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RetroZilla: An updated version of Mozilla for Windows 95 and NT4 [2.0 RELEASED]

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All right. I fixed it.

 

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I wrote small program (.NET 4.0, so it won't work on 9X) which adds fixed background to all images in theme.

 

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You can download theme for default windows 95 colors, or use my program to put your color to background (use original classic theme, not modified one).

Theme: http://pionner.org/other/classic.jar

Program: http://pionner.org/other/bg.exe

Source: http://pionner.org/other/bg.zip

 

I suggest adding my "fixed" theme into program as one of default themes (named eg. Classic for 256 colors).

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All right. I fixed it.

 

VHVRb6k.png

 

I wrote small program (.NET 4.0, so it won't work on 9X) which adds fixed background to all images in theme.

 

Q6LRgzD.png

 

You can download theme for default windows 95 colors, or use my program to put your color to background (use original classic theme, not modified one).

Theme: http://pionner.org/other/classic.jar

Program: http://pionner.org/other/bg.exe

Source: http://pionner.org/other/bg.zip

 

I suggest adding my "fixed" theme into program as one of default themes (named eg. Classic for 256 colors).

 

OK, I can probably do that, I just won't set it as default, as users can set custom OS colors in Windows and this will override those.

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The latest versions of MinGW support C++11 and I've made programs with it that run under Windows 95. Granted, I mostly use C, so I have no idea how compatible the C++11 language itself is with Windows 9x.

 

I think a useful thing to try would be to borrow some code from KernelEx and use it to make a static library which implements functions missing from Windows 9x. That way, you could build newer software and link it with that library and have it run under Windows 9x without KernelEx. I'm not an experienced enough programmer to try this myself, but just a suggestion.

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As it stands currently, does Retrozilla (v 1.1) perform any differently (general website compability) than FF 2.0.0.20 on win-98se?

If Retrozilla development is continued, will it or could it attain performance capabilities that match or exceed those of Opera 12.02 on win-98se systems with Kex?

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Are you doing anything with it, or project is dead?

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On 29/01/2016 at 4:13 AM, timofonic said:
On 29/01/2016 at 3:27 AM, LoneCrusader said:
On 29/01/2016 at 3:05 AM, timofonic said:

What about talking with Pale Moon developers? If you are the maintainer, I would see possibilities they would accept to support older systems.

While I would love to see this happen I highly doubt it would even be given any serious consideration. We just had a battle with the PaleMoon developers over the ins-and-outs of Windows XP support, which they have all but threatened to drop (again) if too many people using a "hack" they disapprove of try to get support. Also I read a post over at their forum once by someone who wanted to run PaleMoon on 2K, and he was given the standard Microsoft-esque response (old, outdated, insecure, bla, bla, bla). I can only imagine the rubbish that would be said about supporting 9x.

I think things maybe changed since then. The Atom build runs under XP too.

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Why?

Why do you follow the mainstream way? There's rebels out there. Despite some may think, Pale Moon is a "rebel" project too.

The [highlight]rebel force[/highlight] is here dude: Go to grab the Atom flavor that is the official version for Windows XP now. :mrgreen: http://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-atom.shtml

They also replied about it and seem positive about 3rd party builds. But they are going to the C++11 route. Is possible to build C++11 for Win95/98?

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=76562#p76562

Uh, if you noticed, that thread was locked immediately afterwards.  Moonchild and Matt Tobin are DEFINITELY NOT interested in tailoring apps to older out-of-support systems.  Mind you, they're not really stuck on 8x and 10x either.  They seem to like Windows 7 the best.

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And I think the browser is dead. Shame, it was looking good.

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We were just guinea pigs. Ironically, I don't have any browser on my Win98 machine, so I'm at no lost. Another one bites the dust.

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I am pretty busy, and still trying to "figure out" the old Mozilla build system, as documentation is either limited or hard to find due to the new systems being so different. All I need to do to ship 2.0 is figure out how to merge a few extensions and then I can push it out.

Edit: I forgot to mention that February and March are two of the busiest months of the year at work and had little to no time for stuff like this. Now that I have some more time, I can work on RetroZilla more. So no, it's not dead. I am extremely sorry for not keeping you guys updated though.

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OK, I got the session restore feature added and working, and I was wondering if I should include an ad blocker, or just provide a download link for a version old enough to work with this Gecko version. What do you guys think?

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I'm glad you're back :)

I think the best way would be release the browser and put a website with compatible addons somewhere. If you don't have hosting, I could share a bit of mine.

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I would also suggest to release the browser as it is and maybe add some links to working add blockers in the posting then.
Thanks !!

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Sorry for the delay, but here it is.

RetroZilla 2.0

New Features

  • New Home Page: about:home.
  • about:changelog.
  • Session Manager and Crash Restore system
  • Updated internal URLs to reflect new website
  • Added Get Extensions link to Tools menu and Contribute link to Help menu

Bug Fixes

  • More "M" logos replaced.

Release Notes

This should be our last major features-only and rebrand release. Starting with 3.0, we will upgrade the Gecko core to be more compliant for the modern web. We would like to thank the developers of the Crash Recovery and Session Manager extensions for a platform to build on for our new Session Restore feature. Users who already have any these extensions installed are advised to remove them.

In the coming weeks, we will publish a few extensions to the new RetroZilla Extensions page. Such extensions include AdBlock and Greasemonkey. We may also provide extensions or GM scripts designed specifically to make newer websites compatible with the older Gecko version that RetroZilla uses.

As always, if there are any issues or feature suggestions, let me know.

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Starting my 98SE laptop right now to test it :)

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Works great - but the German language pack 'kills' it now. Too bad ....

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