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Windows 8.2

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As the windows 8.2 Update is coming by windows update in March. Is there any pre-requisite do you have to be on Windows 8.1 Running already, or will it upgrade from Windows 8?

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As the windows 8.2 Update is coming by windows update in March. Is there any pre-requisite do you have to be on Windows 8.1 Running already, or will it upgrade from Windows 8?

have all windows 8 updates installed, then grab the free windows 8.1 upgrade from the MS store app, it will upgrade you to 8.1 and then eventually you will get the update1 via windows update

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this will be only an Update for 8.1, no 8.2. 8.2 is canceled for Windows 9.

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More like, they are changing the version number to get away from the "bad" 8 image. Even 8.1 is a separate OS, not a service pack, because it packs your win8 installation in a windows.old folder - only upgrading or reinstalling the OS does that. win8.2 was supposed to be a new OS also, but they are renaming it to 9. The "win8.2" is actually win8.1 update1 (or SP1 using the old nomenclature).

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So to be clear, you're saying that Windows 8.2 is going to be Windows 9?

What are the new features?

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sorry to be party crasher but ignore thurrot's babeling and check wzors blog every now and then

http://wzascok.livejournal.com/

as thurrot takes infos from him anyway

you get purty pictures too :P

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I really liked the comment from "Nine54" on Paul's site. He made some good points about the outdated notion of "Windows Everywhere"

On the thought of his response (which I cannot seem to paste here, so go read it first) why doesn't Microsoft focus on Explorer-based Windows on the desktop and notebook, while placing an RT-based Metro UI on Surface devices or maybe even other ARM devices like Chromebooks?

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Isn't it what the rumors say about win9? It would be ideal and was what everyone and their mom was telling Sinofsky when he was babbling about Metro on desktop being the compromise to allow us to have both desktop and metro. Metro apps running windowed in desktop was what everyone wouldn't object to.

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It's initially encouraging to hear things about Windows Threshold like, "This is the release that my sources previously pegged as being the one that will see the return of the Start menu and the ability to run Metro-style apps on the desktop alongside desktop applications". A return to fundamentals (i.e., making it actually do things people need again) certainly seems in order.

It's impressive to hear that fewer people have adopted Windows 8.1 (25 million) than used Windows 7's Backup feature (6%, or by my estimate 30 million). Microsoft used that number to deprecate Windows Backup support from Windows 8.1 (though it's not really all gone).

But I question whether Microsoft still has the ability to do serious Windows engineering. They can't have come through this ridiculousness without casualties.

Microsoft strikes me as a company that's lost in the wilderness because they followed leaders who can't think about more than one thing at a time, nor change course to avoid previously unseen rocks.

-Noel

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Speaking of "changing course", an illustration that compares "staying the course"...

Scenario: You're on a game show, "Let's Make a Deal".

You're asked to pick from Door number 1, 2, or 3. There's a new car behind one of them.

You pick Door number 3.

The game show host opens Door number 2 and shows you that there's a goat back there.

Should you switch to door number 1, now that you know more? Or is there an equal chance you've picked the right door already and you should just stick with it. After all, think how bad you'll feel later if you change your choice and the car really WAS back there behind Door number 3...

The answer may surprise you.

-Noel

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this will be only an Update for 8.1, no 8.2. 8.2 is canceled for Windows 9.

I suspect with this update, as with 8.1, that users will need to reinstall Windows fresh again and all their personal settings and applications would be wiped.

*Great move Microshaft.

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no, MS releases it as MSU files:

01_39453_original.jpg

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Kind of like a service pack, then.

There was a time that I'd jump all over a new service pack from Microsoft. That was when they had talent on staff and did mostly good things. Now they single-mindedly focus on pushing everyone to the App Store without providing any features customers could actually want.

All I feel is skepticism that there will be ANYTHING good about the new version; I've read of no new features worth mentioning. Tell me why we should want such a thing?

I suspect Microsoft will just continue the course they've set where they're just deleting feature after useful feature. Remind me again why we should want such a thing?

Right now my Windows 8.1 is perfectly stable for me, and actually facilitates my work. A new version can only make it less stable. Microsoft, you need to convince us we should want such a thing!

-Noel

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By the way, there's a wake up call in this for everyone:

Now is the time to reconfigure Windows Updates to ask for your permission rather than just letting Microsoft install what they want, when they want.

-Noel

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Now ...

Now???

LOL I've taken that approach for YEARS! :)

Cheers and Regards

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haven't used WU since WinME days ... ouch !

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Heh heh heh, you know I wasn't talking to you. :)

By the way, do you know about this handy little tool?

http://www.quppa.net/wunotify/

-Noel

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sure. This is a must have tool under Windows 8.x

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By the way, there's a wake up call in this for everyone:

 

Now is the time to reconfigure Windows Updates to ask for your permission rather than just letting Microsoft install what they want, when they want.

 

-Noel

 

 

Loooks like Microslum took heed to your advice. ;)

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Actually, the time I mentioned above has passed.

 

NOW may be the time to disable Windows Updates entirely.  I haven't done so yet, but my Win 8.1 system is perfectly stable, and having to go through and try to read between the lines in the mostly undocumented update descriptions is just ridiculous.

 

I've come to realize that the more Microsoft wants it, the less I want it.

 

-Noel

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Welcome to the light, Noel!  I'm just sorry that you had to spend so much time suffering on the dark side.  But better late than never. :)

 

I am very glad, though, that you documented all your testing for the benefit of the rest of us.  Now we'll have to find some other sucker brave soul to do that work. :)

 

Cheers and Regards, my friend.

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On my newest system I have not run any MS updates (I have updated flash and java) since setup a good 3 months or so. All seems to be running fine so far with the exception of Windows Defender. 

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Heh, I appreciate the thoughts and regards, bphlpt, though I've not made a particularly fundamental shift.  Don't forget who recommended suspicion of the New Microsoft back in February 2014 here.  :-)

 

Thing is, all us folks with some actual knowledge of the tech and the industry could see this coming.  And to be brutally honest I really don't like where I see it going!  Microsoft can no longer return to the straight and narrow, and so the future of computing is going to shift in ways that are hard to see.

 

Much as I have never loved Unix, it (and its derivatives) may ultimately win out and define the future.  Who knows, maybe Apple will rule the high tech world one day...  At least they've never left behind the "it needs to actually work" concept.

 

-Noel

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