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dencorso

How to avoid being "upgraded to Win 10" against your will:

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i always love in their video blogs when they mention "our Telemetry shows"

which in other words is built in spyware & keylogger

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Thanks for putting this summary together, dencorso!

 

Cheers and Regards

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You sure about that?  I see them as additional feet in the door.

 

-Noel

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Some of those I've not seen on my Win 8.1 system.  They may be strictly for Windows 7.  You might want to split the list into two sections.

That's true. But for now I prefer keeping a single list, because other updates are for both OSes, too.

I did, however, put a sticky link on the 7 forum to bring intrested users directly to this thread. 

Added! Thanks!

 

only KB3035583 and KB2990214 are dangerous. The others are ok.

I respectfully disagree.  

 

You sure about that?  I see them as additional feet in the door.

+1 :yes:

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think what you want, but those 2 updates only upgrade to Win10. The Compatibility updates only update some Compatibility DLLs in Windows and this is NOT dangerous in any way *facepalm*

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You're smart enough to know that they could be slipping things into places that don't seem problematic.  Or have you decompiled the code to see what the changes are?

 

They've turned devious and predatory.  Everything we know about them from past experience is out the window.  Everything we think should be off limits isn't.

 

-Noel

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Well, maybe "dangerous" needs to be defined, or there are grades of danger.

"very dangerous" = "risking to wake up one morning with the stupid Windows 10 having been forcibly installed overnight"

"slightly dangerous"="something that might decide to open a port (or whatever) to transmit data to the good MS guys"

"not dangerous but basically unneeded"="something that provides not any enhancement or not any noticeable one"

 

So, possibly:

KB3035583 and KB2990214 = "very dangerous"

KB3021917 and KB2976978 = "slightly dangerous"

KB2952664 and KB3044374 = "not dangerous but basically unneeded"

 

jaclaz

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KB2952664 and KB3044374 = "not dangerous but basically unneeded"

 

 

(emphasis mine)

 

Though you feel confident in writing that, my point is that (unless you know something most folks don't) such a judgment is really not possible given what little we know - which is all being fed to us from the very same people we now eye with suspicion.

 

When Microsoft's focus shifted from providing value to users in return for payment to providing ad-supported software for free, it was more than just a trivial observation.  It actually is starting to affect us.

 

I've been called paranoid, but let's not forget that they're obviously trying to deliver these Trojan horse updates couched in deceptive language.  That's a fact so obvious it cannot be debated and it cannot be attributed to incompetence or language barriers or whatever. 

 

It ain't paranoia when there's actual evidence.

 

"Political correctness" and "societal conformance" would have us accept this new level untrustworthy behavior as the "new normal", without speaking up and being labeled an extremist.  But should we?  Where does it lead?

 

Never forget we are all akin to frogs in a pot of water.

 

-Noel

 

 

P.S., Jaclaz, I'm not being in any way critical of your judgment or what you wrote, specifically.  But it helps to make my point that this is a bigger issue than mainstream public opinion is acknowledging.

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Is there a difficult part in "maybe" or "possibly" highlighted by the use of the "unsure" :unsure: emoticon? 

 

From experience, MagicAndre1981 :thumbup (ok, he is not perfect, as he actually likes Vista ;)) knows very well where his towel is :yes: and as well Dencorso is usually far from being paranoid :no:, so I was just trying to see if by chance they were both right at the same time by reviewing and slightly redefining the definition of the adjective used.

 

jaclaz

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Unfortunately, no one CAN be "right".  Without a project to decompile Windows and look in every dark corner, it's simply impossible to know.  All we have is FUD.

 

How (and why) do you think a company like Google developed the slogan "Don't Be Evil"?

 

Is it possible some (actually) Good Microsoft people migrated there some years ago after seeing what they were being directed to do?

 

-Noel

 

 

P.S., I liked Vista too.  I just don't think it was better than Windows 7.

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"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you," as the good Mr. Heller once put it very aptly...

I do think an appropriate level of paranoia is a requirement to avoid annoyances galore. 

 

P.S., I liked Vista too.

So, you're not perfect too... :P ...but, then again, who is?

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I'm far from perfect, but that has nothing to do with Vista, which was a fine system when tweaked, augmented, and tuned up.

 

-Noel

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I'm far from perfect, but that has nothing to do with Vista, which was a fine system when tweaked, augmented, and tuned up.

 

Sure :),  after having applied - one year later - Service Pack 1 it actually worked ..., perhaps slightly better with SP 2 and some say even better with Service Pack 3  Windows 7.

But I have seen grown up men cry :w00t: back in 2007, and what has been seen cannot be unseen. :no:

 

@dencorso

The usual point of debate revolves around the fact that IF they were after you, they would have ALREADY got you. :ph34r:

 

@all

Maybe if you look at the half full glass :unsure:, the great advantage with the upcoming Windows 10 is that it is very convenient, you need to do nothing to update, no need to download huge .iso's no need to read lengthy instructions, no need to waste a DVD to burn anything, no need to reboot, the good MS guys will deliver it (no matter if you want it or not) overnight, whenever it pleases them to do so, and you will be greeted one fine morning by the sweet voice of Cortana .... you will be transferred in the new world of computing at no cost and with no hassles (maybe)....

 

Time for a new issue of the sci-fi magazine:

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jaclaz

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