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Sophy:

 

If you are interested, I posted instructions with pictures today in the Windows XP forum, on how to disable the nag screen:

 

http://www.msfn.org/...upport-vistaxp/

 

Otherwise, I'd highly recommend you dump Google Chrome and use Mozilla Firefox, Opera, or any of the countless others that still support XP and Vista.

 

It is rather strange for Google to drop Vista support even though Microsoft is still releasing security updates for at least another year!

Yes, I am interested and I thank you very much!

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I just did this and oh how nice not to have to worry about that irritating bar popping up anymore.


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Well, it seems the latest XPS 410 use the same hardware of the Dimension 9200... I'd rather believe in the Dell identification of the Service Code than on the manual. But I've been to Dell's site and I think the Card Reader driver offered should work on 7, in case it doesn't have the apropriate drivers natively. And if their nVidia GeForce 7300 LE 128 driver perchance refusers to install, a newer reference driver from nVidia certainly will work OK. It seems to me you won't have to worry about drivers, after all. The Logitech mouse too, in case you still use the mouse that came originally with the PC, and if needed on 7, may benefit from a a newer reference driver from Logitech.

Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to do this. I appreciate it.



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I just did this and oh how nice not to have to worry about that irritating bar popping up anymore.

 
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I would still highly recommend switching to Mozilla Firefox, Opera, or any of the many other supported browsers.
 
While my fix turns off the message, you will NOT receive further Google Chrome updates. 
 
Since Microsoft will be supporting Vista for at least another year, I don't comprehend Google's reasoning for dropping support this early.
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I just did this and oh how nice not to have to worry about that irritating bar popping up anymore.

 
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Since Microsoft will be supporting Vista for at least another year, I don't comprehend Google's reasoning for dropping support this early.

 

Well third party developers do not need to adhere to Microsoft support timelines.  Recent builds of Adobe Photshop do not support Vista x64.  And Google was only allowing the non-Aero build to run on Vista for the last while anyway.


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Afraid that fix I was so tickled about didn't work for me after all. Browser crashed, Eversync crashed. I had a box at the top of my settings page telling me some program had corrupted Chrome and they wanted to reset all my settings back to default. I tried just taking that little addition off that area under properties but it didn't work. 

 

To make a long story and several hours of work short, I ended up in a heck of a mess. I uninstalled Chrome used Geek Uninstaller, then reinstalled. Funny thing, since I did that I no longer get the warning bar.

 

If possible I'm going to upgrade to Windows 7. If not I'm not going to worry about it anymore. I have Firefox which I keep updated all the time; used to be my default browser. 



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@Sophy -
Please ignore all of that "Better to do a clean install".

While I (gernerally) agree, the fact is that you say you have all the software you installed on Vista and the keys (hopefully *not* on your HDD but on a CD/DVD or physically purchased at a Retail Outlet). In this case, why does it matter? An Upgrade will save you a lot of time and, provided you're stisfied with it, BOOM you're done. If not, then a Clean Install can always be done instead afterward.

As for the COA Key vs Keyfinder Key, that's normal, since the Internal (Keufinder) is used by OEM's to "roll out" mass-produced PC's. I'm not going into the details since the info is available on the WEB and is (nearly) pointless unless you have a Vista Install DVD (which you claim to not have) and the ISO files (DVD Images) are no longer available. Basically, out of luck.

The above is *exactly* why I informed you to see if there was an Option to "Create Recover DVD" in your Vista Start Menu paths somewhere. It's *also* why I was very adamant about getting (at minimum) the Running OS Partition backed up.

Now, about the Backup. Do this -
1- In the Start Menu Search Box, do a find on "CMD.EXE"
2- Right-click on what it finds and "Run as Administrator"
3- Enter this at the Prompt -
C:\WINDOWS\system32\diskmgmt.msc
4- You'll see the Partitions that exist on your HDD in the lower right
Please report back on whether you have more than one.
This is (somewhat) critical as there may be a Hidden (you can't see it in Windows Explorer) Recover Partition (to restore to Factory, i.e. when you pulled it out of the Packing Box and first plugged it in).
If so, then we *may* be able to (additionally) prepare a Recovery DVD from that. Also, it *definitely* should be Backed Up *and* the Master Boot Record (Physical Sector #0) since it will contain "special code" to allow for a Restore From HDD (see you Manual for how-to).

No point in going into technical detail about the above. Just do it and we'll go from there. ;)

Now, about those Drivers. The Upgrade/CleanInstall will install whatever Windows 7 has. It makes no difference. Dencorso is helping on that (any Drivers Windows 7 doesn't have on the DVD and you need to download and save on CD/DVD).

Again, you've come to the right place. Other forums may/may-not give completely accurate (legally) info. We do. :yes:

Busy yesterday, so didn't test Full (your) Scenario. I'll also install "Vista Service Pack 2" and maybe a piece of Software (for fun), Will test and give complete step-by-step instructions. I will say this - the previous Test seems to imply that this is the Anytime Upgrade (to Windows 7) option offered by OEM's.

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I have an nVidia GeForce 6200 (PCI) that gets recognized just fine in Windows 7.
Also be aware that many OEM's have many different models that have the exact same motherboard. Why you have an XPS manual as opposed to Dimension I have no clue.
http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B002N7S1A4
http://www.dell.com/...dimension-9200/
http://www.dell.com/...roduct/xps-410/
Only the Box and additional (external) Hardware will be different.

Carry on and I'll get back to this thread later.


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When I purchased this computer from Dell I researched online information and reviews and the XPS 410 is what I wanted. That is what I put into the search bar when I went to Dell. What I purchased was described as XPS 410. The book that came with it is titled XPS 410. That's all I know. It has been an excellent machine which is still running very well and I've often told others that I'm really gonna' hate it when this machine goes down.

 

I'm sure I have only one partition. See screenshot of results.

 

I have my keys stored on my Iomega (300 GB) external HD. This HD will work on my computer after installing Windows 7, I hope.

 

I know that I can do a factory install of Vista right from my computer because I've done it. It puts the computer back to the same way it was when it came out of the box. I've had experience re-installing programs. 

 

Driver: Microsoft Upgrade Advisor (MUA) told me to download an updated driver for Intel® 82566 DC Gigabit Network Connection. When I went to the Intel site and typed this in it said there were no updates. I contacted Intel and was told to download the Windows 7 driver for Intel at the link they provided. This was Network Adapter Driver for Windows 7* version: 20.4.1 (latest) Date: 10/2/2015. I have this saved to my external. Instructions were to install after installing Windows 7. This was the only driver mentioned in the MUA.

 

I located and copied by Drivers folder and saved it to my external. 

 

Backup: I have Genie Timeline 2014 (paid version) and I created a Disaster Recovery CD, so provided I did that correctly I should have a complete backup of my system. 

 

Product keys: I am still completely unclear when it comes to these product keys. I'm sorry but it just isn't making good connection.

 

On the tag attached to my machine I've got one 20-digit OEM number and one 25-digit product number. When I run Belarc and that other keyfinder I installed, those numbers match between the keyfinder and Belarc, but are not the same as what is on my machine. So when/if I get to the spot where I have to enter Vista numbers, what do I enter? What I read is that sometimes the numbers on the tag aren't right and that's why you need to run Belarc or a keyfinder to get the numbers which are hidden in the registry. 

 

Upgrade or clean install: That link that shows the clean install procedure seems pretty clear to me with those step-by-step pictures. I wish I could find something like that for the in-place upgrade. I fear I'll check something wrong ... 

 

EI.CFG: You asked me to do this way back. Do you still want me to and if so, what is my DVD reader? I've got two drives: DVD/CD-RW and DVD RW. Is it one of those you are referring to. 

Stick it in your DVD Reader and open the file in folder "SOURCES" named "EI.CFG". Use Notepad -or- copy it somewhere on your Hard Drive and rename it to EI.TXT. Post the contents and we'll confirm what you have.

 

This is what Dencorso wrote back on the drivers:

Well, it seems the latest XPS 410 use the same hardware of the Dimension 9200... I'd rather believe in the Dell identification of the Service Code than on the manual. But I've been to Dell's site and I think the Card Reader driver offered should work on 7, in case it doesn't have the apropriate drivers natively. And if their nVidia GeForce 7300 LE 128 driver perchance refusers to install, a newer reference driver from nVidia certainly will work OK. It seems to me you won't have to worry about drivers, after all. The Logitech mouse too, in case you still use the mouse that came originally with the PC, and if needed on 7, may benefit from a a newer reference driver from Logitech.

 

I'll wait to hear from you. 

 

 

 

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On the tag attached to my machine I've got one 20-digit OEM number and one 25-digit product number. When I run Belarc and that other keyfinder I installed, those numbers match between the keyfinder and Belarc, but are not the same as what is on my machine. So when/if I get to the spot where I have to enter Vista numbers, what do I enter? What I read is that sometimes the numbers on the tag aren't right and that's why you need to run Belarc or a keyfinder to get the numbers which are hidden in the registry.


The OS that Dell installed to your PC does not use the product key from the COA. This is the reason why MS had removed the Product Key from Direct COAs starting with Windows 8.
So its ok to take note of it, but you will probably use the product keys you found in the OS.
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submix8c: I hope you are coming back to finish leadig me through this! :o  :unsure: 



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Well, it appears that I've been dumped. I haven't had a response from submix8c for two days.

 

In the meantime I've been continuing to Google and read. I've also submitted a couple more questions to Ask Leo. I've made a decision to do a clean install. My Vista does have some glitches in it. There is nothing real major, just little things that I've either found a way around, or been able to ignore. But based on that I think it would be foolish of me to do anything but a clean install. Maybe there is a line of reasoning that I'm missing but I don't want to go through all this and then end up with a new system, with my old glitches or worse. If my backup program works like it's supposed to I will have an option to restore to what I have now. 

 

I'm ready to get going on this and I haven't heard any more responses so will wait a little longer, go through that clean install step-by-step process I got the link for, and then go forth I guess. 

 

P.S.

Just in case someone responds, I dug around and found a reinstallation disk for Vista that came with my computer when it was new. submix8c had asked me about that before and I didn't think I had one.


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Sophy. I didn't forget. Just been very busy.

Also trying to locate my backups (computer room is an A#1 jumbled mess). Seems I "lost" one and have to "convert" another to yours (please don't ask how).

 

Meanwhile, I'm glad you found your Original Dell Vista disk. That will be a lifesaver if you *absolutely* need to go back. Doing that will (maybe/probably?) be similar to a Clean Install of Vista. :unsure: Usually there's a crap-load of "Trial" stuff you'd have to uninstall.

 

Still, get you backups first and foremost. AFAICT, what I posted as an Upgrade should work. The only real difference is I went Business (which is basically Pro) to Pro (a Refurb/OEM DVD). You're going Home to Home (Refurb/OEM DVD).

 

I repeat, it's time consuming to back up your Data (pics, vids, documents, etc) and be *sure* you didn't forget something. Then to "clean install" (will mean wiping the HDD), restore it all, then go through the process of reinstalling all your Software, re-updating you Security Software, as well as re-updating all the other Software.

 

That having been said, *have* you backed up? *OR* done a Clone Backup (you said you had software for that). If so, by all means, procede to do an Upgrade (reboots galore), thus leaving everything already in place intact.

 

Just stick the DVD in, select Upgrade, let it do copy-over and when it wants Reboot DO NOTHING until it's all done, unless it asks for a response. *IF* you have the DVD as First Boot Device (in BIOS Setup) it WILL give a message to "Boot from DVD, preass any key"... DON'T TOUCH IT! EVER! You'll finally come to the last ReBoot where it asks for the Product Key.

 

That last part is where I'm not sure if you DO enter it, whether you'll have 30days to Activate vs 3days (when skipping the key). My post concerning my Initial Test (though rather lacking in full details) should still be good, either way (SkipKey or EnterKey). At this point you may safely remove the DVD (no harm leaving it in up until).

 

Apologies for the previous interjection, but that was nonsense/off-topic under the current circumstances (you HAVE the Win7 DVD and *want* to Upgrade). I also urge you to disregard all the "Clean Install" prodding due to above "Warning, Will Robinson, Warning, Warning! Data Loss Imminent! Time Warp Probable!"

 

You *do* have time before you absolutely *need* to "do something", thus providing opportunity for me to perform Final Test with Detail Steps. Sophy's Choice. (See what I did there?). Details for an Upgrade are nearly unnecessary as it *almost* "just works" without any intervention.

 

A word of caution. *Always* unplug your Network (wire/wired or just turn off/unplug your router/modem, whatever) or the silly thing will insist on going to the WWW before you're ready/finished.

 

Will check in tomorrow (and will still do the Test to satisfy my Key vs Nokey Activation period) and see where you're at. PLEASE post whether you have followed Rule#1 (backups) as you haven't stated as much. (Yes, you said so above.)

 

Edit (due to backing up several posts) -

1- Forget the Product Key - you have the Dell-Supplied Vista DVD. Everything is Self-Contained for Pre-Activation (your New DVD is not, hence Enter Key and Activate being required).

2- Dencorso has told you right about the Drivers. Don't worry about them. You should be good to get up-and-running (except you DID want the Network driver, minimum).

3- Forget Clean Install Link. You *will* have to use a special Command Prompt to prepare for it. Go for the Gusto.

4- EI.CFG - I simply wanted to CONFIRM that you Win7 DVD is indeed aht I believe it to be. Pop the DVD in, cancel (exit) the Autorun, go to Windows Explore, copy that file to your Documents folder, open it with Notepad, and Copy/Paste the contents here.

5- Your Screenshot was the wrong Command sequence. Do with the External (and any USB's disconnected)

... Diskpart

... Select Disk 0

... List Partition

-You will *probably* see only "Partition 1" listed *only*, if no others. If *any* more, let us know.

... Exit

... Exit

6- Your External HDD will undoubtedly function just fine. I have a WD-120gb USB that works just fine.

7- I can't say anything about youe Genie Backup, having never used it. Hope you did it right. :unsure:

 

(hope I covered everything *except* Final Test+Details)

 

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(QUOTE: I repeat, it's time consuming to back up your Data (pics, vids, documents, etc) and be *sure* you didn't forget something. Then to "clean install" (will mean wiping the HDD), restore it all, then go through the process of reinstalling all your Software, re-updating you Security Software, as well as re-updating all the other Software.)

My Vista has some existing hiccups that I've become accustomed to working around or ignoring, but I'd just as soon have a clean running system when I am done with this. A clean install would not carry along pre-existing conditions of my old system. I was gung-ho for in-place upgrade, but as this discussion has progressed and I have continued to do research, I've become more convinced that clean install is the way for me to go even if it does require more time and more work, and if I'm going to be honest with you, I still feel that way. 

 

In another area of reading I did it was stated that (QUOTE: If you want to be on the safe side do it from scratch.  It is the ONLY way to be sure no rubbish is carried over from the old operating system.) As I stated, the more I've read the more I agree with this because I do have rubbish on my Vista and I know it. 

 

(QUOTE: Forget Clean Install Link. You *will* have to use a special Command Prompt to prepare for it. Go for the Gusto) In all the reading and watching I've done about this, I haven't come across any instruction about a clean install requiring some special command prompt. What is that about?

 

(QUOTE: That having been said, *have* you backed up? *OR* done a Clone Backup (you said you had software for that). If so, by all means, procede to do an Upgrade (reboots galore), thus leaving everything already in place intact.)

I contacted Genie Timeline to ask them questions about the program in hopes of making certain that I will have a backup in case of emergency. They wrote back and gave me the path to a configuration file they wanted me to send, which I did. They confirm that I have my backup in drive L, which is my external HD, which is correct. They stated "we want to assure you that the restore process will restore your machine exactly to the state it was on when the backup was created."

 

(QUOTE: 5- Your Screenshot was the wrong Command sequence. Do with the External (and any USB's disconnected)

I went back to that post, copied it again and pasted in in command prompt and got what you were looking for. See attached screenshot. I couldn't get all in screenshot, but on down there are 2 flash drives and then it shows my Hoyle Card Games in my DVD RW drive.

 

(QUOTE: That last part is where I'm not sure if you DO enter it, whether you'll have 30days to Activate vs 3days (when skipping the key). My post concerning my Initial Test (though rather lacking in full details) should still be good, either way (SkipKey or EnterKey). At this point you may safely remove the DVD (no harm leaving it in up until).

I received a sheet with my Win 7 DVD that says to please read before installing. It states that on a rare occcasion your installation may not activate properly the first time. If that happens follow the steps contained "below" and the installation will be completed in 5 minutes or less. I am going to try and use my Epson scanner to scan this and then attach it here. I haven't used it before so might take me some trial and error. 

 

See screenshot: (QUOTE: EI.CFG - Pop the DVD in, cancel (exit) the Autorun, go to Windows Explore, copy that file to your Documents folder, open it with Notepad, and Copy/Paste the contents here.)

I did just as directed here and this is the error message I get when I try to attach. Error You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file

I copied it to my Documents, renamed it EI.TXT, opened it with Notepad and then used "Save as" to save to my desktop. I must be doing something wrong I guess. So I opened with Notepad and copied what was there: 

[EditionID]

HomePremium
[Channel]
OEM
[VL]
0
 
I'm back. I am going to attach a scan of that sheet of instructions I got with the CD. Also, I think you mentioned something back a ways ... that I could try the upgrade and could always go back and do a clean install with this disk. Is that correct? I ran Scan Disk on my Vista tonight and am going to run it again to have the environment as decent as possible. I am willing to try the upgrade if I can go back and do the clean install if things aren't running correctly. I hate to have a bunch of glitches because I am not a computer tech and I don't know how to tweek or fix these things. 
 
Another item: (QUOTE:  word of caution. *Always* unplug your Network (wire/wired or just turn off/unplug your router/modem, whatever) or the silly thing will insist on going to the WWW before you're ready/finished.)
On the YouTube video for in-place upgrade it shows about the first thing is to ask if you want to go online and get updates and it is recommended to do that. I can't do that if I've got my modem unplugged. And what does WWW mean?

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OK, we'll go with Clean Install. Some background first.

 

NOTE!

I've begun the Test Scenario and currently have an unactivated Clean Install of Vista Home Premium with SP1.

I'll proceed with the Win7 Install per your Clean choice and explain. Please wait for yet another scenario/choice.

 

To continue...

 

You have confirmed your DVD is exactly the same as mine except a different EditionID (shown in EI.CFG). :thumbup

 

Yep, you  have also the Recovery Partition. Here's what you have -

- Partition#1 - A "Special" Dell Boot Partition with so-called Utilities. They stink, IMHO, but it's necessary for Recovery.

- Partition#2 - The actual Recovery Partition. When you use a "special" Boot Sequence. Mine (was) "CTRL+F11" after initial BIOS Detection and during the Dell Logo. You have to be quick, otherwise you have to reboot. This boots you into Partition#1. You'll have some Options, one of which is Restore Your OS (or something like that). Then it flags *this* Partition#2 as the Boot and then Reboots to it.

- Partition#3 - Your Running Vista OS.

#1 is hidden from normal Explorer view. The "CTRL+F11" (for XP) flips a special Flag in Dell's Special MBR that allows for all of the nonsense. Here's some background. Also note the second link. It's specifically for Vista and uses the standard "F8" but nonetheless utilizes the same nonsense. My daughter had a similar setup on her "bought used" HP that some genius had put a bogus Windows7 on. I had to manipulate the MBR to get it to the Restore partition to recover her to the Original Vista. Go figure...

Scroll down to "Appendix" and observe the Notes.

http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/

This is how Vista works as opposed to XP.

http://www.goodells....lrestore/vista/

#2 (as stated) is the Vista Restore/Recovery one and (usually) all files/folders on it are "hidden". If not, no biggie. Observe the explanation in the second link above. Your Vista DVD (when you boot to it) will undoubtedly allow you to do either Restore From HDD (since the Recovery exists) -or- allow to do it from DVD -or- (having a completely wiped HDD) allow to restore JUST the C-Drive since the #1 and #2 would not be present. Dell (and other OEM's) don't (normally) allow for a Complete HDD Restore of all 3 partitions. This is how those characters get away with charging you for Technican Assisitance. Their methods are similarly used for newer PC's pre-installed with Windows7. UEFI (no need to explain, just extra info) on later Windows7 PC's have even *more* extra partitions. :crazy:

 

You seem to have you External HDD hooked up in the screen shot. No big deal, but you do *not* want it connect during Install.

 

Your second screen shot oddly implies what I had stated in previous scenario of *not* entering the Product Key *and* unchecking "Activate" during Initial Install. :huh: I say this based upon Point#2 where it literally says to type the Product Key (again if you already entered during install?). Not really sure why you would need to Activate By Phone? Be aware that "by phone" does work juts fine but is extremely tedious as it's all via Voice and is a real pain (been there, done that). If (when) you do that you'll see what I mean. ;) I also note the website link given. I (we) know about it. It's a somewhat reliable forum.

 

Clean Install will undoubtedly be by selecting "Custom". See Part#3 in this link (sceen shots included).

http://dellwindowsre...7-installation/

 

Edit#1 -

See this link for step-by-step (scren shots) Clean Install. Please note it references Retail Windows7.

http://www.sevenforu...indows-7-a.html

See this link for Activation (screen shots). Your picture says use Option#2. This may be bacuse it's OEM?

http://www.sevenforu...s-7-online.html

 

Please note that additional Option (I mentioned) of shrinking the C-Drive to provide space for Windows 7 Clean, thus retaining your Original Vista (all 3 partitions). The Windows7 would go onto Primary Partition#4. In this case, you *should* have the ability to Dual Boot your Original Vista (intact, all 3 partitions) *and* your Band Spanky New Windows7. I had mentioned this as an option in an earlier post.

 

The idea of Dual Boot is to allow you to ensure you've not lost anything important (pics, videos, music, etc, downloads, etc.). After you're absolutely satisfied you've transferred everything, you *should* be able to simpley delete the Vista C-Drive and expand the Windows7 into the free space thus giving all C-Drive space back (to Windows7). This will also allow you to retain the Parttion#1 (hidden) and Partition#2 (Vista Recover/Restore)in case you *ever* want to go back by manipulating the Boot Flag in the MBR (Master Boot Record) like I did for my Daughter.

 

If you *don't* want to retain the Original (on HDD), you *still* have your Vista DVD that would (in essence) put you back to a Single Partition Only Vista (Partition#1+#2 would not exist). Here's the simple way to Wipe Clean (destroy all Dell Partitions) And Install Windows 7 Only.

1- Set DVD Boot in BIOS and Boot to it (as explained in link)

2- After 1st Screen (entering Keyboard, etc) press "Shift+F10" and enter the following:

  > diskpart

  > select disk 0

  > clean

  > exit

  > exit

Now Reboot. You'll automatically be provided "Custom" as an option. Follow the Install Process (as describe in the link.

 

There's your Two Options for Clean Install. If you prefer the "Retain Vista on HDD" let us know and we'll help with the Dual Boot as I'm not sure how the BCD Store is constructed.  AFAIK, it should be automatic. I'll double-check that and get back to you.

 

Side note: Disregard the notation in links that says "Leave Network Cable Plugged In". You'll want to install that Driver and *the* plug it back in. I explained about completely disconnecting in a previous post.

 

DONE! and HTH... (and will be back for the "Retain Vista" option if you want that route...)

Whew!!!! :w00t:


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Not feeling so well and will have to get back to you a bit later, after I've had more time to try and absorb all this. It seems to be getting more and more complicated all time time. What about that link the seller provided for me. There was so much of all this stuff that wasn't mentioned. 

 

BTW, I know you are giving me a tremendous amount of time and effort and all through your own good and generous nature and I wand you to know that I appreciate it, so much.

 

I'll get back to you.



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No prob. It's not that complicated. It just *looks* complicated when you see the step-by-step (as given in links). I simply filled in a couple of "oops, missed that" parts. BTW, the seller wouldn't care about anything else because of "natural assumptions" and "You bought it, now it's in your court."

 

l8tr g8tr. And hope you feel better.


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Sometimes I think you are giving me too much information. I know this stuff all seems crystal clear to you, but in all honesty much of it is about as clear as mud to me. I think all the "background" links/material do nothing but confuse me. For instance, retaining drives and dual boot and all that stuff. You made things much more clear in this very last PM where you just listed the options with a simple explanation and left it for me to decide.

 

Your option 3b says I can wipe just the C drive for a clean install of Windows 7, while retaining only the Vista OEM Recovery Partition. Right? If so, seems to me that would be the way to go. Is this done during the install?

Reference: http://goo.gl/6YvKpT

Part 1, starting at 10 of 15

 

Part 3, 13 of 15 says: "I highly advise that you enter your product key here and choose to Automatically activate Windows when I'm online."

Seller says I should be given option of activating online or over phone and recommends phone. You say phone is nightmare and I should leave blank and click Skip. I'm wondering which is the most simple, fast and stress-free way to do this.

 

After it says the install is complete, I assume I should immediately install that Intel Windows 7 graphics driver I mentioned earlier .... Correct? 

 

I'd like to get going on this as soon as possible. I think I just have to do it because the more I read and search the web the more muddy and confused issues become. 

 

As always, thanks for your help. ;) 

 

I have been into BIOS. Seems to me the only thing I have to be concerned about is the boot sequence.  If this sequence isn't right, could you just tell me what it should be and I'll change it? Right now it shows:

1. Samsung HD

2. Onboard or USB CD-Rom Drive

3. USB Device

4. Onboard Sata HD (not present)

5. Onboard or USB Floppy Drive (not present)


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From my understanding. Vista has a migrate tool. However Windows 7 is not Vista. While they are both ( Windows NT 6.0 ) series. They are very different. If I was you I would keep the Vista, and just apply patch after patch, and continue to edit file settings.

A better question is "Can you upgrade from x86 ( 32 bit ) to x64 ( 64 bit ) operating system. Many processors are 64 bit but is running 32 bit operating systems. If I was you and really really needed Vista/7/8/9/10 for work I would go for the X64 bit operating system with a chip that is also in 64 mode ( whatever that is.


A 64 bit operating system ( in terms of windows ) is able to launch 32 bit code. Also 64 bit processors ( not two separate processors ) is and should be able to launch 32 bit operating systems. I was recently looking this up, as I just had to move my Vista to a new machine ( as the old one is not functioning normally ).

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Also...................Windows 7 home premium sucks. Because you are unable to access the root/true admin account. I think this is possible with Vista Home, but not 7 and up. You need something stronger.

Also there is the black screen of death which for some reason plauges all Windows after Vista. So far it have not happen to my Vista but to the Windows 7 home premium it is very annoying to deal with. Because there is no real way around it at all, because some Windows have it while others do not .
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Only thing I really hate about Vist is the Indexing.

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Thank you for responding, but I don't think the stuff you are writing about is pertinent to the information I am still needing. 

 

I am not interested in keeping the Vista and dealing with all the issues about non-support. I am not a computer guru. I don't even know what you mean when you talk about applying patches and editing file settings.

 

I am going from Vista 32-bit to Windows 7 32-bit. I have Windows 7 Home Premium on another computer and I don't mind it at all. 

 

Just waiting for the last bits of information from my helper so I can get on with this.



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Hrmmmm...

(and will be back for the "Retain Vista" option if you want that route...)

Now you're referencing yet *another* place! :crazy: Please don't as *you* are confusing *yourself* and it interrupts my instructions. Stick with what I give (inluding links).

Step#12 - DO NOT do it! This is for the TOTAL WIPE option I gave in the previous post. They went about it the hard way - one-by-one deletion rather than *my* method which is faster and does *all* partitions in one shot! Worse, the tell of a Non-OEM (i.e. Retail) "Clean Install" of Windows 7 and *not* going from Vista to Win7. IGNORE IT and regret you ever went there!

Again, the "FYI" links (in previous post) informs you of *special* Dell (and other OEM's) way for the purpose of Recovery/Factory. The lik you gave (and the Clean Install links I gave) are *not* for you if you go the "keep original Recovery" route.

Sadly, my daughter totally wiped her HP (Hewlett-Packard, different OEM) Vista Laptop HDD so I no longer have access to a scenario such as yours. What I *do* have is a Full HDD Backup Image (all 3 partitions, similar to yours) but it's Win7 Home Premium 64-bit (not 32-bit, like yours) that I *might* be able to double-check with.

I fear telling you "how to retain Vista Paritions #1 and #3 while Clean Installing Windows7 to Old Vista Parition #1" lest you go searching and get further confusing information.

I *will* tell you this -
The *theory* is if you simply format your C-Drive (Partition #2) and boot from DVD and do "Custom"/"Clean Install" to it that you *should* be able to use Paritions #1/#3 to put it back to Factory, thus overwriting Partition#2 (Which *would* have Win7 *but* you want to go back).

Side note - You're wrong! It's "Part 2, 13 of 15" and please not THIS little tidbit!

Enter the product key that came with your retail purchase or legal download of Windows 7.

Yours is *not* Retail, it's O-E-M (it says so in your EI.CFG). BIIIG Diiference!

Sit tight. And again, don't go searching anymore. Leave that to me (and my own personal tests).

(Seriously, I have some whack stuff going on right now, but I haven't forgotten you.)

 

To anybody else reading this thread. Just... STAHP IT! No more "stay with Vista" or any other such nonsense. Indeed, "opinion" is waaaaay off-topic. Either help with this *particular* task or go to an "opinion" topic. This isn't it. 'K, thanx. ;)


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