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Tripredacus    285

This is also a problem on WES7e/p (Windows Embedded Standard) builds. Typically, clients wanting a custom Embedded image do not want updates to be installed, or for Windows Update to be disabled. The past week I've been working on two new WES7 builds to include updates and they both took on average 3-4 hours to complete the check. I had set WU to disabled and then just did Check for Updates, because there is no point in having it do the download since the updates are not added directly to the client.

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erpdude8    1
On 5/15/2016 at 1:19 PM, dencorso said:

@Yzöwl: Are you sure you've got the latest WindowsUpdateAgent?
You might as well update it, if in doubt. It's harmless, if not needed, you know.

That WUA app is v7.6.7600.320 for Win7 SP1, dencorso - that same package also includes v7.6.7600.256 for WinXP SP3, Vista SP2 & Win7 RTM/SP0 as I checked myself.

That did nothing to solve the WU problem and is kinda outdated; but this newly released KB3161608 Update Rollup of June 2016 is what actually fixed the problem - KB3161608 updates the Windows Update Agent app to v7.6.7601.23453 and is now the latest version for Win7 SP1

Quote from Microsoft support KB article 3161647 - the KB3161647 fix is included in KB3161608:

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This update contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1. This includes the following:
An optimization that addresses long scan time for updates that's reported on some computers.
Fix for a Windows Update error 0x8007000E on some computers while they are updating.
Some reliability improvements.

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Took Microsoft several months to finally figure out and resolve the WU problem on Win7.

Edited by erpdude8

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dencorso    531

Hi, erpdude8, long time no see! :hello:
Glad to see you around! :yes:

Thanks for the info:

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KB3161608 updates the Windows Update Agent app to v7.6.7601.23453 and is now the latest version for Win7 SP1

That one's an important update, for sure!

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bphlpt    104

Are there any things in KB3161608 that those of us who are choosing to hide updates might not want?  ie, is it "safe" tp install KB3161608 as is, or do we need to extract only the Windows Update Agent pieces of it?

Cheers and Regards

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dencorso    531

I'll look into it further quite soon, and report...

Later edit: Here's a list ow what's inside KB3161608... I'd sure be more confortable to recommend a standalone WUA...This rollup sure modifies a lot of low-level components, so a leap-of-faith (or good testing) is required.

 
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         codeintegrity_6.1.7601.23455
         csrsrv_6.1.7601.23455
         installer-executable_6.1.7601.23446
         installer-engine_6.1.7601.23446
         ncrypt-dll_6.1.7601.23455
         installer-handler_6.1.7601.23446
         lsa_6.1.7601.23455
         lua_6.1.7601.23446
         msauditevtlog_6.1.7601.23455
         ntdll_6.1.7601.23455
         ole-automation-legacy_6.1.7601.23452
         os-kernel_6.1.7601.23455
         rpc-http_6.1.7601.23455
         ole-automation_6.1.7601.23452
         rpc-local_6.1.7601.23455
         smbminirdr_6.1.7601.23455
         windowsupdateclient-activex_7.6.7601.23453
         security-credssp_6.1.7601.23455
         security-digest_6.1.7601.23455
         security-kerberos_6.1.7601.23455
         security-ntlm_6.1.7601.23455
         security-schannel_6.1.7601.23455
         smb10-minirdr_6.1.7601.23455
         smb20-minirdr_6.1.7601.23455
         windowsupdateclient-aux_7.6.7601.23453
         smss_6.1.7601.23455
         smss_7.1.7601.23455
         systemrestore-main_6.1.7601.23455
         windowsupdateclient-core_7.6.7601.23453
         windowsupdateclient-ui_7.6.7601.23453
         winsetupui_6.1.7601.23453
         windowsupdateclient-internalupgrade_7.6.7601.23453
         windowsupdate-adm_7.6.7601.23453
         ole-automation-asyncfilters_6.1.7601.23452
         advapi32_6.1.7601.23455
         authentication-authui_6.1.7601.23446
         boot-environment-windows_6.1.7601.23455
         bcrypt-primitives-dll_6.1.7601.23455
         cryptbase_6.1.7601.23455
         boot-environment-os-loader_6.1.7601.23455
         emb-boot-environment-windows_6.1.7601.23455
         emb-boot-environment-os-loader_6.1.7601.23455
         appid_6.1.7601.23455


 

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PROBLEMCHYLD    44

Thanks guys, I just created an Win 7 SP2 DVD using the Convenience Rollup and KB3161608. Windows Updates works with no problem now. This was a PITA and has been going on for a while. Thank God it's finally fixed.

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jaclaz    927
1 hour ago, PROBLEMCHYLD said:

Thanks guys, I just created an Win 7 SP2 DVD using the Convenience Rollup and KB3161608. Windows Updates works with no problem now. This was a PITA and has been going on for a while. Thank God it's finally fixed.

To be picky that is NOT a SP2 DVD (MS terms are already confusing enough, let us not add to the mess, if possible).

A Windows 7 SP2 will only exist when (IF) the MS guys will release a Service Pack 2, what you made is still a SP1 fully updated to June 2016.

jaclaz
 

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PROBLEMCHYLD    44

What if Microsoft is using the term Convenience Rollup to replace Service Pack????? IDK, just happy I don't have to download tons of updates. 

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jaclaz    927

The Convenience Rollup is very different from a Service Pack:
1) it is NOT cumulative
2) it needs - besides "itself" AND the previous SP1 - a specific update as a prerequisite
3) it is not "all inclusive", what is inside it is a subset (the most relevant) of updates issued after SP1

Calling it SP2 is - besides inaccurate - giving it a "dignity" that it completely lacks.

But if you are happy calling things NOT with their names, you are very welcome to do so, of course :).

jaclaz
 

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NoelC    1,364

Not to be picky, but there are multiple solutions proposed over there...  Which one did you find effective?   The highest upvoted one?

-Noel

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NoelC    1,364

Perhaps we have a language barrier problem... 

Your post points to a SuperUser forum thread with several proposed solutions.  They are not all the same.

For what it's worth I no longer have the slow updates problem, and I'm not looking at installing a fresh Win 7 any time soon, so I don't really care personally about the answer.  I was just trying to ask the question that might be in others' minds when they read your post.

-Noel

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