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POSReady 2009 updates ported to Windows XP SP3 ENU

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heinoganda - thanks.  But where do I go to download manually - these two?

 

Also, I am NOT getting emails when someone replies here.  But my setting is still to get emails.  Any idea?

 

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@ glnz

 

On WSUS Catalog can you download with Internet-Explorer:

 

http://catalog.updat...0 Posready 2009

1. WMP 11

2. WMP 10

3. WMP 9

 

http://catalog.updat...5 Posready 2009

 

Sorry, with the e-mail no idea! (I have no Abo from this Forum)

 

:)



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heinoganda - The MS pages are very slow.  Finally downloaded

X86-en-ie8-windowsxp-kb3058515-x86-embedded-enu_717559af98d947c349c9165b35e7dc3b7eb124b5.exe

but when I try to run it, my machine tells me it's a corrupt file.

Has now happened twice.

(I have IE 8.)

Any thoughts?

 

I think the other one worked - says I completed the setup wizard.

 

(By the way, I am having this problem on my good Dell Optiplex 755 with 4GB RAM.

I also have a slow Dell GX 280 with 2GB RAM with XP SP 3 for testing purposes only.  ALL the June 9 MS updates have installed without problem.  I don't know why my good Dell Optiplex 755 has had the problems with these two KB items.)


Edited by glnz, 24 June 2015 - 09:01 AM.

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@glnz

 

Downloading Update for IE8 should have the following size: 10.1 MB (10,608,368 bytes) Otherwise me the problem of very slow WSUS Catalog known best download the update again. Have you ever looked at whether software update KB3033890 is installed and/or "C:\Windows\system32" should at "wmp.dll" file version "11.0.5721.5293" exist? (Think you have Media Player 11)

file version by WM9 "9.00.00.4513" and by WM10 "10.0.0.4092"

by IE8 file "mshtml.dll" file version "8.0.6001.23687"

 

 

(The behavior is strange, hopefully not a hardware failure. Which anti-virus / malware protection programs do you have?)

 

:)


Edited by heinoganda, 24 June 2015 - 10:33 AM.


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I recently bought a SSD and want to do a fresh install of XP Pro on it. It's a Dell, and I have an XP Pro SP3 Dell reinstallation disc to use. But when I went to use Windows Update it said it no longer worked for XP or 2003, much to my chagrin. I tried using the POSReady tweak, creating a .reg file and merging it into my registry as I read to do, but it still didn't work. So did they do something to thwart this tweak now? Or maybe it doesn't work on a fresh install? Maybe there's a new tweak now that does work? I tried looking around this site but the info. was all spread around and it was hard to follow, and much of it was dated, like a year or more old. So I was hoping maybe someone could give me some current info. here in this thread and help me out here.

I know that for awhile using Windows Update manually didn't work, but if you set Automatic Updates up to download them automatically it did work. But that didn't seem to work now either, though I admit I didn't give it much time, I was impatient. Does this work?

Anyhow I'd really like to be able to run XP Pro SP3 (with all patches) on this SSD. I'd be much obliged if someone could give me some pointers on how I can make this happen.

Thanks for your time and attention. Oh, and I'd rather not have to use Microsoft Update. I don't need it. But I will if I have to. And I saw one possible remedy that includes using some software to find updates but it requires .NET Framework to work, which I absolutely loathe with a passion. I find it very bloaty.

Edited by lucid717, 26 June 2015 - 06:31 AM.


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heinoganda - for some reason, my earlier download of KB3058515 worked just now, I ran it, and Belarc shows it as installed.  Who knows?  Thanks.


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@glnz

In any case, the behavior of your PC is not OK, the hard drive, memory, power supply and the motherboard (any defective leaked and bloated capacitors) should even be reviewed. Maybe there are too many operating systems within a partition where not quite like. Remote diagnosis is difficult and one can only guess.

 

Many greetings from Germany  :)


Edited by heinoganda, 25 June 2015 - 01:50 AM.


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Okay I figured it out. Some Local Policy tweak I made was thwarting me. After that I set Automatic Updates to download updates automatically but let me choose when to install them. Within minutes of doing this it began downloading updates. First just 1, the one that is basically just the update to make WU work. Then a second time it downloaded a bunch, over 100 updates. I installed them then rebooted. But then after the reboot it wasn't working that way anymore. So I disabled Automatic updates and checked manually (using Windows Updates, not Microsoft Updates), and it worked. After installing all the WU's I wanted and rebooting I then applied the POSReady registry tweak and rebooted. Then I manually ran WU again, and viola... I see like 33 updates for POS Ready & WEPOS. But now my dilemma is which ones do I install? I thought I recalled reading a post in here where someone said not to install POS Ready & WEPOS updates, but only Server 2003 updates. Well... I didn't see a single Server 2003 update listed. They were all POS Ready + WEPOS updates. So if I read that post correctly that renders this tweak moot. Or do I have it backwards?... to install the POS Ready & WEPOS updates but not the Server 2003 ones? To make a long story short (too late)... which of those 33 or so listed updates should I install? There were like 3 optional ones too. Should I install all of them? Are there any I should avoid? Much appreciated.

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Which XP do you have? If XP SP3 (hence x86 or 32-bit) you should install the POSReady 2009 updates. Now, if it's XP SP2 x64 (64-bit), then you must use the 2003 SP2 x64 updates (and POSReady 2009 updates may hose your system).



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I use XP Pro SP3 x86. All of the updates said they were for both POSready & WEPOS... is that okay? Thanks for responding.

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Sure. If you're using XP SP3 (hence x86 or 32-bit) you can install all the POSReady 2009 updates WU finds for you.



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heinoganda - Thanks for your concern.  For what it's worth, speccy shows that everything is OK in my Optiplex 755 running XP Pro SP3.  Let's see what happens next month.


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For "#456 icon_share.pngpost_offline.pngw2k4eva Posted 28 May 2015 - 04:55 AM " --

 

FIRST PART OF THIS POST:

 

w2k4eva - Many thanks again for your time and detail.  There's a lot there for me to learn, and given my utter lack of experience in this area, I hesitate to do anything.

 

FYI - I did not do anything - did not try any CACL instructions at all, or anything else.

 

Is there any way I can try to do something without running huge risks?

 

Also, is there an XP version of this very interesting article you suggested:  https://support.micr...en-us/kb/947215 ?

 

Following that article, please see the txt file I have uploaded here.  It is a copy of a portion of my registry from what that article discusses - any thoughts?

 

SECOND PART OF THIS POST:  w2k4eva - going back to your post #456, you wrote:

 

 

The other interesting post is on page 4 of that thread, in the Susan Bradley reply near the bottom, with the screen shots. But instead of focussing on "anyUser" as she does, check out NT AUTHORITY\Local Service and NT AUTHORITY\Network Service - giving them Full Control solved it for me. Also I had to do this for the entire folder (I also propagated to all children while I was at it), not just the files ntuser.dat and usrclass.dat - doing just those 2 files replaced the 6 errors with a pair of eventID1500's but didn't completely solve it. And yes, the mystery profiles for Temp and TEMP.NT AUTHORITY went away on their own after a reboot once I fixed all the permisssions, I did not need to manually delete the temporary profiles.

 

Sorry for noob question, but how do I "check out NT AUTHORITY\Local Service and NT AUTHORITY\Network Service"?  How do I get there?

 

THIRD PART OF THIS POST:  Please also see my second attachment "Permissions for LocalService and Network Service", a Word doc with screenshots.  I am showing what I see under Properties for three different user folders, and maybe there's a clue somewhere.

 

Thanks.

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Edited by glnz, Yesterday, 09:50 AM.

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Is there any way I can try to do something without running huge risks?

 

Well, you had the answer in post #423 :

 

I will sometime soon

a] do a new total backup when CryptoPrevent is off, and using the Aomei Backupper Pro 2.5 Win PE disk only, and
b] then install an empty hard drive and do a Restore to that empty hard drive (again using the Aomei Backupper Pro 2.5 Win PE disk only) to first make sure I can even do a Restore at all.

Then, I'll try your suggestion above on the new hard drive.

 

Were you ever able to verify if this worked?

 

. . . .another thing you should do only after you have a good backup. Your plan to put in another disk and restore the backup on it, then work on the new disk is sound and safe. Don't try to get a shortcut... usually that's something one regrets afterwards. This is the sort of situation where Murphy's Law applies: so, one has to make sure nothing relevant may go wrong, and then nothing at all will. :)

 

What he said.
 

Also, is there an XP version of this very interesting article you suggested:  https://support.micr...en-us/kb/947215 ?

 

Not that I was able to find, nor any reference to one either. But since I saw 3 of the 4 listed eventIDs on my system it does seem relevant.

 

Following that article, please see the txt file I have uploaded here.  It is a copy of a portion of my registry from what that article discusses - any thoughts?

 

It looks like you have the same issue with LocalService and NetworkService as KB947215 illustrates for a "user" account (regkeys w/ ".bak", and RefCount nonzero) that we suspected based on the eventlog entries. But let's not edit the registry just yet...

 

Sorry for noob question, but how do I "check out NT AUTHORITY\Local Service and NT AUTHORITY\Network Service"?  How do I get there?

 

Your screenshots covered it for the profile folders. (I'm guessing the ones for TEMP.NT AUTHORITY will resemble the ones for NetworkService, since the TEMP.NT AUTHORITY.000 seems to mirror LocalService as suggested by the regfile snip. This leaves the TEMP one that I'm not sure how it pairs up).

 

THIRD PART OF THIS POST:  Please also see my second attachment "Permissions for LocalService and Network Service", a Word doc with screenshots.  I am showing what I see under Properties for three different user folders, and maybe there's a clue somewhere.

 

It looks like the permissions on the top level folder for these 3 profiles is okay. There may still be a problem with permissions on one of the child folders/files. In my case I took the sledgehammer approach and reset permissions for these plus all children; if you want to you could try to narrow it down to more specific folders/files.

 

But even that is not the place to start - the beginning really needs to be, first get the backup solution to where you know you can restore things if needed.

 

Second, I'm assuming that you have the same situation on both your "main" machine and your older "test" machine, not sure which one the registry and screenshots came from, but I assume they both match? And of course, any tinkering would start on the "test" machine...

 

After those two are settled, then for each profile you might look at the properties of file NTUSER.DAT in that top level folder - on the General tab, be sure the read-only flag is cleared, and look at the permissions on the security tab. The next likely suspect would be the file UsrClass.Dat in each profile's LocalSettings\ApplicationData\Microsoft\Windows folder, and/or each folder between here and the main profile folder. After that there is the corresponding log fie for each of these registry hives. As you can imagine, there's quite a few potential targets, which is why I took the sledgehammer method for my case.

 

The good news is that unlike most users, the LocalService and NetworkService don't need a lot of "personalization" so substituting the new profile from the default works okay as long as that default profile doesn't get corrupted. This is why there don't seem to be symptoms other than the event log entries.



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Pardon my interjection, but it seems that discussion of ".000" profiles is entirely separate for the POSReady topic. In my case, it wound up confusing me. :crazy:

 

Side note: I'm working on a friend's computer as we speak that wound up with a corrupted User Profile that by default created a Temp one. The PC got pretty fouled up (bad sectors). Said owner (his mother) wound up using the TEMP ones and now I'm in the processes of figuring out how to Merge Newest-To-OldestOriginal. IOW, the above posts (usually) indicated Profile Corruption (for whatever reason) and there's (generally) a way of "fixing it back" as long as you don't let it go too far.

 

Would it be possible to move the non-POSReady posts to a new topic?


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