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VLC 2.1.0 and Windows 98 - not quite working (?)

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Just look at the strings in shortcuts. if there's no RUNDLL32 call before the ffdshow.ax, it may not work due to many missing functions (Kext may help with that). Older versions run it through RUNDLL32, newer ones don't. Not sure at which version they made the switch.




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Gomplayer and 24-bit/192 khz flac file: 

"Process uncompressed audio (PCM)" ( DirectShow audio decoding filters ) was introduced with k-lite codec Pack version 5.05. GOM 2.43 plays the file, if the filter is activated (set to ffdshow - AC3filter not tested) during installation. GOM 2.43 doesn't require Kext. K lite codec Pack 5.05 full installed with comp mode Win 2000.

 

Another Test:

GOM plays the file with K-lite codec Pack 6.10 Full and Standard, but not with the 6.10 Basic version.


Edited by schwups, 02 December 2013 - 03:22 PM.


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Just look at the strings in shortcuts. if there's no RUNDLL32 call before the ffdshow.ax, it may not work due to many missing functions (Kext may help with that). Older versions run it through RUNDLL32, newer ones don't. Not sure at which version they made the switch.

The ffdshow panels open with corrected shortcuts up to version 6.30.



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Just look at the strings in shortcuts. if there's no RUNDLL32 call before the ffdshow.ax, it may not work due to many missing functions (Kext may help with that). Older versions run it through RUNDLL32, newer ones don't. Not sure at which version they made the switch.

I found a relative simlple workaround to open the panels of k-lite codec Pack versions 6.40 (ffdshow rev3574) and higher. KernelEX and Kext are requiured. This should also work for ffdshow only. I'll change the topic or open a new topic for "k-lite codec Pack and ffdshow with KernelEX and Kext", because it is off-topic. :)



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What I don't get is why would you want so hard to use K-Lite in this situation, when standalone versions of ffdshow are available from its official repository or alternative old version repositories.

 

As I said, I don't like the fact that K-Lite is password-protected and cannot be analyzed or partially extracted. Personally I've had a lot of problems with certain codecs during the years and I'd rather not mess them all up with a package I cannot control the way I want. But well, that's only me.

 

As for the K-Lite setting regarding uncompressed format decoding, I guess it's the same thing with the one in ffdshow's control panel > Codecs > Uncompressed.



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Indeed no sound with VLC 2.1.1 (portable) !!

MediaPlayerClassic Home Cinema (1.5.1.2903) plays the file but sound is very bad - sounds almost like a mono recording from the 1930s !!

So it may indeed be something more 98se related than a player 'issue'.

 

I think I found a way with the above mpc-hc without installing/using external filters.

Please test:

- Audio renderer: Default DirectSound Device  (Other renderers might work too)

- Load the flac file

- Right click -> filters -> ffdshow audio decoder -> click Properties

- There is an option called 're-sample'. Activate it and set it to 96kHz.

 

But, of course, recent versions of ffdshow may allow even higher re-samplings.



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The flac file stuttering error is fixed with latest VLC version 2.1.2 - released today.



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Indeed no sound with VLC 2.1.1 (portable) !!

MediaPlayerClassic Home Cinema (1.5.1.2903) plays the file but sound is very bad - sounds almost like a mono recording from the 1930s !!

So it may indeed be something more 98se related than a player 'issue'.

 

I think I found a way with the above mpc-hc without installing/using external filters.

Please test:

- Audio renderer: Default DirectSound Device  (Other renderers might work too)

- Load the flac file

- Right click -> filters -> ffdshow audio decoder -> click Properties

- There is an option called 're-sample'. Activate it and set it to 96kHz.

 

But, of course, recent versions of ffdshow may allow even higher re-samplings.

 

Yes it works here, too. It sounds good and it isn't mono. Testet with MPC HC 1.5.1.2903, K-lite codec Pack 8.40 (ffdshow 4324) and then with ffdshow 4525. GOM Player doesn't play the file with that ffdshow setting. Soundcard: Creative SB 128 PCI



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The flac file stuttering error is fixed with latest VLC version 2.1.2 - released today.

I tried VLC 2.1.2 with kex (upgrade from 2.0.5) few days ago but when I click file menu it crashes while 2.0.5 didn't (but drag&drop a file seems to work) so I reverted back.


Edited by xrayer, 05 January 2014 - 06:59 PM.


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The flac file stuttering error is fixed with latest VLC version 2.1.2 - released today.

I tried VLC 2.1.2 with kex (upgrade from 2.0.5) few days ago but when I click file menu it crashes while 2.0.5 didn't (but drag&drop a file seems to work) so I reverted back.

 

 

Hallo,

 

VLC 2.0.6+ should run. It runs on all my systems ME and 98SE. The MSVCRT.dll has to be updated. Running vlc with KernelEX comp. mode 2k or XP can lead to such problems. VLC must run with default compatibility options (KernelEx is enabled). 2.1.0 and higher must be installed with XP mode but must run with default compatibility options. Kext isn't required.  



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VLC v2.1.2 runs on my 98SE+KernelEx system (with default compatability) as well.  

My MSVCRT.dll is v7.10.7031.4 from U98SESP3.  

You don't have to bother with the VLC .exe installer if you get the .ZIP download: http://download.vide...b/videolan/vlc/

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