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I am starting to think that you don't really want help/suggestions :ph34r:.

This makes NO SENSE whatsoever:

In the last days I tried those programs and other similar programs, but none of them could solve the problem.

the PassPass WILL allow logging in to a Windows system without providing a password. <- the last character is a full stop or period.

Did you try SPECIFICALLY that, not "those" or "other similar", that program grub4dos batch?

And you cannot login without providing a password? :w00t:

Just for the record you can use to the same effect on Windows XP also WindowsGate or any other tool that similarly patches msv1_0.dll, but you were suggested to try that specific tool, NOT other ones.

jaclaz

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I agree, just a mite ridiculous.

Noting there is NO "Admininstrator" (the folder), only "gr" and "ross", one must assume the Administrator Account was deleted by either User "gr" or "ross", one of which would HAVE to be in the Administrators Group to do this and while under the Safe Mode for it to be accessed for deletion -OR- the Folder was manually deleted (woops!) -OR- (while logged on as an Administrator) the Folder was literally RENAMED to either "gr" or "ross".

In any case, you SHOULD be able to log on to one or the other with the suggested tool -OR- using the search given to completely REMOVE the Passwords. I just used that search and the FIRST one showing gave a link to a number of Password Removers, the second of which I've used successfully whan assisting some "not so bright" friends and relatives.

To say they don't work is, well, "Inconceivable".

Or... SURELY you didn't "copy" "gr" from ANOTHER installation! That doesn't work as the OS will NOT PROPERLY recognize it (AFAIK)!

Have you, by chance, tried "F8 - Safe Mode" to see which accounts show up on the Welcome Screen (you didn't disable that, did you)?

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In order to disambiguate, there are at least 3 (three) different methods to access a XP for which you have lost a password:

  1. the editing of the (offline) Registry removing (or changing) the password of an existing user (which in this case may not be indicated, or not as much as #2 below, as the issue may be exactly with the SAM or with some connected authentication mechanism)
  2. the msv1_0.dll patching (which in this case may provide better results as it simply "skips" authentication)
  3. the cmd.exe -> utilman.exe/osk.exe renaming trick in order to create a new user (which may also be suited to this case, but that is IMHO the most complex to do)

jaclaz

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I agree, just a mite ridiculous.

Noting there is NO "Administrator" (the folder), only "gr" and "ross", one must assume the Administrator Account was deleted by either User "gr" or "ross", one of which would HAVE to be in the Administrators Group to do this and while under the Safe Mode for it to be accessed for deletion -OR- the Folder was manually deleted (woops!) -OR- (while logged on as an Administrator) the Folder was literally RENAMED to either "gr" or "ross".

-OR-... he simply never logged on a "administrator".

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I am starting to think that you don't really want help/suggestions :ph34r:.

This makes NO SENSE whatsoever:

In the last days I tried those programs and other similar programs, but none of them could solve the problem.

the PassPass WILL allow logging in to a Windows system without providing a password. <- the last character is a full stop or period.

Did you try SPECIFICALLY that, not "those" or "other similar", that program grub4dos batch?

And you cannot login without providing a password? :w00t:

Just for the record you can use to the same effect on Windows XP also WindowsGate or any other tool that similarly patches msv1_0.dll, but you were suggested to try that specific tool, NOT other ones.

jaclaz

Thank you Jaclaz! In fact I tried other tools, because I had problems using grub4dos. Could you help me explaining me how to use it?

And I say to Ponch that gr is me (administrator) and ross is my wife and both of us had no password.

gius

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I was just pointing to submix8c the fact that having no "administrator" folder in "Documents and Settings" doesn't indicate black magic or tempering with folders/accounts.

Simply, you have your 2 accounts and always logged on with "gr" or "ross" but never with "administrator" because you never had the need to. I do understand that "gr" is member of the administrator's group, but you need to understand that the "gr" account is not the (unique) "administrator" account that comes built in XP. That last account should still exist in your system as such unless you renamed it (but hopefully you'd know that).

To be clear, renaming the built in "administrator" account is not the same as creating an administrator account named "gr" during the "Out Of the Box Experience".

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Thank you Jaclaz! In fact I tried other tools, because I had problems using grub4dos. Could you help me explaining me how to use it?

What do you mean "problems"?

Read the guide:

http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/Grub4dos.htm

Particularly this page:

http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/install_windows.htm#windows1

and add grub4dos as an option in boot.ini.

Then follow the instructions on:

http://www.sherlock.reboot.pro/passpass-bypass-the-password/

jaclaz

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submix8c said

Have you, by chance, tried "F8 - Safe Mode" to see which accounts show up on the Welcome Screen

Yeah, also what Ponch said (did you password protect that during Unattended Install?). And what jaclaz said.

Yet, you say neither of the Accounts have (correction - "had") a Password?

both of us had no password.

Inconceivable!

What did you do to your install that prevents logon by a simple click-of-the-icon-on-Welcome?

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submix8c said

Have you, by chance, tried "F8 - Safe Mode" to see which accounts show up on the Welcome Screen

Yeah, also what Ponch said (did you password protect that during Unattended Install?). And what jaclaz said.

Yet, you say neither of the Accounts have (correction - "had") a Password?

both of us had no password.

Inconceivable!

What did you do to your install that prevents logon by a simple click-of-the-icon-on-Welcome?

I really don't know, and could you say me why is inconceivable to have no password?

Thank you Jaclaz! In fact I tried other tools, because I had problems using grub4dos. Could you help me explaining me how to use it?

What do you mean "problems"?

Read the guide:

http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/Grub4dos.htm

Particularly this page:

http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/install_windows.htm#windows1

and add grub4dos as an option in boot.ini.

Then follow the instructions on:

http://www.sherlock.reboot.pro/passpass-bypass-the-password/

jaclaz

Thank you, but probably it's too difficult for me to follow the instructions; when I'll have more time, I'll try again.

However, it seems to me, that if Winlite has the same options of XP, including the repair of a previous installation, probably we can say that it is a bug.

gius

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However, it seems to me, that if Winlite has the same options of XP, including the repair of a previous installation, probably we can say that it is a bug.

Let me understand this, you used a program without actually knowing what you were doing, very probably outside the intended scope/usage of the program, in such a way that you are not even capable of clearly reporting what exactly you did and since it didn't by sheer luck do what you presumed it should have done it is a bug of the nlite program? :w00t:

Instead of asking for assistance BEFORE doing the whatever you did (which rather clearly you had not any previous experience with) you come here asking for help AFTER, and once a suggestion is given to you, you first do ANOTHER thing, and then state how the suggested procedure is too difficult for you?

I presume that also grub4dos, RMPREPUSB and the PassPass script will result as being full of bugs :ph34r: (when and if you will have time to try them).

I strongly suggest you to NOT try them :no:, as they are potentially dangerous programs/tools :ph34r:, and I don't want to be (indirectly) the cause of further whining.

jaclaz

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However I tried the "Lazesoft Recovery suite Home Edition", and the problem persists; moreover #14 22 November 2013, Kelsenellenelvian said:


A "reinstall" of XP the way you tried to do it will not work...

A "reinstall" attempts to reconfigure XP as the way it was configured NOT the way of the new disk that was setup.

It is going to be likely that you will not be able to get into your "Old XP" as alot of the files and registry that was expected simply was not there for the setup to use. Thus rendering your installation flawed.

Once a os has been nLited (Beyond simply adding a service pack) a reinstall or repair install is highly likely to simply fail".



Sorry, but I didn't see a warning of danger if I tried to reinstall XP with NLite.


However, tonight I wish You all to have a Merry Christmas!


Bye - gius

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