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Tsundere

Desperate to install/use Windows 7. Help

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5 hours ago, Tsundere said:

Win7 does not recognize other usb drives/externals either,

Which part dosn't detect a USB drive?


Does Windows 7 diskpart list a device?


Windows 7 setup won't detect a USB drive. Use another approach: WinNTSetup and enable native USB Windows 7

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20 minutes ago, cdob said:

Which part dosn't detect a USB drive?


Does Windows 7 diskpart list a device?


Windows 7 setup won't detect a USB drive. Use another approach: WinNTSetup and enable native USB Windows 7

-When I open command prompt during win7 setup and do diskpart, list disk. Also the windows setup interface itself doesn't detect any 'other' disk drive, except itself (the live usb, which i cannot install on)

-No

-Thanks, I will look into that

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24 minutes ago, dencorso said:

Did you try gparted live disk?

To do what? :unsure:

If the USB driver is not active (one way or the other) an USB disk will NOT be seen (and will error out if booted with a 0x0000007b) and without a suitable driver for the  controller *any* Windows 7 or PE 3.x won't ever see the emmc.

jaclaz
 

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You've got a point there. Well... next idea is "find a modded BIOS", which is much easier said than done, and eve then...

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9 hours ago, Tsundere said:

-When I open command prompt during win7 setup and do diskpart, list disk.

Well, diskpart.exe should list the disk first. WinNTSetup won't detect a disk too, don't try this currently.
Just curious: did you used a USB 2.0 port?

Next idea: integrate Intel USB 3.0 drivers to Windows 7 boot.wim, and use a USB 3.0 port.
Add and Remove Drivers to an Offline Windows Image: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825070.aspx
Does diskpart.exe find a disk now?

Or:
Attach a USB drive to the USB 2.0 port.
Open windows 8 device manger, change view 'Devices per connection'.
Navigate to your USB drive.
Which parent devices are listed between the USB drive and the pci bus?
There is a details tab at device manger:
can you list the HardareID, CompatibleID and inf name of each device?

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On 28.5.2016 at 9:03 PM, cdob said:

Intel Embedded Drivers for Windows 7
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24548/

User Guide for Windows 7 IO Atom E3800 MR4_PUBLIC.pdf
2.3.8 How to Install Windows 7 32-bit into SD and eMMC Storage Devices
2.3.9 How to Install Windows 7 64-bit on to SD and eMMC storage devices


Use section 2.3.8. Windows 7 32-bit works with default boot.wim.
Try this at CSM first. Be aware: this is exprimental, neither hardware manufactuer nor operating manufacturer supports this.
Edit iaiosd.inf in addition, insert the hardare id

[INTEL.NTx86]
;Baytrail
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\PNP0D40
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PNP0D40


Next step:
Windows 7 64-bit works with edited boot.wim.
Try both CSM and UEFI mode.

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On ‎30‎/‎05‎/‎2016 at 5:07 AM, cdob said:

Well, diskpart.exe should list the disk first. WinNTSetup won't detect a disk too, don't try this currently.
Just curious: did you used a USB 2.0 port?

Next idea: integrate Intel USB 3.0 drivers to Windows 7 boot.wim, and use a USB 3.0 port.
Add and Remove Drivers to an Offline Windows Image: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825070.aspx
Does diskpart.exe find a disk now?

Or:
Attach a USB drive to the USB 2.0 port.
Open windows 8 device manger, change view 'Devices per connection'.
Navigate to your USB drive.
Which parent devices are listed between the USB drive and the pci bus?
There is a details tab at device manger:
can you list the HardareID, CompatibleID and inf name of each device?

@cdob Sorry for the delay, please see the attachments

On ‎1‎/‎06‎/‎2016 at 3:54 AM, cdob said:

User Guide for Windows 7 IO Atom E3800 MR4_PUBLIC.pdf
2.3.8 How to Install Windows 7 32-bit into SD and eMMC Storage Devices
2.3.9 How to Install Windows 7 64-bit on to SD and eMMC storage devices


Use section 2.3.8. Windows 7 32-bit works with default boot.wim.
Try this at CSM first. Be aware: this is exprimental, neither hardware manufactuer nor operating manufacturer supports this.
Edit iaiosd.inf in addition, insert the hardare id


[INTEL.NTx86]
;Baytrail
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\PNP0D40
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PNP0D40


Next step:
Windows 7 64-bit works with edited boot.wim.
Try both CSM and UEFI mode.

Wow, this looks promising, I'll try it out

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Just a quick question, do you think those drivers are compatible with Celeron N2840? Because that is what my laptop currently has. Also, iirc, my win7 setup cannot really detect any files, even if they are on the live usb. I will try in a few hours and report back

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Tsundere-Chan, you need a profile picture! ;)

I'm a bit confused after reading everything; did you manage to install Windows 7?

If you have a hard time finding drivers; Offline driverpacks are a good gamble! Install software to mount the ISO (recommend WinCDEmu or something simple)
I would recommend downloading samsdrivers, after downloading put it on your flash drive! (It will need at least 11gb of space!) It may contain some Russian or certain text may come up funny after mounting it, but do not worry! Click snappy driver installer, then continue! Its your best bet if not using an online driverpack!

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@cdob

I tried the exact method you said and it seems like my Win7 setup environment didn't detect any removable media as usual (the pdf implies that it should), the only thing it detects (after clicking 'Browse') is X://Boot.

So I had an idea, and I slipstreamed the iaiosd driver into install.wim and re-made the live usb using standard procedures. Same results :(, still get the 'missing cd/dvd driver' error message and funnily when I browse in X://Boot, I couldn't find the driver files in system32 folder (even though I confirmed they were there in the mounting process).

I feel like the heart of the problem might be something to do with missing motherboard/chipset/whatever drivers, because the win7 setup environment can't detect any external devices at all (not even my wireless mouse/keyboard which works during BIOS menu lol).

On ‎3‎/‎06‎/‎2016 at 4:28 PM, ~♥Aiko♥Chan♥~ said:

I'm a bit confused after reading everything; did you manage to install Windows 7?
 

No =(

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1 hour ago, Tsundere said:

So I had an idea, and I slipstreamed the iaiosd driver into install.wim and re-made the live usb using standard procedures.

Windows setup are loaded from the file boot.wim
Slipstream the drivers to boot.wim.

Is the wireless mouse/keyboard connected to a USB port?
Can you disable the xhci mode at UEFI/CSM, to disable USB 3.0 mode?

Try slipstream the USB 3.0 drivers too.

The drivers goes to boot.wim and to install.wim.

The real cuplrit can be the UEFI/CSM.

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9 hours ago, cdob said:

Windows setup are loaded from the file boot.wim
Slipstream the drivers to boot.wim.

Is the wireless mouse/keyboard connected to a USB port?
Can you disable the xhci mode at UEFI/CSM, to disable USB 3.0 mode?

Try slipstream the USB 3.0 drivers too.

The drivers goes to boot.wim and to install.wim.

The real cuplrit can be the UEFI/CSM.

-The pdf seems to imply that they only are only needed at install.wim, but I will try it.

-Yes, and they are usb2.0 ports too. I can't find usb 3.0 drivers anywhere

-There is no xhci option whatsoever, and no usb 3.0-related option either I think. The sevenforums link has photos of my bios menu.

- I can't find usb 3.0 drivers anywhere, it doesn't sesm to be listed in my device manager or hp support site. But the laptop does have a usb3.0 port.

-I booted with csm mode (legacy/non-uefi). The iso was 32-bit and when I used msmg toolkit to create the iso, it asked for bios or uefi mode (while mounting the iso).

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1 hour ago, Tsundere said:

-The pdf seems to imply that they only are only needed at install.wim, but I will try it.

- I can't find usb 3.0 drivers anywhere, it doesn't sesm to be listed in my device manager or hp support site. But the laptop does have a usb3.0 port.

Why did you add drivers to install.wim initially?
The pdf describes to boot from boot.wim and load driver iaosd.sys manually. This failed.

If you integrate the driver to boot.wim, then the driver is loaded automatically.
May be a timing isssue. Then you don't have to load the driver manually.

Scroll back two days ago, there is a device manager picture: Intel USB 3.0 controller.
List the USB 3.0 controller HardwareID.

Does device manager list USB 3.0 controller, if no USB 3.0 port is used?
Did you connect the WD to USB 3.0 port or USB 2.0 port making the picture?
Make another picture, if a USB disk is connected to USB 2.0 only.

WD SES device is strange, parallel to WD My Passport.
Should not matter, but it's about booting: try another USB disks too.
 

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4 hours ago, cdob said:

Why did you add drivers to install.wim initially?

If you integrate the driver to boot.wim, then the driver is loaded automatically.

List the USB 3.0 controller HardwareID.

Does device manager list USB 3.0 controller, if no USB 3.0 port is used?

Did you connect the WD to USB 3.0 port or USB 2.0 port making the picture?

 try another USB disks too.
 

-Because I thought it was sort of equivalent to 'browsing' for the driver file in win7 setup. You also mentioned something about boot.wim not needing to be modified in an earlier post, so I just made a guess.

-Ok I will try this, but it will probably take another day or so.

-Please see image below. It must have missed my eye before.

-Yes

-It was connected to usb 2.0

-Ok

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