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Hello, I'm Japanese 9x fan. (My english is wrong... )

Well, I have a question about patch/fix.

 

I found that the patch has been created abroad.

But, there isn't fix/patch for Japanese 9x users.

 

So, I think I should create fix/patch "myself".

 

However, I ask a question for that.

 

1. Complete update list doesn't exist?

-> I found http://www.mdgx.com/upd98me.php and http://www.msfn.org/...r-windows-98se/ .

    but these may be obsolete or stopped maintenance.

 

2. how to make "highly‐developed replacement" fix/patch? For example: U891711

 

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I have no clue, really.

 

However, I found a cross-reference for Languages here -

http://old.winpack.o...rnat_fixes.html

 

Please note that the one you specified is an UNOFFICIAL one! That means MS did NOT issue it but it was "assembled" by an MSFN (probably) member!

 

Using "web.archive.org" any MS Bulletin (e.g. http://www.microsoft...n/MS05-002.mspx) may be redirected to your language thusly -

http://www.microsoft...n/ms05-002.mspx

See the inserted Language?

Any Download -may- have the following changed (the appended language) e.g. -

&DisplayLang=en

-to-

&DisplayLang=ja

Any KB article -may be changed thusly -

anywhere "en-us" is in the website address just change to "ja-ja"

 

In that particular case (Q891711/KB891711), it specifically states that the Update would have to come from MS Updates. In other words, those listed as downloadable (if they still exist) were obtained (probably) by members and assembled accordingly.

 

Sorry, but that's the best it gets. You're WAY too late to get any help, since many/most downloads have been obliterated from the MS website, as is many/most articles/downloads for anything LESS than Windows Vista. You see, Microsoft is "cleaning house" right now.

 

HTH and, again, Sorry :no:

 

edit - and read this -

http://forum.deviant...ftware/1639753/


Edited by submix8c, 06 July 2014 - 04:34 PM.

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Oh, I made mistake..

 

Fix/Patch means unofficial patch.

I couldn't find how to make existing fix/patch.

 

For Example: MDGx didn't write how to make his patch.



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If the patch is simple, this might work:

 

Compare the patch to the original, then use a hex editor to make the same changes in the Japanese version.

 

Or compare the Japanese version to the original version, then use a resource editor to make the same changes to the patch.


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(sigh...)

As I had said the Articles via Web Archive says you MUST use Windows Update to get the fix. And MS Update for Win9x/ME is GONE!

See Web Archive (faq section) -

http://web.archive.o...lletin/ms05-002

 

Take a look here also -

http://erpman1.tripo...m/w9xmeupd.html

 

Also read this post and the following one.

www.msfn.org/board/topic/84886-the-complete-list-of-hotfixes-updates-for-windows-98se/#entry700843

 

IOW, the files are no longer available. Worse, they are "modded" (unofficially).

 

From my "copy" of the ANI Cursor fix README.TXT

 

The author of this fix prefers to remain anonymous.

INSTALL:
This Fix installs these 2 files into %windir%\SYSTEM [%windir% = usually
C:\WINDOWS]:
- Windows 98 SE:
USER32.DLL 4.10.2233
USER.EXE 4.10.2233

This is from the "U891711". Here is the topic -

http://www.msfn.org/...05-002-ani-fix/

 

There's -another- one (-entirely- different) called "KB891711" that runs as a "service". Contents are "KB891711.EXE" and "Q891711.DLL" (both inside the "fix" package" along with REG entries to cause the Service to run. And FWIW, (believe it or not) here's the link to this one (English)

http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/windows98-kb891711-v2-enu_27519b9f8157c1e9a52e443b0208e0e.exe

As you can see, there's a "generated" filename, so just changing the language won't "fix" the download. Note that this is the Windows Update website address.

 

In addition, if you look at this (Unofficial SE Service Pack)

http://www.htasoft.com/w98se_post_usp4/copy_of_sesp30b4-en.txt
You'll see this

3.0 Beta 1

+ Added KB891711, KB918547 files for only WindowsUpdate, but they are not active.

3.0 Alpha 1

! Replaced KB891711.EXE + Q891711.DLL with USER.EXE + USER32.DLL [U891711, 4.10.2233].

Basically, you're asking for Japanese versions of obsolete/modified Fixes. Generally speaking, we're -extremely- lucky to have access to English fixes (e.g. the last Autopatcher/UBCD). Unofficial 98SE SP3 is also -just- English.

 

HTH (although not really) :(


Edited by submix8c, 10 July 2014 - 01:36 AM.

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I "CAN" get official update for JP.

Someone wrote all official fixes. So, Current official fix/patch for JP is OK.

So, Official fix/patch (for JP) isn't gone.

I'm sorry for I didn't write it....

 

http://windows9x.no....windows98.shtml

http://astra.digi2.j..._1_win98_1.html

http://astra.digi2.j..._2_win98_2.html

http://astra.digi2.j...tfixes-no3.html

 

2. how to make "highly‐developed replacement" fix/patch? For example: U891711

I'll explain in different words.

 

I want to a create a unofficial update.

Because, there is no update for Japan.

If some update is diverted updates for XP / 2000, I can diverted from the Japan version the same way as it.

But, U891711 seems like It is the remodeling at the binary level.

And, I don't know how to make the "Time Zone Update".

 

I want to know how to create these "complicated" unofficial update.

(Incidentally, I know how to create rootsupd for 9x. )


Edited by nrusef, 10 July 2014 - 02:18 AM.


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Yes, as I said an -anonymous- person patched it. I only have the "patched" versions (AFAIK) so I can't help you on the Binary Compare. :( I'm not really sure if MDGx would be able to help you, but you could try (IM in MSFN or maybe try the eMail link on his website's main page).

 

As for the Time Zone Update, those are -strictly- Registry changes (AFAIKR), so just getting the English-Text fix and "translating" them to JA and reconstructing the Installer should do it. In fact, I believe :unsure: that one or two TZ Changes (TZEDIT.EXE does them) have occured since the "unofficial" ones listed in AutoPatcher. They're undoubtedly in the Unofficial 98SE SP3 though.

 

HTH

 

P.S. glad you found the JA fixes (the links).

 

edit - How long do you have to attempt to read an English topic? Some of your answers may lie within this -

http://www.msfn.org/...s-98se-english/

Another reference to "patches", with a couple of links which -MAY NOT WORK-

http://www.msfn.org/...for-windows-98/

In particular -this- one which has be -REMOVED- from MSFN (intentionally) by a Super-Moderator (do -not- ask why!) http://www.msfn.org/...-46-t88008.html

 

Also you say "complicated". The person/persons who ALTERED a given module usually does that with a Hex Editor and not a "patcher" (AFAIK). Bear in mind -most- "unofficial" fixes are not -altered- but simply modules from a -newer/different- OS (e.g. XP in the case of IE6SP1 fixes) that were simply "transplanted" into an Installer. Another example is using a WinME Explorer.exe (ref. 98SE2ME "patches").

 

EDIT2! This is the -latest- Versions I could find referenced on MS website and it says that this is a REQUESTED Hotfix: http://support.micro...om/kb/291362/ja

 

edit3 (sigh...) another reference to said Patched Modules (scroll through) -

http://www.msfn.org/...otfixes/page-17


Edited by submix8c, 11 July 2014 - 06:41 PM.

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English is difficult for me. but I really like 9x. I'll try hard.

I interpreted your post as a below.

  • U891711 is obsolete. ( Maybe I should not have mentioned this as an example. )
  • I can Binary Compare. But, Maybe I can NOT get original fix/patch ( You may say it many times, I found meaning at last. ).

I say that thing:

  • I think that current complete update list (instead of) is U98SESP3. This is wrong?
  • I said that "U891711 (and other) is complicated". But it may be wrong. I didn't investigate it, yet.
  • I will ask question to MDGx.

Thanks.

 

edit:

  • Can I create All current Update by reference to U98SESP3? (Question 1 replacement)
  • I don't have to create the binary level? ( In fact, Question 2 is no problem? )

Edited by nrusef, 11 July 2014 - 10:31 PM.


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Hi,

 

I have quit Windows 98 development a long time ago, but I do know how I translated some English hotfix files to Dutch language using resource hacker. Later I switched to Restorator as Resource Hacker broke some binary files in the translation process. For 16 bit files I used Exescope. And finally for some stuff I ended up using a hex editor.

 

I used IExpress from Windows XP to build the Service Pack. I do have saved the project files to build the Dutch Windows 98SE Service Pack, so if you need specific information I probably can still provide some.


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No, I didn't say "U891711" is obsolete. The quote I gave (above) even says "Alpha->Beta", Alpha being the "patched" and the "Beta" says "added, but NOT active". Yes, without the "originals" there's no chance of Binary Compare to detect what was 'patched". Again, MS said "HotFix BY REQUEST" and ALSO said "Download via Windoes Update" (WHICH -IS- OBSOLETE!).

 

Member Acheron is probably your best bet, assumeing it's -just- the Language Text that needs changed in the "Unofficial".

 

Also, bear in mind what I said about -many- "unofficial KB Fixes" came from -newer- OS (as in the XP IE6 fixces and the WinME Explorer examples I gave).

 

Yes, you -may- use the Fix List from the "Unoffical SP3' (see link to Topic) -and/or- the List given (that you found in the first place). You may need to compare the Lists to determine if you have -all- of them, bearing in mind that the USP3 is a "repackage" and noting that AutoPatcher is not, -but- does contain Official and Unofficial (incl. "patched") in individual Packages. This link -may- help (English files).

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HTH and do take Acheron's offer of Language Mod assistance. :yes:


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>Acheron

I've read your post. OK.

 

talking about 891711

I misunderstood Q891711 and U891711.

I'm very sorry.... :(

U891711 is not needed.

Unofficial Windows 98/98 SP1 Animated Cursor (.ANI) + Icon Handling USER32.DLL + USER.EXE 4.10.2003 Security Vulnerability Fix

 

This Fix replaces ALL PREVIOUS Microsoft MS07-017 (Q925902), MS05-002 (Q891711) + unofficial (U891711) Animated Cursor (.ANI) + Icon Handling Security Vulnerabilities Fixes, which are now OBSOLETE!

 

but I couldn't get this fix...



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No, untrue! I specifically mentioned AutoPatcher and gave a link above. It's inside the package (all English). Hence suggesting that Acheron may be able to help with the Language Translation and Repackaging. What I -did- say was that the -originals- from MS are long-gone (they -appear- to be "HotFix By Request" and not generally available).

 

HTH (get the Autopatcher files, as I suggested and compare to U98SE SP3 list). I -suppose- I could get a full Fix List and upload it if you -really need it but by getting the Package (December 2007 Full -plus- the December 2008 Update) you'll have the whole set of English Updates in their Original or Patched/Unofficial forms. Again, U98SE SP3 is -not- individual Install files but made as a "Service Pack", qute different packaging.

 

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nrusef, it's just an idea but please try to contact blackwingcat which is also a japanese member active here at MSFN, as he might offer some hints related to modifying system files. Admittedly there is a certain language barrier between English and Nihongo so we may not always understand (correctly) your desires. Gomennasai!






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