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Install WinXP on Acer Aspire 3810T-354G32N, always bluescreen or black

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I try to install WinXP on a Notebook

"Acer Aspire 3810T-354G32N".

 

By trying this I get only trouble :blushing: .

Problem 1: The Acer doesn't have a floppy- or CD-ROM-drive, which makes booting difficulty. I can only boot from USB-stick.

 

I can prepare USB-Sticks with Rufus or WinSetupfromUSB to be bootable.

Problem 2: If I use Rufus, so the USB-Stick will not be bootable on the Acer.

 

But I can "solve" problem2 by using WinSetupFromUSB (I tried several Versions, 1.0beta7 and 1.4).

What I already did with WinSetupFromUSB:

- Made a USB-Stick bootable with FAT32 file format

- created a USB-Stick with WinXP-install-files; thereby the files were copied directly from a WinXP-install-CD, not from an ISO-file.

 

Then it is principially possible to boot from this USB-Stick; I get first this screen http://www.winsetupf...4s_001_QEMU.jpg and can select

the WinXP Setup. The setup at the first starts fine, but after loading FAT file system I get

- either a bluescreen with the 0x0000007B error (if I created the USB-Stick with WinSetupFromUSB1.0beta7)

- or a blackscreen with blinking cursor in the top left of the screen.

 

At http://www.winsetupfromusb.com/faq/ and http://forum.noteboo...pire-3810t.html there are described some workarounds. I have tried some of them:

 

1.) I have already tried a modified ntdetect.com Attached File  Ntdetect.7z   16.32KB   0 downloads, with no difference.

2.) I changed the BIOS setting "SATA MODE" from "AHCI Mode" tho "IDE Mode" and back, with no difference.

3.) I tried to select "Auto-detect and use F6 SATA/RAID/SCSI Driver" like described in http://www.winsetupf...uploads/2013/09, with no difference.

4.) I installed nLite on my (working) PC and tried to add following driver AHCI_Intel_8.8.0.1009_XPx86XPx64_A.zip, which also can be downloaded from Acer's website: http://global-downlo...BC=Acer&SC=PA_6.

But even 4.) had no effect :angrym: ! I get still the blue- or black-screen described above.

 

Maybe I did something wrong? I think I have added the driver not properly into nLite. Could it have something to do with the fact that I would need "text mode drivers" (or similarly)?

 

PS: I had to unpack the nLite ISO- file before creating the bootable USB-Stick with WinSetupFromUSB.

PPS: Here is the *.ini-file created from nLite Attached File  LETZTE SESSION.INI   5.4KB   0 downloads.




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2.) I changed the BIOS setting "SATA MODE" from "AHCI Mode" tho "IDE Mode" and back, with no difference.

 

That is very queer.

The 0x0000007b is "inaccessible boot device" and it is normally caused by a missing driver for the hard disk, but in IDE mode it should not happen, at least, not even on pesky BIOSes, when the modified NTDETECT.COM is used. :unsure:

 

Try again integrating the SATA drivers, after having read this:

http://www.msfn.org/...d-raid-drivers/

http://www.win-raid....W-k-W-k-CD.html

 

Would it be possible that for any reason you are providing a set of "wrong" drivers? 

(or that they were modified in a incompatible way by Acer or something like that)

 

Alternatively, you can try one of the "alternate" ways:

http://www.msfn.org/...ndows-from-usb/

if you can make a 7 PE of some kind, or even tty the good ol' USB_MultiBoot.cmd:

http://www.msfn.org/...ll-xp-from-usb/

 

Or try with RMPREPUSB in a more "manual" way:

http://www.rmprepusb...-xp-from-an-iso

 

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PS: I had to unpack the nLite ISO- file before creating the bootable USB-Stick with WinSetupFromUSB.

You don't have to. The ISO file is a packing of the working folder, so all those files did not need packing at 1st. Also you can skip "Make ISO" if you don't need the ISO, that 'll make you gain 1 minutes.

Any doubt the HDD itself? (What's the reason you reinstall at 1st?)



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The 0x0000007b is "inaccessible boot device" and it is normally caused by a missing driver for the hard disk, but in IDE mode it should not happen, at least, not even on pesky BIOSes, when the modified NTDETECT.COM is used. :unsure:

Here ist the whole bluescreen when using WinSetupFromUSB_1-0-beta7:
Attached File  0x0000007B.JPG   102.54KB   0 downloads
 

Would it be possible that for any reason you are providing a set of "wrong" drivers?
(or that they were modified in a incompatible way by Acer or something like that)

 

I downloaded them directly from Acer, finding the drivers by typing the serial number of the 3810T.
The guy at the link I've already posted http://forum.noteboo...pire-3810t.html used obviously the same drivers?! :unsure:

I read some of the links you posted; I think maybe there's somewhere the solution for my problem. Problem is that it's impossible(?) to find out the exact information about chipset from that Acer Aspire 3810T-354G32N because system analyzing tools won't run in MS-DOS.
 

Any doubt the HDD itself? (What's the reason you reinstall at 1st?)


Of course I can not exclude that de HDD itself is (physically) damaged in any way.
The reason for reinstalling ist/was malware; the previous OS (WinVista) was heavily infected. I recommended the user to use WinXP; he has no WinVista CD or USB-Stick.


But I have another new information:
I have accomplished it to install MS-DOS on the Acer! :yes:
Here the instructions (i.e. my way to proceed this):

1.) Create a bootbable USB-stick with MS-DOS. You can use any tool for that; I recommend HPUSBFW_v2.2.3.exe.

2.) Download Ranish Partition Manager v2.40 and unpack it onto the USB-Stick. You'll find a DOS-program part.exe.

4.) Copy the DOS-files format.com, xcopy.exe, xcopy32.exe, xcopy32.mod on USB-Stick.

3.) Boot the Acer from USB-stick.

4.) Start part. In the following screen (from Ranish Partition Manager) select Harddisk 2 (the internal HDD), delete all partitions on it, set the MBR to "Standard IPL", create a new partition, format it (it can be done in Ranish Partition Manager), and (important!) set the Boot flag for the new partition. Save the new settings with F2.
Exit now Ranish partition manager.

5.) Start format D:/Q/S. Here is D: the internal HDD, Q means "quick format", S is for installing MS-DOS files (from USB-Stick, which should be actually C:) to D:.

6.) Unplug the USB-Stick.

7.) Restart the Acer and set boot settings in BIOS to HDD. It shoult now boot MS-DOS from the internal HDD, which is now C:.


I think this could be a possible basis for installing WinXP directly from the internal HDD?! I could copy all WinXP install files to the internal HDD, boot from HDD and try to start the setup directly from it.
If this fails, so I can say that the problem is not the fact that I try to install from USB?!


Edited by diamant, Today, 06:17 AM.


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I think this could be a possible basis for installing WinXP directly from the internal HDD?! I could copy all WinXP install files to the internal HDD, boot from HDD and try to start the setup directly from it.
If this fails, so I can say that the problem is not the fact that I try to install from USB?!

 

Yep :thumbup, of course "been there done that" ;) here is the actual "howto":

http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=16713

JFYI that thread more or less originated, see also this:

http://www.msfn.org/...drive/?p=563654

the "whole" section:

http://www.msfn.org/...ndows-from-usb/

 

The current version of WinsetupFromUSB is however 1.4:

http://www.msfn.org/...omusb-with-gui/

http://www.winsetupf....com/downloads/

 

and hopefully it works "better" than WinSetupFromUSB_1-0-beta7 (and BTW also includes the DPMS drivers, so, normally you should not need to integrate your drivers).

 

The very queer thing as said is that you have the same result with the BIOS set to "IDE compatibility mode" (and if this is the case *any* "normal", "untouched" XP source should give not the 0x0000007b error - if not because of the NTDETECT.COM) :unsure: or, if you prefer, there must be something not related to the SATA driver integration if the result is the same 0x0000007b with the integrated source or with the "plain" one.

 

jaclaz


Edited by jaclaz, Today, 07:52 AM.






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