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What 11 years means in technology...
Posted 11 March 2014 - 10:48 AM
Hi Den, how would this compare in your eyes? CPU with integrated graphics vs. dedicated AGP video card?
A few more words would be welcome.
Posted 11 March 2014 - 10:09 PM
Sure. I still have a working GeForce2 MX 400, so I decided to run GPU-Z on it while I can. Then I decide to compare it with the latest video technology I have on hand, regardless of the wide differences in them. In a way, the GeForce2 (so, in fact the model preceeding the one I actually measured) is where it all began for modern gamers... So what really standed out for me is the comparison of lithography technologies, die sizes and transistor numbers. It's simply awesome! Actual capabilities are, in a way, just a consequence of those differences...
Posted 29 March 2014 - 10:19 AM
Edited by j7n, 29 March 2014 - 10:20 AM.
Posted 29 March 2014 - 03:34 PM
And, how about the 8088 processor and discrete ram chips that had to be plugged into sockets on the motherboard?
Now, that's a stroll down memory lane, at least for those of us old enough to remember it.
It's been a real chore, to keep up with all the hardware upgrades since 1980 when I built my first PC-XT,
and then got into the PC Building and Repair business.
Before that, I was a big time player in the Commodore 64 game. It's sure been a wild ride!
Edited by Andromeda43, 29 March 2014 - 03:36 PM.
Posted 31 March 2014 - 10:16 AM
Mendocino / Yonah-1M / Conroe-L / Ivy Bridge-DT
Intel 740 / ATI RS600M / nVidia GF119
A trans-atlantic speed test on the 400 MHz machine with 160 MB of RAM.
My motherboard and video adapter has a 'huge' pullable BIOS chip like that one above.
All these components are on the low end, but why not when their absolute speed has increased so many times.
Posted 31 March 2014 - 06:07 PM
I must say I miss the old days of HW
when I struggled with 550 MHz Intel Pentium, some of the rich kids had been buying AMD Duron that was about 1 GHz
while GPU, I had S3 Savage 4 Pro, while some started to buy Geforce 3 and Ati Radeon's
there were monthly tests by so many graphic cards in PC magazines it was always a pleasure to read them
havin 128 or more MB RAM was science
mother boards had 4-5 PCI slots
one had to be for audio card
one had to be for LAN card
one had to be empty because Windows had often problems mapping all slots to work correctly
one had to have 56k modem
it was a pride to have additional PCI TV card, so one can brag how he filled every slot with some tech stuff
today you get it all bundled integrated in motherboard
how boring !
Edited by vinifera, 31 March 2014 - 06:11 PM.
try Longhorn builds: 3718, 4029, 4066
Posted 31 March 2014 - 07:59 PM
I still have the TV card, which I use to receive FM radio, which is usable. The card's only decent application is that it can quickly (only the bundled software imposed the wait time) tune across all the VHF and UHF spectrum, but sensitivity is still disappointing, even with a long antenna, for interesting transmissions like Taxi. Of course the bundled software only allowed some pre-defined "channels". This is material for a good rant in another place.
Borg TV worked with this card very well. It has a neat, responsive GUI. A curious thing with this program is that it could apply some video effects without loading the CPU, and data going directly to the video adapter, like color adjustments and averaging in time for noise reduction. (The CPU was still 400 MHz and couldn't do it.) As far as I know, modern Pixel Shaders came much later. Had this card been more solid, it would have made a decent receiver.
Motherboars indeed may seem rather boring. Also because they are so standartized. Back when my PC was made, the mobo power connectors could be inserted in two ways, and so could USB (it does have usb 1), with disastrous consequences.
Decent sound cards and LAN cards are still hiding. The motherboard stuff is very consumer oriented, offering bling and "experience". From an add-in card I would expect some unlocked, hidden functionality, such as recording S/PDIF streams in any sampling rate, advanced signal routing.
Posted 01 April 2014 - 02:32 AM
Well, in my day, when I got my first computer I had to solder its components
.... and we liked it. (Kids today...) :
Would anyone now have the guts for it?
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 07:29 AM
Honestly it means nothing at all to me. Ten years and we still have the same problematic situations. Computers are still slow, and the products all have spyware built inside. I would escape to the 20th century and deal with those problems, then have something that is built for only five years.
About TV cards. TV cards worked great if you had the satellite dish to go with it. The big dish I am talking about that is used to pick up stations from, around the globe. I am talking about tv from around the globe. That was the only way to go. However cable tv, made it far more cheaper, to dodge bullets, then pick up stations on an over sized dish. It was funny because people who did abuse cable, could see when they were coming. You had them in their vehicles surveying the area, like the FCC tying to track down people overriding the air waves. TV was awesome back then.
Edited by ROTS, 03 April 2014 - 07:29 AM.
Posted 03 April 2014 - 06:47 PM
Yup, you would be happy with the 1kB expansion board, all black and white too!
Also based on that same Z80 used in the MSX 1 . Darn, I was 7 back then...
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