Jump to content

Welcome to MSFN Forum
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. This message will be removed once you have signed in.
Login to Account Create an Account


Photo

How big is windows 7 before installation


  • Please log in to reply
25 replies to this topic

#1
koden

koden

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 284 posts
Hi
 
I'm about to make my own win 7 with RT 7 lite.
 
Thats working fine..
 
I use my own win 7 x64 disk.
 
The files on that is 3.1 GB
SP1 I have downloadet is ca. 900 MB
So when sp1 is slipstreamed I have a 4 GB file.
 
But I have found some slipstreamet files on internet where the ISO x64 with sp1 only is 3.3 GB
 
is this because my win 7 disk have all versions build in and the one I found maybe only is win 7 standard?
 
I remember in old XP days it was possible to shrink the XP installation disk by removing some files that was not nessesary.
 
Is this also possible in win 7?


How to remove advertisement from MSFN

#2
jaclaz

jaclaz

    The Finder

  • Developer
  • 14,281 posts
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

I remember in old XP days it was possible to shrink the XP installation disk by removing some files that was not nessesary.

 

Is this also possible in win 7?

No :no:, there has been a paradigm shift with Vista :ph34r: and later.

Slimming/liting install discs now INCREASES source size by ADDING  some bloat to the source.  :whistle:

 

Come on :), that's EXACTLY the idea behind RT7 Lite :yes: (and other similar programs), just like nlite did for XP, these may be of interest to you:

http://www.overclock...-stripping-tool

http://www.msfn.org/...al-explanation/

 

As you might well be aware, the RT7 Lite site is down, so maiking use of the Wayback Machine might be needed:

https://web.archive....ww.rt7lite.com/

 

jaclaz


Edited by jaclaz, 15 March 2014 - 10:10 AM.


#3
koden

koden

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 284 posts

thanks a lot... just what i needed.



#4
vinifera

vinifera

    <°)))><

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 963 posts
  • OS:Windows 7 x86
  • Country: Country Flag

thats not true at all

I used RT7 lite for Win7 SP1 Pro

my install DVD is 1.52 GB in size


If you want true Windows user experience
try Longhorn builds: 3718, 4029, 4066

#5
koden

koden

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 284 posts

thats not true at all

I used RT7 lite for Win7 SP1 Pro

my install DVD is 1.52 GB in size

Oh yes it is... all I wrote is true and not a lie :-)

 

How can that be... 1.52 GB ??



#6
vinifera

vinifera

    <°)))><

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 963 posts
  • OS:Windows 7 x86
  • Country: Country Flag

It was more "not true" to jaclaz's post

hence why I wrote what I got with "liting 7"

 

as for result, I think your main mistake is that you use RTM and then integration of SP 1

I always find it better to use already integrated SP 1 in OS by MS as base source for editing

at least that way nothing wrong can happen unlike via integrating via other tools

 

as for slimming down, you can always chose what you really need and what not

I can give you my RT7 configuration if you want to check it out

 

but I noticed you use 64bit OS and I use 32bit one, dunno if ISO size has different outcome


If you want true Windows user experience
try Longhorn builds: 3718, 4029, 4066

#7
bphlpt

bphlpt

    MSFN Addict

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,797 posts
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

thats not true at all
I used RT7 lite for Win7 SP1 Pro
my install DVD is 1.52 GB in size

 

It was more "not true" to jaclaz's post
hence why I wrote what I got with "liting 7"

 
I think you misinterpreted what jaclaz said. The first part was just playful sarcasm:
 

No :no:, there has been a paradigm shift with Vista :ph34r: and later.
Slimming/liting install discs now INCREASES source size by ADDING  some bloat to the source.  :whistle:


While the very next line confirms that 'Of course it is possible to shrink the Win7 installation disk by removing some files that are not necessary':
 

Come on :), that's EXACTLY the idea behind RT7 Lite :yes: (and other similar programs), just like nlite did for XP, ...


Cheers and Regards


Posted Image


#8
jaclaz

jaclaz

    The Finder

  • Developer
  • 14,281 posts
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

Yep :), I found funny that the OP had already "found" RT7 Lite AND asked:

 

 

....

I'm about to make my own win 7 with RT 7 lite.

....
I remember in old XP days it was possible to shrink the XP installation disk by removing some files that was not nessesary.

 

Is this also possible in win 7?

 

it sounded to me a lot like ;):

I'm about to hit this new nail right on the head with my brand new hammer.

I remember that in the old times nails used to enter materials when hit on the head by hammers.

Does this still happen?

 

jaclaz



#9
koden

koden

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 284 posts

sorry for asking.. just forget it.



#10
jaclaz

jaclaz

    The Finder

  • Developer
  • 14,281 posts
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

sorry for asking.. just forget it.


No problem whatever :), it is only some perfectly innocent fun, sometimes things get written in a way that they can be read differently from their intended meaning.
 
jaclaz

#11
koden

koden

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 284 posts

I know and my english is not always that good..



#12
vinifera

vinifera

    <°)))><

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 963 posts
  • OS:Windows 7 x86
  • Country: Country Flag

I think you misinterpreted what jaclaz said. The first part was just playful sarcasm

 

 

my apology then

he sounds sometimes so serious :P


If you want true Windows user experience
try Longhorn builds: 3718, 4029, 4066

#13
jaclaz

jaclaz

    The Finder

  • Developer
  • 14,281 posts
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

I think you misinterpreted what jaclaz said. The first part was just playful sarcasm

 
my apology then
he sounds sometimes so serious :P


Hmmm :unsure:, you seemingly need one of these ;):
 
Spoiler

 
jaclaz

#14
videobruce

videobruce

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 189 posts

I have gotten it down below 1.6GB more than once using Unlocker after RT Seven expands the folders.

 

BTW, you don't need to slipstream sp1, you can get it with sp1 already slipstreamed from Digital River. :yes:


When not in use, turn off the juice.

Think of someone else instead of just yourself. There is far more to it than your utility bill.


#15
koden

koden

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 284 posts

hi

 

like the links in this thread?

 

http://community.spi...ows-7-sp1-media



#16
videobruce

videobruce

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 189 posts

Yes, but I have no idea what these "Media refresh" versions are.  :huh:
 
I have found it's better to extract the folders from the iso, save that in another folder, make copies to use with RT7 since it's faster when you have the program mount the O/S.


When not in use, turn off the juice.

Think of someone else instead of just yourself. There is far more to it than your utility bill.


#17
submix8c

submix8c

    Inconceivable!

  • Patrons
  • 4,263 posts
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

Yes. Those are all English. Look here for other languages -

http://www.heidoc.ne...ft/14-windows-7

Apparently, the Editions you do -not-want will need to be stripped out, since -all- versions are stored inside the INSTALL.WIM, which is how you would "shrink" the WIM without losing any functionality for the Edition you want. I don't do that, but prefer to use the Full DVD of the intended necessary Edition (even if it has unwanted Editions on it).

 

Media Refresh includes KB2534111, otherwise SP1 and SP1u are exactly the same.

http://support.micro....com/kb/2534111

 

HTH


Someday the tyrants will be unthroned... Jason "Jay" Chasteen; RIP, bro!

Posted Image


#18
j7n

j7n

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 283 posts
  • OS:XP Pro x86
  • Country: Country Flag
The sarcastic statements semeed perfectly plausible to me in the exponentially expanding Microsoft universe.

I used RT7 lite for Win7 SP1 Pro
my install DVD is 1.52 GB in size

What is the size on disk after installation (minus swap and hybernation files)? Does NT6 grow back to normal size again while in use, provided one doesn't apply Windows Updates? Serious question.

#19
vinifera

vinifera

    <°)))><

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 963 posts
  • OS:Windows 7 x86
  • Country: Country Flag

clean it was 3.6 GB's

now after 2 years its 3.8 GB's

 

i don't use updates


If you want true Windows user experience
try Longhorn builds: 3718, 4029, 4066

#20
koden

koden

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 284 posts

Yes. Those are all English. Look here for other languages -

http://www.heidoc.ne...ft/14-windows-7

Apparently, the Editions you do -not-want will need to be stripped out, since -all- versions are stored inside the INSTALL.WIM, which is how you would "shrink" the WIM without losing any functionality for the Edition you want. I don't do that, but prefer to use the Full DVD of the intended necessary Edition (even if it has unwanted Editions on it).

 

Media Refresh includes KB2534111, otherwise SP1 and SP1u are exactly the same.

http://support.micro....com/kb/2534111

 

HTH

seems not to be any ultimate version?



#21
submix8c

submix8c

    Inconceivable!

  • Patrons
  • 4,263 posts
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

Um... SP1u - English, French, Spanish. Did you even look? What Language do you want? You never said - I simply explained the SP1 vs SP1u difference and gave an alternative (and more complete) link.

 

You ARE aware of the EI.CFG "trick" (remove and all versions are available, just like Vista)? Did you also miss this?

-all- versions are stored inside the INSTALL.WIM
;)

Someday the tyrants will be unthroned... Jason "Jay" Chasteen; RIP, bro!

Posted Image


#22
maxXPsoft

maxXPsoft

    MSFN Master

  • Developer
  • 2,887 posts
  • OS:Windows 7 x64
  • Country: Country Flag

always a good place with languages http://www.askvg.com...bit-and-64-bit/


Download ++> Windows 7 + 8 Unattended DVD + App Installer + Services Disabler + Load All Button + XML Creator
Jump2Reg - Registry: - Oct 4, 2013 - Version 3.0.4 - 98, ME, NT, 2K, XP, VISTA, Seven, Windows 8+ and 32 or 64 bit

XP Unattended CD/DVD creator - Version 4.1.7
Sample xml + Setupcomplete + Add Right click .wim Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1

#23
submix8c

submix8c

    Inconceivable!

  • Patrons
  • 4,263 posts
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

For Ultimate (what the requestor specified) it (language) remains the same. But thanx, maxXPsoft, for an additional link to SP1 (not SP1u, but it only means a single KB won't be included - usually no biggie).


Someday the tyrants will be unthroned... Jason "Jay" Chasteen; RIP, bro!

Posted Image


#24
koden

koden

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 284 posts

 

Um... SP1u - English, French, Spanish. Did you even look? What Language do you want? You never said - I simply explained the SP1 vs SP1u difference and gave an alternative (and more complete) link.

 

You ARE aware of the EI.CFG "trick" (remove and all versions are available, just like Vista)? Did you also miss this?

 

-all- versions are stored inside the INSTALL.WIM
;)

 

Sorry... yes have looked off course...

 

maybe just misunderstod something.

 

ei.cfg :-) ? no whats that?

 

When I look at the link I find professional in all kind of language but no ultimate.

Do you mean that when downloading prof. ultimate is also in this?

 

I assume that language does'nt matter? You can always install language packs after?

But it's danish ultimate 32 and 64 bit i'm looking for.

Thanks for helping a amateur like me :-)

 

And maxxpsoft...thanks for direct link for someone like me :-)


Edited by koden, 09 April 2014 - 09:26 AM.


#25
submix8c

submix8c

    Inconceivable!

  • Patrons
  • 4,263 posts
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

Use Google

"ei.cfg" "windows 7"
for info on that. This definitely works on ENU, not sure about Danish. Fact: My Professional OEM (Refurbish) has all Editions on it. There should be five "install_Windows 7 <EDITION-NAME>.clg" files in the same folder.

 

I don't want to go any further with this. I gave you the info and search terms. I leave it to you to check it out as I have no desire to download approx. 6gb(+/-) of two Danish Pro ISO's to check for you.

 

HTH and C-ya! ;)


Someday the tyrants will be unthroned... Jason "Jay" Chasteen; RIP, bro!

Posted Image





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users



How to remove advertisement from MSFN