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uri92

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Hi everybody!
I was hopeing you could help me.
So here is my problem:
I know that for the file winnt.sif to work I need
to put it in the I386 folder.BUT how can I do it with XPCreate?
At first when I didn't know it was supose to be in the
I386 folder - I copied it to the "FILESCD" and also put my
OEM folder. After I burend it I installed it and it did copied
the OEM folder but the winnt.sif file didn't work! BECUSE
it was in the root dictory of the disk and not on the
I386 folder. SO IN conclusion - how do I do that
the XPCREATE will copy the winnt.sif in the FILECD
dictory to the I386?
Thanks alot!,
Uri92
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Welcome, uri92. Much better post this time: positive posts get positive anwers!

You will need to create a sub-directory of the FILESCD directory, called I386, and place your WINNT.SIF there.

OK, OK, the documentation is a bit weak ...

Give it a go, and let us know how it works out for you.

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maybe you can make a big bold note on your site about where to put the winnt.sif file because i must admit it took me a day or two before i realized the FILESCD directory would actually copy the contents directly onto the CD as they are in this dir. Even tho i belive it says that somewhere on your site maybe mentioning something about the winnt.sif file would help?

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Well ... I must say that the new, sparse web site seems to have scared off some of the less experienced users, resulting in a dramatically reduced work load on this end ... so, I have to weigh the options ...

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well yeah this is true...maybe posting a stickie on the forums is a good idea. that way the user will have to have enough initiative to actually check the forums for the location to put the winnt.sif. but then again if they do a search for winnt.sif they should find this...

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:) You're catching on!

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I seem to have a problem getting winnt.sif to work as well. When booting to the XP CD, I get this message:

Line 1 of the INF file \i386\winnt.sif is invalid

Setup cannot continue. Press any key to exit.



Here is the winnt.sif:

;SetupMgrTag
[Data]
AutoPartition=1
MsDosInitiated="0"
UnattendedInstall="Yes"

[Unattended]
UnattendMode=FullUnattended
OemSkipEula=Yes
OemPreinstall=Yes
TargetPath=\WINDOWS
UnattendSwitch="yes"
DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore

[GuiUnattended]
AdminPassword=deleted
EncryptedAdminPassword=Yes
OEMSkipRegional=1
TimeZone=20
OemSkipWelcome=1

[UserData]
ProductKey=deleted
FullName="DK"
OrgName=""
ComputerName=dk

[Display]
BitsPerPel=32
Xresolution=800
YResolution=600
Vrefresh=75

[TapiLocation]
CountryCode=1

[RegionalSettings]
LanguageGroup=1

[Identification]
JoinWorkgroup=WORKGROUP

[Networking]
InstallDefaultComponents=Yes

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Line 1 of the INF file \i386\winnt.sif is invalid

Not sure where you are getting the "Line 1 of the INF file". Make sure the WINNT.SIF has the correct file extention.
Also, have a look at my WINNT.SIF (attached), it works fine from \FILESCD\I386\
Hope this helps...

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Line 1 of the INF file \i386\winnt.sif is invalid

Not sure where you are getting the "Line 1 of the INF file". Make sure the WINNT.SIF has the correct file extention.
Also, have a look at my WINNT.SIF (attached), it works fine from \FILESCD\I386\
Hope this helps...

I used your winnt.sif verbatim. I don't get the Line 1 error, all the hotfixes install, however nothing is being accessed from $OEM$ from what I can tell as no apps are being installed other than what I put in SVC-EXE. It will not run unattended and I still must go through the normal setup routine (entering cd key etc.). Winnt.sif is on the CD in I386 folder after burning is completed.

In XPCREATE, I placed winnt.sif in FILESCD\$OEM$\I386 . I also placed it in FILESCD\I386 as you posted, and GM instructed. Neither worked.

I must be doing something wrong, and a simple overlook no doubt, but it's getting a bit frustrating to say the least.

Once this is figured out, how do I load reg tweaks?

Thanks.

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Hi
Place the WINNT.SIF (Make sure it has a SIF extention, NOT WINNT.SIF.TXT or anything like that. Has to be only WINNT.SIF) in FILESCD\I386 only! Do not place elsewhere.
Take out the Drivers for the time being. Check your WMP file, it doesnt seem to be the correct version for WinXP.
You can place the reg files in \FILESCD\$OEM$\, using a cmdlines.txt file. Both the reg file or files and the cmdlines.txt file should be there. See mine and change it to suit your own needs).
We can work on the rest once we get the present issues resolved.

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I'm having a slight problem as well. When I use a winnt.sif file, the installation ends up with IE not associated with http url's and the Windows Update shortcut on the Classic Start Menu fails to open the Windows Update Website. I can post an edited version of my winnt.sif if it would be of help.

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The problem with my issue evidently was I didn't have the directory structure set up properly in the $OEM$ folder. Once I changed it to the attached pic (including the I386 folder not shown), it installed fine. Not all hotfixes installed, at least according to Add/Remove. No big deal, I'm just happy to get this far.

Now that it appears the basic install is working, it's time to refine and add. Thanks for the help shareef59, I hope you are willing to be of assistance for a few other questions, I really appreciate it. This is a great utility and saves a lot of time.

:)

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@xracer: Looks like you got it working ... I haven't looked over your log files, but if you are still having XPCREATE issues (and not reg tweaks / custom install issues), please post back.

@shareef59: Thanks for the help!

@daywalker03: Not sure about your IE thing. If you have it narrowed down to the WINNT.SIF file, try creating a new one with SETUPMGR.EXE. XPCREATE itself does not change file associations or the like: it only adds the files you place in the corresponding directories.

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I place winnt.sif in FILESCD\$OEM$\I386 just like you said on your site and found out it dosent work so i opened up the iso and put it in the i386 dir and made a new iso and that still didnt work. So from the posts i gather it work from FILESCD\I386.
So i will try that.

Take my hat off to you for the work you have done!! compiling these unattends and AIO take along time as it is and it be nice to be given the right info, regards to your workload the wrong info will raise more questions and more workload.

Can someone tell me why did jono rename all the files why not just leave them as the original filenames, dosent give you confidence when he jokes about trojans.

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Yes, FILESCD\I386 is the correct placement. That is also what the site says ... I did add a FAQ about $OEM$, for future reference.

I suspect the file renaming of the downloader is due to the download software "limitations". Still, never hurts to do a virus scan ... I would.

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Perfect Result!

I have $OEM$ and moved the I386\winnt.sif all to root and it works.

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Another one down!

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Hi Greenmachine,


first a big thank for your very helpfull tool!
Within the last two days I made more progress than in a week before -and this way it is much easier to maintain setup CDs than extracting all the hotfixes manually to the i386 folder.
I had the same problem with the WINNT.SIF and the reason was that your WEB page says: create $OEM$\I386\WINNT.SIF.
Before I found, out I created the image manually after I moved the file to the 'real' i386 folder.
Here is another difference:
The MP hotfix 837272 cannot be in the SVC-HF1 folder (at least the german one). This is different on your WEB page. Also valid for 819638.

Good work!

Gregor

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Bitte schoen!

I thought that was clear about $OEM$ being inside FILESCD. Maybe have to re-word it. Ooops, now I see what you mean. Fixed.

What problem did you have with 837272? Didn't install? Files not found? Someone else mentioned an issue with this one, but it works fine for me ... Please let me know what is not working, so I can fix it, or update my list.

As for 819638, that is a MS Project update. Special case, and not the XP OS, so ... not my problem!

Thanks for pointing out the "weak" points!

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Hi GreenMachine,

it pops up claiming about wrong parameters.
It wants: /quiet /passive /uninstall /norestart /forcerestart /l /n /o /f or /integrate:path
Same with 828026

Oh, I forgot to mention that I only see this with SILENTINSTALL=NO in the XPCreate.ini

Gregor

Edit:

Hi GreenMachine,

Sorry, forget this about the two MP hotfixes.
This was my fault - the reason was 17778 which needs to be shifted to GUIRunOnce.
So - nothing to do.

Gregor

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Ahhh ... once again an ignored problem goes away! Glad you got it figured out. Been a while since I tried the SILENTINSTALL=NO thingy. Dates from the days when I had less faith in the XPCREATOR.

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I only want to place the productkey in my winnt.sif file, someone told me that I must set a settin to defaulthide in order to do so. But then (and i've tried this many times) when i install windows xp, at the t-39 stage i get an annoying popup welcome message. How do I turn that off?

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Never seen that one, either ... Where you gettin' this stuff!
(Screenshots are often helpfull.)

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I only want to place the productkey in my winnt.sif file, someone told me that I must set a settin to defaulthide in order to do so. But then (and i've tried this many times) when i install windows xp, at the t-39 stage i get an annoying popup welcome message. How do I turn that off?

You are really asking this in the wrong place as this isn't a XPCREATE matter really....you'll find more info on this in the rest of the main forum...try searching for one thing and browse Here!!

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Hi GreenMachine,

it pops up claiming about wrong parameters.
It wants: /quiet /passive /uninstall /norestart /forcerestart /l /n /o /f or /integrate:path
Same with 828026

Oh, I forgot to mention that I only see this with SILENTINSTALL=NO in the XPCreate.ini

Gregor

Edit:

Hi GreenMachine,

Sorry, forget this about the two MP hotfixes.
This was my fault - the reason was 17778 which needs to be shifted to GUIRunOnce.
So - nothing to do.

Gregor

I'm getting this error also, WindowsMedia9-KB837272-x86-ENU.exe is in SVC-HF1 and kicks up with "command line syntax option error" but if I look, the package has an icon instead of the default one. Perhaps the version I have isn't the right package? I'll look at the one on the download list (I manually downloaded all mine)




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