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Ok, so Microsoft finally got their head out of their asses and woke up, half way. It seems that Microsoft is finally introducing the classic Start Menu back into Winodows, which is a huge plus for Windows 8.1, AND providing the consumer the ability to run modern apps in a WINDOWED setting. However... Microsoft is failing to provide information about what the "ALL APPS" (ie: Programs, All Programs) link directs the consumers of Winodws 8.1 to. Does the "all apps" link push the consumer back to the poorly coded, annoying, and hated "modern start menu" and fill up the entire display, or does it tile and list all apps, WITHIN the Start Menu, as in previous versions of Windows?

 

I guess we'll see what the "all apps" link is all about, unless others have more information about this update.

 

 




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Of course - if it's not April's fool joke.(?)



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they always seem to invent crap

then revert back to original which was good  :whistle:

 

what does that tell about company that spends millions $$$ for user experience program  :zzz:

(give me that money, I'll spend it wisely  :lol: )


Edited by vinifera, 05 April 2014 - 05:43 AM.

If you want true Windows user experience
try Longhorn builds: 3718, 4029, 4066

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IMHO, everything they did with Windows 8 is ALL CRAP except its ability to boot fast and increased security. When they try to "improve" anything, they end making a million mistakes which end up in loss of features.


Edited by xpclient, 05 April 2014 - 07:50 AM.

Impossible to run NT6 without third party fixes.


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everything they did with Windows 8 is ALL CRAP

Self-evident. :yes:

to boot fast

Measurable and tested. :yes:

and increased security.

NOT measurable, still entirely to be proved/tested. :no:

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IMO Still really ugly



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Still more people become interested in using Win 8/8.1.  



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If it's released before Windows 9, and who knows what that looks like yet.


Edited by epic, 06 April 2014 - 11:24 AM.


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I fail to see how 8 is more secure when it leaks personal data more than any other win os before


If you want true Windows user experience
try Longhorn builds: 3718, 4029, 4066

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This is very good for now I will finally be able to search effortlessly on my dad's computer. The only downside is that windows 8 is still crap and less stable than 7 or vista.


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windows 8 is still crap

Self-evident. :yes:

and less stable than 7 or vista.

NOT measurable, still entirely to be proved/tested. :no:

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I don't agree that Windows 8 is crap, they have their problems but we shouldn't be so negative, if it is really crap then why do we use it? Anyway the lack of Start Menu is indeed the most serious of its problems - of course there are some solutions for it available (I personally use Start Menu X by OrdinarySoft) - and it is good that Microsoft eventually heard the opinion of their customers on this issue.


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and less stable than 7 or vista.

NOT measurable, still entirely to be proved/tested. :no:

jaclaz

 

 

For me I found it very unstable when trying to put a dvd in. Now I know that could be a driver issue, but

 

A.) I trust my dad with having proper and up to date drivers for he is very tech shabby .

B.) Never had the issue with windows 7 or vista when 7/vista was on that pc.

C.) I'm not messing with my dads work computer's setup.


Edited by Flasche, 12 April 2014 - 11:04 AM.

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I don't agree that Windows 8 is crap, they have their problems but we shouldn't be so negative

 

the **** thing has spyware written all over itself

metro was just another excuse to integrate IE even deeper into OS that is necessary

 

 

if it is really crap then why do we use it?

 

who is "we" ?


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who is "we" ?

 

 

The same people who used Microsoft Bob.


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The same people who used Microsoft Bob.

 

All 4 (four) of them ;).

 

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metro was just another excuse to integrate IE even deeper into OS that is necessary

 

Doesn't help that flash is integrated into it too :( .

 

 

All 4 (four) of them ;).

 

jaclaz

 

:thumbup +1


Edited by Flasche, 12 April 2014 - 11:05 AM.

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A lot of people use Windows 8 (me too of course). If you don't like it, just don't use it. Anyway you should respect those who do and their opinion and not insult them. :huh:


I always love Windows XP!


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Windows 8.1 is perfectly stable for me.  It runs for weeks on end, between updates.  I'm a software engineer and use it hard every day on a big system.

 

A few things are slower, most are about the same as Win 7.  A very few things are faster, but not by much.

 

There's really VERY little difference outside of the deleted desktop features, and whatever's happening on the Metro/Modern side (don't use it myself).

 

Honestly, the system seems about the same after the "Spring Update" as before.  No difference in performance, no difference in functionality that I see.  Certainly there's no new Start Menu, but who cares?  We have tools like Classic Shell now that are better than any version of the Start Menu Microsoft ever made.  We even now have Aero Glass so it's not such an eyesore.

 

XPClient's got it right:  "3rd party applications make Windows 8 my idea".  I'd add "and lots of reconfiguration" to that myself.

 

If you shut off / work around / avoid everything Microsoft's done to it since Vista it's not a bad system at all.

 

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I hate to admit it but I am converted to Windows 8.1 and I feel very comfortable with it after a little bit of tweaking, namely, OldNewExplorer, StartIsBack and Aero Glass, I still love Windows 7 and and 8 doesn't bring anything new that I really care about, modern apps are a bit of fun but I rarely visit the modern apps start screen, I think the only real improvements for me would be slightly better boot times, less RAM usage and I guess it feels a little quicker.



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Certainly there's no new Start Menu, but who cares?  We have tools like Classic Shell now that are better than any version of the Start Menu Microsoft ever made.  We even now have Aero Glass so it's not such an eyesore.

 

The average user would not know how to downloads these though. It just shows that M$ doesnt really care about the user that much. (for kicks and giggles read this http://articles.lati...-finds-20140304 )


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Has anyone updated, thoughts?

 

Is there a start menu?

 

So Microsoft is ending support to 8.1 if we chose not to update...  oh boy, I sure wish this were 400 A.D. era I'd be beheading neanderthals with joy.



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Has anyone updated, thoughts?

 

Is there a start menu?

 

So Microsoft is ending support to 8.1 if we chose not to update...  oh boy, I sure wish this were 400 A.D. era I'd be beheading neanderthals with joy.

 

I can see why. Windows 8.1 was supposed to be the start menu version from the getco. Windows 8 is tablet os, 8.1 the desktop os, and windows rt being the cellphone os.


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MAybe enough to get me to switch to 8 from xp x64 for  gaming since they re-neabled hardware accelerated audio.  Will have to see though, I am not optimistic becasue the guy was like "that customers want" Then said "some" customers want.  It just shows how disconnected MS is reality.  He had it right the 1st time.  No reason to try and back track and make mistakes.


Edited by oldskool, 16 April 2014 - 07:44 PM.


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MAybe enough to get me to switch to 8 for gaming since they re-neabled hardware accelerated audio.  Will have to see though, I am not optimistic becasue the guy was like "that customers want" Then said "some" customers want.  It just shows how disconnected MS is reality.  He had it right the 1st time.  No reason to try and back track and make mistakes.

 

Maybe he was refering to the few and fare between metro fans. (I personally like it :crazy: ... on a tablet that is :P "still dont find it great then")


Edited by Flasche, 16 April 2014 - 07:44 PM.

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