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Windows/Microsoft Update Not Working on Windows 2000/XP/2003

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i reformatted my harddrive around march 3rd/4th and ran into the problem with the "microsoft update" website, again, when i tried to install the windows-updates..

 

several other people also noticed the problem with the "microsoft update" website when they tried to install windows-updates this past (march) windows update-tuesday..

 

replacing the "muweb.dll" file, version 7.6.7600.257, with version 7.6.7600.256, resolved the problem..


Edited by redwolfe_98, 12 March 2015 - 02:02 AM.

win xpsp3, "windows firewall", avira 14, SSM, RegDefend



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Is there any potential problem with just keeping the 7.6.7600.256 version of muweb.dll installed?

I rolled back to that version to fix the MU site when it first failed last November, but when it was apparently fixed at the other end I put the original version back.

Now  it's failed again I've had to revert to the older version again.

I'm thinking to just leave it like that now!

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There are also other issues with latest updates.

http://www.msfn.org/...ng-reboot-loop/


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There are also other issues with latest updates.

http://www.msfn.org/...ng-reboot-loop/

I will dare to guess that 2000/XP/2003 users would be not only unaffected but also pretty much indifferent by the troubles a Windows 7/Server 2008 update may cause .... :whistle:

http://support.micro...b/3033929/en-us

 

Article ID: 3033929 - Last Review: March 10, 2015 - Revision: 1.0
Applies to
Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1, when used with:
Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard
Windows Web Server 2008 R2
Windows Server 2008 R2 Foundation
Windows 7 Service Pack 1, when used with:
Windows 7 Ultimate
Windows 7 Enterprise
Windows 7 Professional
Windows 7 Home Premium
Windows 7 Home Basic
Windows 7 Starter

 

 

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That's not the only update, jaclaz. KB3033395 for Windows 2003 x64 is also faulty.

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My XP SP3 system (x86) with the POS registry change is having no problem with the KB3033395 update. It installed fine, shows up in my update history on Windows Update and does not keep showing up again and again on Windows Update to be reinstalled. This makes 11 months of of POS 2009 updates (May 2014 patch Tuesday through March 2015 patch Tuesday) applied to my XP system with no problems (except of course for the well known font corruption from the Feb 2015 KB patch).

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That's not the only update, jaclaz. KB3033395 for Windows 2003 x64 is also faulty.

Sure :), but the link xper posted, unless I missed it, is specifically about KB3033929 and about it only. :unsure: and as such unrelated.

 

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In case nobody noticed, Microsoft Update is working on NT 5.x again. I wonder how long it'll be before it breaks again.



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Good news!

So, should I replace muweb.dll with the "right" version again, or leave it as it is with the earlier version which will hopefully be insurance against future failures?

Any security implications leaving the older version?

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Is there any potential problem with just keeping the 7.6.7600.256 version of muweb.dll installed?

 

None at all. I'm keeping it in place, too. And keep a copy of v. 257 handy, just in case it becomes needed again, of course. :D



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Thanks den!

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I'm experiencing a curious defect with my XP pro SP3 (with the "POSready hack applied) :
automatic update notification & OS driven updates work, but Internet Explorer has become
unable to browse to the online sites, Windows Update (resp. Microsoft Update).



More details : until nov, 2014, I used to have automatic updates /de/selected, and visited the online
update site periodically (using IE6) to pick and install my updates.


For some reason then I tired and neglected to check for updates ...until recently.
When I got to try again, /something/ had changed (at Microsoft, or here, or both)
that it had become /impossible/ to access the online update sites using the browser : keeps redirecting
to an error page (kb2497281) which does not help solving the particular instance !


The KB advised installing IE8, which I did without changing anything to the issue : the Windows update
links (from IE or Start Menu) untiringly redirect the browser to that same KB error page !


The good news is, after much hair pulling, I installed /automatic/ updates (well, semi-automatic : notify but
let me select what to download) and, to my surprise, this WORKS ! I get a nice yellow shiel and am able to review,
select and install my updates. :=)


Yet, I'd like to sort out the problem with it being impossible to visit (browse) Windows update !


I can confim I have the lastest components of the updater.
Sorry I /can't/ remember whether I was opted in to "Microsoft update" versus "Windows update"
before the problem started. Actually, could it be part of the problem ? /maybe/ I opted for
Windows update the last time I used the web updating site (november 2014).


Any ideas ?

Edited by Ninho, 29 August 2015 - 05:45 AM.


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I'm not really undertanding you. Let's clarify something right away -

wuweb.dll - (WU) Windows Update = Windows Updates Only

muweb.dll - (MU) Microsoft Update = Windows Update + Microsoft Non-Windows Updates (e.g. MS-Office)

The second is where you would Opt-In, which is *supposed* to install the ActiveX (muweb.dll).

 

Have you read this whole thread?

What version of MUWEB.DLL / WUWEB.DLL do you have?

You can determine if you have them "registered" by -

1 - Start Internet Explorer

2 - Go to "Tools->Manage Add-ons" and change from "Addons Currently.." to allow ALL listed.

3 - Scroll down to find "MU..." listed and (possible) "WU..."

Remember the difference between the two.

 

Let us know after you've read the entire thread.


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Hi Submix8c, and thanks for chiming in !
Yes, I had read - but probably dot digested - the whole thread ,=)

I have /both/ DLL files sitting in the system32 folder, muweb and wuweb,
both reporting version 7.6.7600.257.

Internet explorer add-on management, Toolbars and extensions, Show All...
is showing MUWebControlClass, status : enabled.
It is /not/ displayed among "currently loaded" extensions however.


Does it make sense ? Please kindly suggest what I should try next !
Could it be the wuweb.dll is in need of a quick registerDLL32 ?

Edited by Ninho, 29 August 2015 - 01:21 PM.


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v2.57 of MU is (probably) the culprit, as has been stated in this thread. You'll need to find MU v2.56 (somewhere) to "get back to" a good starting point. You're "stuck" in MU and can't get back to (basic) WU.

 

See http://xdot.tk/

Note: there is a CABARC problem in the script (can't find it).

See this for "fix".

http://www.msfn.org/...e/#entry1106826

Basically, you can "rip out" everything but the WUA creation portion and you'll get the v2.56 of WU.

 

I'm a bit foggy on all of this, so here's an Attached Text note of a bunch of info I had saved.

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Before doing anything more complex try replacing just muweb.dll by version 7.6.7600.256.

Of course, to do it manually, you'll have to boot from either a LiveLinux distro or a Windows PE CD.

It's usually enough. Make sure to let us know what happened, OK?



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If "Automatic Updates disabled" these are set to "Notify me but do not automatically download or install". If the notification icon for updates on the taskbar appears then should the Internet Explorer from "Windows Update" or "Microsoft Update" function again. Then you can turn off Automatic Updates again.

 

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If "Automatic Updates disabled" these are set to "Notify me but do not automatically download or install". If the notification icon for updates on the taskbar appears then should the Internet Explorer from "Windows Update" or "Microsoft Update" function again. Then you can turn off Automatic Updates again.

 

I understand this is how it /should/ be - unfortunately, here, the notification icon does appear
on the taskbar (when applicable) but still no joy trying to go to the update web sites :-(

 

Before doing anything more complex try replacing just muweb.dll by version 7.6.7600.256.
Of course, to do it manually, you'll have to boot from either a LiveLinux distro or a Windows PE CD.
It's usually enough. Make sure to let us know what happened, OK?

 

I use FAT32 and have system file protection shut down, so switching system DLLs is real easy -
unfortunately it makes zero difference whether I use either version of muweb.dll (duly regsvr32'ed) !
Any attempt at accessing the update site in Internet Explorer redirects to the error page.

Oh well ! I'll leave it alone rather than break things again, since the onboard update applet it is now offering essential downloads for this system ! ... Who knows, it might even happen that the web version repairs itself as a side effect of some future update :=)

Thank you, and also Submix8c !

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Try running the Windows Update Troubleshooter.

This will reset everything on Windows Update and might kick it back into life.

You may well still have to replace the muweb.dll afterwards.

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@Dave-H : I don't quite like the threat of « After the Windows Update Troubleshooter is complete, your previous Windows Update history may be deleted ». 

 
I understand the WU history in question is stored locally on my computer. Would its deletion prevent subsequent removal of older
updates that might be necessary in the future, however implausible ?


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Yes, the Windows Update page will lose its list of updates that you installed in the past, but they should all still appear in Add/Remove Programs so you can still uninstall them, if they can be uninstalled of course, some can't.

You will need to have the "show updates" option checked there of course.

:)


Edited by Dave-H, Yesterday, 07:32 AM.

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Ran the MS Fix-it! tool. It reported all green, having fixed everything it found. However : this has changed /nothing/ :=) Internet explorer 8 can't go to MU/WU web sites, redirects to the same error page 2497281 as always... whether I try to go to the site directly from the browser, or using the link in the updates control panel applet. Giving up !

 

{Edit} It's OK, fixed now, see second post under this one.


Edited by Ninho, Yesterday, 09:52 AM.


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Did you replace the dll?

You'll still have to do that!

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Let me start with great news : everything's fixed; now !

The last problem which remained could be classified "PEBKAC", I suppose :

I had recently updated SRP (software restrictions policies) so Internet Explorer was

forced to drop rights even under my administrative account - this was preventing

the MS Update site from loading and causing the perpetual redirection, although giving no hint

of the true cause.

Seems I'm getting too old to remember what I did just a few weeks ago...

In my defence I'm also playing with setting up Seven in a VM at the moment,

it does get confusing at times.

 

Did you replace the dll?

 

 

The automatic fixit has restored the latest version (.257). Since it is now working, I'm leaving as is ...



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Glad to hear that you fixed it!

:thumbup

Interesting that it is working with the new version of the dll.

:)


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