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Building a Pentium 4 Windows 2000 rig for kicks... Need some advice

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I was able to get Jave 8 update 11 on but no higher.




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I was able to get Jave 8 update 11 on but no higher.

 
On Win2K, which I do not have current experience with but would be good to know, or XP, which I was referring to for MrMaguire's benifit?

 

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MrMaguire do you need some case badges because I'd be more than happy to order them for you



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Any leads to possibly installing java? :))

 

I released Java 6 u101 for Windows 2000 last week.

 

If you want to run application which compatible to recent Java,

Plz download jre-8u51-windows-i586.tar.gz and extract it folder and indicate java file.


Edited by blackwingcat, 20 July 2015 - 08:11 PM.

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I'm confused, what do you mean?



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As a first step you’ll want the download, and blackwingcat has provided a handy way to find such things on his site, by entering the following term in the Google search engine:

 

          BM site:jp blackwingcat + what you want

 

In this case you would enter the term

 

          BM site:jp blackwingcat jre-8u51-windows-i586.tar.gz

 

which will bring up the relevant page of bwc’s site, and the download link.  You may want to use the Bing or Google translators.



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That brought me here. http://www.microsoft...p/blackwingcat/



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When I enter the term “BM site:jp blackwingcat jre-8u51-windows-i586.tar.gz” Google search returns just one result (here is the direct link):

 

http://blog.livedoor...es/1894625.html

                                                                                               

That page includes the download link (click “Java SE Runtime Environment 8 – Downloads”) and instructions.  Here is the direct download link:

 

http://www.oracle.co...ds-2133155.html

 

 



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Using google translate, I translated the contents of BlackWingCat's blog to:

 

March 9, 2015
How to use without installing the Java 8 Update 40
"Java 8 Update 40" public, regular outside of updates -INTERNET Watch
Java 8 Update 40 came.

And it does not also not put in XP or Windows 2000, but it is a little time and effort to take out the MSI.

So, we'll show you how to use it without installing directly.

Java download for all operating system
Download site of the Japanese will go to English site because it does not use

Java SE Runtime Environment 8 - Downloads

jre
Download the jre-8u40-windows-i586.tar.gz,% PROGRAMFILES% \ Unzip the Java \ jre8 etc.

Then open the Control Panel, such as Java 6 and 7

jre1
From the run-time version, choose Add.

jre2
Found.
Choose to complete

jre3
I was able to successfully added.

If you want to start the JAR is, in the case of CUI-based bin \ java.exe -jar [jarfile] .jar
In the case of GUI-based bin \ javaw.exe -jar [jarfile] .jar

In even to start it is OK · ω ·



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P.S.. Thanks for the link. When I copy and pasted the same thing into google for some reason it turned up no results.



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I have the file downloaded and extracted.



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Update:

 

Cloned W2K installation to 60gb Samsung MSATA SSD. Going to use this new 1TB drive as a data drive paired with a 256GB Samsung 850 pro SSD in a Windows 10 computer I'm building this week.

 

Still waiting for the pentium D to come in, once I have that, the new RAM and cooler installed, I hopefully won't have to open up this computer for awhile. :)



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Pentium D 960 3.6GHz installed from Pentium 4 HT 3.8GHz... Had to go with the 130W TDP part because I couldn't find the 95w TDP part. Fret not, as I have purchased and installed a heat sink to address this that can handle 150W TDP AND doesn't require removal of mobo. That's done and I am typing this from this machine.

 

New RAM installed. Highest speed mobo can take.

 

Everything migrated to 60GB MSATA Samsung SSD.

 

Everything appears to be in order hardware wise here, and I don't plan on opening her back up for awhile.

 

 

I'm still trying to figure the Java thing out, I'm just having difficulty understanding what I'm being suggested to do. Thanks.



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MrMaguire do you need some case badges because I'd be more than happy to order them for you

 

Thanks for the offer, but I'm just gonna forget about it.

 

Tomasz86 is back working with Windows 2000. Apparently he's changed his web site around and is planning to release a new version of Unofficial Update Rollup. More info can be found in the thread linked below.

 

http://www.msfn.org/...31#entry1102435


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Cool, thank you for the information.

 

Do these developers have a page to donate to them for their continued work?



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Looks like BlackWingCat has a donation link on this blog/web site: http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/

 

I dunno about Tomasz86. Maybe you could ask him about that. I was hoping to donate some to both of them at some point. I know what Tomasz86 does is quite time consuming, and what BlackWingCat does can't be easy.



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Hey folks!

Very cool project.

I think blackwingcat was suggesting you use the Java 6 u101 release from his blog unless you needed the latest version.  I have personally found Java 7 to be the last version with sane security settings. Java 8 is "not tested to work with Windows XP" which is what I use, and you can't set the security level slider below "High" so there is no option to run things it doesn't like the signature of, even if you've used them for years and you know they're perfectly fine.  They warned they'd do it for years, but they finally did!  I think the security establishment just put a huge amount of pressure on them, but I'm not going to accept any update that removes user options and prevents me from my main purpose of installing Java in the first place — playing games like the eternal Tony's Teddy!



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there is no option to run things it doesn't like the signature of, even if you've used them for years and you know they're perfectly fine.

 

But there IS such an option - you just have to add each one to the exceptions list.
 



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If you use Java 6 u101, plz see security in detail option tab.

 

 

there is no option to run things it doesn't like the signature of, even if you've used them for years and you know they're perfectly fine.

 

But there IS such an option - you just have to add each one to the exceptions list.
 

 


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there is no option to run things it doesn't like the signature of, even if you've used them for years and you know they're perfectly fine.

 

But there IS such an option - you just have to add each one to the exceptions list.
 

 

 

Yes, perhaps you're right, but it's simply too much trouble.

In Java 7 or earlier, it will just ask me if I want to run the application and I say yes.  It doesn't make me go into the settings.  It's too far for me, and IIFC, the exception setting didn't even work properly for me.



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PaleMoon atom Edition can be customize with compatible to Firefox.

 

You can find some technical information it.

 

http://blog.livedoor...es/1897706.html

http://blog.livedoor...es/1897484.html

I also described it my blog

 

I'll check that out when I get the chance... Does palemoon support Firefox extensions? Will it support Unity Web Player?

 

Anways, I just ordered parts. As follows;

 

Intel D945GTP Motherboard, Micro ATX

Pentium 4 HT 672 Prescott @ 3.8GHz

4GB (4x1GB) PC5300 DDR2 667MHz

EVGA nvidia GeForce 7950 GT, 512MB GDDR3

SATA Seagate Barracuda 500GB HDD, year of manufacture 2013

Windows 2000 Professional SP4 New/Sealed CD + License

Antec VSK-3000E Mini Tower

Intel Inside Pentium 4 HT case badge

Designed for Windows 2000 professional / Windows 98 case badge

 

I'm sure I have a functional SATA DVD writer lying around, and I might pull a 3.5" floppy drive from one of the older computers to put into this one.

 

 

 

The board I won on eBay comes with 4GB of DDR2 444Mhz (4x1GB) that I'm replacing with 667MHz DDR2, and also comes with a Pentium 4 541 @ 3.20GHz that I'm replacing with the pentium 4 HT I mentioned above, if anyone is interested.


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For my Windows 2000 installs I:

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 - Run Windows Update and install everything (May need the newest Windows Update Agent and root certificates for this to work) [There's a thread here about getting Windows Update to work]

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Am I correct, that the word 'here' was supposed to contain a hyperlink?  I'm following the steps in your description of how to set-up Win2K, so much appreciated if you could share the link you've found, in reply to my post! :yes:

 

I was following instructions on a YouTube video, but the copy of Windows2000-UURollup-v11-d20141130x86 at the link posted there wiped out the contents of my \winnt\system32\config\system directory.  Strangely, replacing that directory's contents from a backup didn't work. 

 

So, I'm starting over and now I'm going to follow your links -- and hope for better results.



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There isn't supposed to be a hyperlink there, basically because I couldn't be bothered to find it at the time, but I had to later on anyways. :whistle:

 

Here is the aformentioned thread: http://www.msfn.org/...0-professional/

 

Basically, you need:

 

Root Certificates: http://www.mediafire...jj/rootsupd.exe

 

Windows Update Agent: http://www.mediafire...Agent30-x86.exe

 

And then Windows Update should work.

 

__________

 

 

As for Unofficial Update Rollup wiping that system directory. I have no idea, sorry.



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Here is the aformentioned thread: http://www.msfn.org/...0-professional/

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As for Unofficial Update Rollup wiping that system directory. I have no idea, sorry.

Thanks for the link.  I didn't even know that would be possble.

I'm going to use your rollup file in place of the other, from the YouTube link.  That's the directory that contains the Windows Registry, so this couldn't be happening for everyone. 







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