ppgrainbow Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 hours ago, dencorso said: Just for the record: I bought a true Windows 7 Ultimate FPP in the original box, complete but opened and having geographic Activation Restrictions, at a small neighborhood computer service store last month. I've then installed the MSDN x86-ENU 7 ultimate SP1u image on a new machine and then activated it using the FPP license I had just bought, straight from the card, and it just activated! No telephone call to MS was even needed! Yay! Good for you! I'm probably one of the unlucky customers who fell for a counterfeit Windows 7 Ultimate FPP and I'm still waiting to get my money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 7:04 PM, ppgrainbow said: I'm probably one of the unlucky customers who fell for a counterfeit Windows 7 Ultimate FPP and I'm still waiting to get my money back. Well, I do know how you feel. It happened to me once, too, when I was hoarding my 10 genuine boxes of XP x86-ENU FPP. It happens! However, a pop-and-mom neighborhood computer store is safer than eBay or Mercado Livre (a big South American competitor of eBay) inasmuch as one gets to physically inspect in person the actual item one is considering to buy, before doing so. For this type of item, pics are way lacking as a way for inspection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie32 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 2017-01-05 at 1:01 AM, ppgrainbow said: I don't think that I will be able to get it from where you are. OK...but why? The licenses are genuine...just not Ultimate retail...but as I said Windows 7 Professional OEM... I am prepared to help you if you like? bookie32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Retail and OEM System Builder can still be sold because they are physical items. A company can sell them with no issue. What they cannot do is offer for sale a new computer and have Windows 7 pre-installed on it. There are ways around it, if you are a VAR/SB you can sell a person a computer with blank hard drive, and then also sell them a System Builder Win7 and ask if they want it to be installed for them. Sure, this is ok, as it is post-sale favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie32 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Tripredacus said: Retail and OEM System Builder can still be sold because they are physical items. A company can sell them with no issue. What they cannot do is offer for sale a new computer and have Windows 7 pre-installed on it. There are ways around it, if you are a VAR/SB you can sell a person a computer with blank hard drive, and then also sell them a System Builder Win7 and ask if they want it to be installed for them. Sure, this is ok, as it is post-sale favors. Sorry, haven't we had this discussion already....one of the suppliers I use in Sweden is still selling computers with Windows 7 Professional pre-installed on them...with Windows 8.1 or 10 as an extra... bookie32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgrainbow Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 5 hours ago, bookie32 said: OK...but why? The licenses are genuine...just not Ultimate retail...but as I said Windows 7 Professional OEM... I am prepared to help you if you like? bookie32 I don't live in Sweden. That's why. I'm in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgrainbow Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 22 hours ago, dencorso said: Well, I do know how you feel. It happened to me once, too, when I was hoarding my 10 genuine boxes of XP x86-ENU FPP. It happens! However, a pop-and-mom neighborhood computer store is safer than eBay or Mercado Livre (a big South American competitor of eBay) inasmuch as one gets to physically inspect in person the actual item one is considering to buy, before doing so. For this type of item, pics are way lacking as a way for inspection. Well, if I still want to look on eBay, I have to be really careful on what I can buy over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 12 hours ago, ppgrainbow said: I don't live in Sweden. That's why. I'm in the United States. Sure. But there's a wonderful invention named "post". It moves things around the world for you, without your having to go along them. Have you ever heard about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie32 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 12 hours ago, ppgrainbow said: I don't live in Sweden. That's why. I'm in the United States. I did see where you live and was why I offered to help you....but I can't force you... and as dencorso said we have "post"... I am not in the habit of conning people if that is what is worrying you? bookie32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgrainbow Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 hours ago, bookie32 said: I did see where you live and was why I offered to help you....but I can't force you... and as dencorso said we have "post"... I am not in the habit of conning people if that is what is worrying you? bookie32 Well...in that case, I'm gonna eBay and PayPal regarding the counterfeit Windows 7 Ultimate product that I bought as a Christmas present and get my money back before the 45-day refund window expires on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 17 hours ago, ppgrainbow said: I'm in the United States. And you were also given not one but two possible sources to buy that thing from the US, both (Walmart.com and tigerdirect.com) "well known" and "reliable". jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie32 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 3 hours ago, ppgrainbow said: Well...in that case, I'm gonna eBay and PayPal regarding the counterfeit Windows 7 Ultimate product that I bought as a Christmas present and get my money back before the 45-day refund window expires on Thursday. Does this mean you will accept my offer to help? As I said before we only have Windows 7 Professional available and the link to the Ultimate I gave you I don't think I would trust it personally... You can let me know how you want to proceed.... As long as I am reimbursed for the cost for the license + post/packaging I have no problem helping you with your problem.... bookie32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgrainbow Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 8 hours ago, jaclaz said: And you were also given not one but two possible sources to buy that thing from the US, both (Walmart.com and tigerdirect.com) "well known" and "reliable". jaclaz I see what I can find. It's still possible to find retail genuine copies of Windows 7 elsewhere. Right now, I need to get a hold of eBay and PayPal to get a refund of the counterfeit Windows 7 product soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgrainbow Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 8 hours ago, bookie32 said: Does this mean you will accept my offer to help? As I said before we only have Windows 7 Professional available and the link to the Ultimate I gave you I don't think I would trust it personally... You can let me know how you want to proceed.... As long as I am reimbursed for the cost for the license + post/packaging I have no problem helping you with your problem.... bookie32 I'll see what I can find online. The copy of Windows 7 Ultimate that I still have was counterfeit and it was all a hit-and-miss situation where I would get scammed by one non-responsive eBay user. eBay takes counterfeit products very seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie32 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 16 hours ago, ppgrainbow said: I'll see what I can find online. The copy of Windows 7 Ultimate that I still have was counterfeit and it was all a hit-and-miss situation where I would get scammed by one non-responsive eBay user. eBay takes counterfeit products very seriously. That is OK by me... Yes, ebay do not take kindly to those that con others...not good for their image either... Just let me know if I can be of help.... bookie32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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