 - 01:36 PM.


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The relevant point seems to me whether it will be a good release or not. :ph34r:, and we might get to know that once it will be available.

 

It wont matter if its a good release or not but it will mater if its better than 8. If its not I think they might increase windows 7 mainstream support a bit just to keep their customers.


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Windows 9 to be released earliest by fall of 2014 and latest Spring of 2015. http://bgr.com/2014/...release-date-2/ and http://bgr.com/2014/...te-rtm-october/


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poor source / none at all


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Windows Vista is NT 6.0 and every other windows after that is the same exact game, but they make updates. What else could the average user gain from another upgrade, or update.

Most people uses MS-works/Office. This makes up 99% of consumers.
Nexy group uses it for fancy graphics.
Next group uses computers for training purposes.
Next group uses computers for internet usage.
Next groups uses computers to watch TV on youtube.
Next group uses it to play videogames.
That small less then 0.0000000X % uses computers to make programs for consumer usage.

I do not really think so. I think college students will bear the next burden of another upgrade. Then the consumer. Offices and training facilities will order a burden ( like those people with VIsta ), and deal with that problem. Right now a college has a bunch of Apple PPC computers, and they do not even use the latest version of Adobe products. Who does that go to? Public Schools in some 3rd world nation? From my understanding, they donate the computers to lesser facilities.

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well if you look at MS strategy from windows dawn age

 

- they forced people to switch due to new OS possibilities // DOS-9x

- then stability // NT 5

- then new Hardware (drivers) // NT 6

- now Software support

 

what will be next reason ?


Edited by vinifera, 02 April 2014 - 08:19 PM.

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After working in IT for years I can tell you that corporate culture rarely changes, people tend to do what they have always done. At Microsoft that seems to be charge for version numbers and create overly complicated names for products. Innovation is mostly done by small start-up’s, you rarely see it in established companies full of technology managers not looking to rock the boat.


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