extraoneya Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 HiHave had this problem for years. 5 of my 7 restore points are from sys images that I no longer have (3 yrs old). These do not delete using Win system tools or CC Cleaner.How do I remove these worthless restore points from taking up room in my sys restore settings cache? See attached. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 via winPEthats how I got rid of my WinME & XP restore points and I was running "7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloha Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 How about temporarily turning off System Restore? When I did it on Win 8, all the restore points were deleted!Of course you can always turn it on again after that and create new restore points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraoneya Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 via winPEthats how I got ridd of my WinME & XP restore points and I was running "7"thanks for the reply, but I don't want to install another OSHow about temporarily turning off System Restore? When I did it on Win 8, all the restore points were deleted!Of course you can always turn it on again after that and create new restore points.Did that several times in several ways, w/o getting rid of the backup ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) winPE isn't a OS its sorta rescue disc (live cd), which loads Windows UI from CD/DVDthus you can delete, rename and modify files that are usually locked Edited February 17, 2014 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) @extraoneya, have you tried to go through the instructions here, which shows how to delete all previous restore points? Then you can create a new manual restore point to use as a new starting point.Before you create a new manual restore point, you can also take Aloha's suggestion to temporarily disable System Restore, reboot, and check and make sure that C:\hiberfil.sys is deleted. (It's normally a hidden system file so be sure that "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" is UN-checked in Windows Explorer > Tools > Folder Options > View > Advanced.) Then you should be able to re-enable System Restore and continue.Cheers and Regards Edited February 17, 2014 by bphlpt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraoneya Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 winPE isn't a OS its sorta rescue disc (live cd), which loads Windows UI from CD/DVDthus you can delete, rename and modify files that are usually lockedOK, I remember it now. But it’s not that they are locked. I have a unlocking utility & if I could get to them maybe unlocking & then deleting would work. If I knew where they were & are accessible, could do that.What I think is happening is this;Those old restore points were made automatically at the time I made the system images. Those restore points don’t want to disappear unless they’re removed by going though Win Backup & they find their old linkage w/ those backups that made them. I remember that there is a box that asks you if you want to delete or overwrite a particular dated backup.However, I didn’t delete those backups from the backup program, but rather through Windows Explorer or just trashed the USB drives they were on.@extraoneya, have you tried to go through the instructions here, which shows how to delete all previous restore points? Then you can create a new manual restore point to use as a new starting point.Before you create a new manual restore point, you can also take Aloha's suggestion to temporarily disable System Restore, reboot, and check and make sure that C:\hiberfil.sys is deleted. (It's normally a hidden system file so be sure that "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" is UN-checked in Windows Explorer > Tools > Folder Options > View > Advanced.) Then you should be able to re-enable System Restore and continue.Cheers and RegardsYup...been there & done ALL the published solutions, shut down Sys Restore, decreased the size, used disk cleanup, used other utilities...etc.....etc...See above for why I think they don't want to leave the comforts of where ever they call home. I actually have this problem on 2 separate computers, both running win7 Pro x64. I haven't seen any reference to anyone else having the Identical issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I was wrong above, the restore points are actually stored in System Volume Information. Sorry for any confusion.Be sure you have tried all four methods described here - http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/336-system-protection-restore-points-delete.html1) Through System Protection to Delete All Restore Points2) Through Disk Cleanup to Delete All Restore Points3) Using "CCleaner" to Delete Individual Restore Points4) Using "System Restore Explorer" to Delete Individual Restore PointsCheers and Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraoneya Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 I was wrong above, the restore points are actually stored in System Volume Information. Sorry for any confusion.Be sure you have tried all four methods described here - http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/336-system-protection-restore-points-delete.html1) Through System Protection to Delete All Restore Points2) Through Disk Cleanup to Delete All Restore Points3) Using "CCleaner" to Delete Individual Restore Points4) Using "System Restore Explorer" to Delete Individual Restore PointsCheers and Regards#1-3, check (the backup points never show up in these utilites)#4, ah, a new utility, shows promise!See 1st cap for all the dead/backup generated points on this puter (more points can't be seen, as well as the few good points)See 2nd cap for the results of what Sys Restore Explr. shows (the same as all other utilites) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraoneya Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Just for grins.....since bphlpt said be sure....for the 1,768th time, I went through sys protection to delete ALL points in both C & D drives...to see the points STILL present, see the 1st screen cap in my above post ?!!()!&!!?> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If I knew where they wereuse any fast search (not microsofts) that reads hidden dataput in search field: _restore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraoneya Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) If I knew where they wereuse any fast search (not microsofts) that reads hidden dataput in search field: _restoreI show All System Files & display extensions in Win Explr, is that what u mean? I thought there was a prob in manually deleting them or it wasn't possible??? Edited February 19, 2014 by extraoneya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) I thought there was a prob in manually deleting them or it wasn't possible???thats why I said to do it from WinPEas you can't unlock those from OS itself, apps like unlocker won't help you Edited February 19, 2014 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraoneya Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 I thought there was a prob in manually deleting them or it wasn't possible???thats why I said to do it from WinPEas you can't unlock those from OS itself, apps like unlocker won't help youBut will WinPE. expose those retore points that all the other utilities failed to show??...that's what's been happening to me for years. As I show above, none of these apps sdisplay the points made by Win Backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 If, using WinPE, looking in "System Volume Information" on ALL disks in your system do not show those restore points the other utilities do not show, then it seems that those restore points might be "phantom" restore points that actually don't exist anymore. It reminds me of what happens when you delete an app manually by deleting it's folder in "Program Files". If afterwards you go to "Programs and Features" and try to delete it there you get a "that program does not exist" type of message and it offers to delete the entry. If you go through all the steps to delete all restore points, then you double check with WinPE to make sure that nothing exists in all the "System Volume Information" folders, but they still show up in "System Restore", then it is acting as if it has a list of restore points in the registry or some place, but I'm not aware that actually happens and I can find nothing online that says that it does, so I'm very confused.I don't know if this would work, but, using WinPE, or a live Linux disc, you might be able to completely delete all "System Volume Information" folders on your system and let them be recreated then as necessary. But I suppose that could also completely hose your system, so be careful and only proceed if you have appropriate backups available.Cheers and Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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