Windows XP is still king

[caliber]

On 7/12/2016 at 0:29 PM, Dibya said:

pos = 100% XP with junk removal

POSR 2009 is based on NT 5.1 or 5.2 like Server 2003 ?

[jaclaz]

28 minutes ago, caliber said:

POSR 2009 is based on NT 5.1 or 5.2 like Server 2003 ?

It is a build of Windows embedded ( it is 5.1), JFYI:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/171814-posready-2009-updates-ported-to-windows-xp-sp3-enu/?do=findComment&comment=1080982

jaclaz

 

[caliber]

thanks jaclaz. I have been googling for a while but the wiki sites do not show anything

it was launched in 2009 and thought it was able to format 3TB HDD and over....

[jaclaz]

2 minutes ago, caliber said:

thanks jaclaz. I have been googling for a while but the wiki sites do not show anything

it was launched in 2009 and thought it was able to format 3TB HDD and over....

Well, but that's allright since also Server 2003 cannot (the 2.2 Tb limit is in the 32 bit fields of the MBR "partitioning style").

You can use XP with GPT style disks, but you will need a third party driver capable of understanding the new format, see here:

http://reboot.pro/topic/18547-vhd-xp-setup-install-xp-in-vhd/?p=199566

for some info and a possible solution.

jaclaz

 

[vwestlife]

On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Dibya said:

Really , 89% Exploits occurs in nt6.x series.

I wanted to find more info to back up this claim, and I came across this:

http://techtalk.gfi.com/2015s-mvps-the-most-vulnerable-players/

In 2015, the operating systems with the most new vulnerabilities discovered were Mac OS X, Windows Server 2012, Ubuntu Linux, Windows 8.1, and Windows Server 2008. Windows XP didn't even make the Top 15 list.

Of course, Windows XP is still a vulnerable OS -- just as anything else is -- but this disproves the myth that once official Microsoft support ended in 2014, hackers were going to go crazy discovering and exploiting new vulnerabilities in XP, and users would be seriously at risk due to Microsoft no longer patching those vulnerabilities.

I wanted to dig deeper and find the real statistics about any new XP vulnerabilities that have been discovered since support ended in April 2014, and I came up with this:

https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/statistics-results?adv_search=true&cves=on&cpe_vendor=cpe%3a%2f%3amicrosoft&cpe_product=cpe%3a%2f%3a%3awindows_xp&pub_date_start_month=3&pub_date_start_year=2014&pub_date_end_month=11&pub_date_end_year=2016&cvss_version=3

According to the U.S. National Vulnerability Database, there were three new Windows XP Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVEs) discovered from April to December 2014, one new CVE discovered in 2015, and none so far in 2016.

Compare that to Windows 7, which had 30 new CVEs discovered April-December 2014, 147 new CVEs in all of 2015 (no doubt thanks to Microsoft's "Get Windows 10 App" nagware), and 126 new CVEs so far in 2016.

[Dibya]

We have posready patches nothing to worry.

[Dibya]

is it possible to partition 8tb hdd into four 2tb then xp may detect it?

[dencorso]

No! No way. No how. Not at all. Don't hold your breath. Nyet. Nein. 不.

BTW, what part of "No!" did you fail to understand?

12 hours ago, caliber said:

thanks jaclaz. I have been googling for a while but the wiki sites do not show anything
it was launched in 2009 and thought it was able to format 3TB HDD and over....

12 hours ago, jaclaz said:

Well, but that's allright since also Server 2003 cannot (the 2.2 Tb limit is in the 32 bit fields of the MBR "partitioning style")

[cc333]

^{Yeah, I believe drives bigger than 2 TB won't work properly on XP 32-bit (you might be able to use a 3 TB drive formatted as GPT on 2k3 Server 32/64, but I don't know).}

^{There are some things XP simply can't do anymore (it's sad, I know).}

^{By the way, maybe XP *is* safer, if that many fewer CVEs were found?}

c

[Dibya]

1 hour ago, dencorso said:

No! No way. No how. Not at all. Don't hold your breath. Nyet. Nein. 不.

BTW, what part of "No!" did you fail to understand?

I will break the limit anyhow.

if we can have 36bit pae upto 64GB and 37bit pae upto 128GB.

So what hell this hdd is .

I will try to contact Rloew.

Few solutions that worked for me

http://www.summersnowlegend.com/information-technology/use-3tb4tb-hdd-on-windows-xp-nin1

not bad also good solution is hitachi disk manager http://hitachi-gpt-disk-manager1.software.informer.com/2.0/

Best solution from gigabyte

http://www.gigabyte.in/microsite/276/3tb.html

video with proof

need more proof ?

Edited December 10, 2016 by Dibya

[jaclaz]

@vwestlife

Unfortunately, number of vulnerabilities discovered are rather senseless metrics, often used to shift the attention of people from reality.

What matters (and there is not AFAIK reliable data about it) are actual infections/numbers of compromised systems.

Usually 1/2 to 3/4 (or more) of the vulnerabilities discovered and published are non-vulnerabilities.

If you read the detailed description of them you will see how very often they require a complex set of specific situations that either will never happen in real life or include physical access t the machine.

Any and all vulnerabilities requiring physical access to the machine are  - in my perverted mind - not real vulnerabilities, as if there is physical access to the machine it is anyway "game over".

Remote ones start to be relevant, but only if they are actually doable in real life AND if they are actually used in the wild.

@Dibya

It is usually a good idea to study the problem before talking of things you are not familiar with, and also READ the resources provided.

There is no 2.2 Tb limit in the XP NTFS (the sector related fields in the filessytem are 64 bit anyway).

There is a limit in the MBR style of partitioning, this limit is 2^32-1=4294967295 sectors and XP - without a third party GPT driver - does not understand GPT.

4294967295*512=2199023255040 <- MBR style limit for 512 bytes/sector

4294967295*4096=17592186040320 <- MBR style limit for 4096 bytes sector (applies to "native 4k disks")

I would be curious however to have you describe which kind of "proof" does the video provide, besides promoting a possibly lousy third party program (certainly the technical description is well below any possible standards).

Since you seemingly used the thing presented with the video, you can anyway spend (in a new thread possibly) a few words describing it.

BTW, the "Hitachi GPT Disk Manager" is actually the already mentioned "Paragon GPT Manager", that is "simply" a GPT driver for XP, re-known, largely tested and working fine.

jaclaz
 

[Dibya]

I have heard posready has 512e driver (emulate 4k )

[jaclaz]

39 minutes ago, Dibya said:

I have heard posready has 512e driver (emulate 4k )

 

Yep, JFYI I heard that JFK was actually kidnapped by aliens and that all the Dallas thing was a cover up.

jaclaz
 

[Dibya]

1 hour ago, jaclaz said:

 

Yep, JFYI I heard that JFK was actually kidnapped by aliens and that all the Dallas thing was a cover up.

jaclaz
 

[caliber]

17 hours ago, jaclaz said:

Well, but that's allright since also Server 2003 cannot (the 2.2 Tb limit is in the 32 bit fields of the MBR "partitioning style").

You can use XP with GPT style disks, but you will need a third party driver capable of understanding the new format, see here:

http://reboot.pro/topic/18547-vhd-xp-setup-install-xp-in-vhd/?p=199566

for some info and a possible solution.

jaclaz

 

I have been testing Sever 2003 R2 SP2 (x86 and x64) are you sure it can't format 2TB+ hard drives ?

so Parangon GPT tool is the only way to keep using XP but I want to avoid using 3rd party tools.