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Server 2008 Updates on Windows Vista

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JodyT    135

Like over on the Windows 8 Forums, it will be interesting to see (in one week we will know for sure) whether security updates and patches from the initial release of Server 2008 will be able to be manually applied to Windows Vista, on an ongoing monthly basis.  This would extend "update support" until January 2020.

Now I'm not going to spear-head the Vista initiative, but I still think it should happen, and I will be watching very closely.  I would think something like this would be top of mind for Vista users (I'm sure they'd both agree ... har har har :P )

Any takers?

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PRB    2
5 hours ago, JodyT said:

....Now I'm not going to spear-head the Vista initiative, but I still think it should happen, and I will be watching very closely....

Ditto! I've enjoyed continuing to use my XP with POSReady updates and hope something similar will be possible for Vista with the appropriate Server updates.

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JodyT    135

Has anyone attempted this today?  Just curious.

:)

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On 5/9/2017 at 4:29 PM, JodyT said:

Has anyone attempted this today?  Just curious.

:)

Yes. I have successfully installed the following (post-Vista EOL) Server 2008 updates in Windows Vista (SP2, x64):

KB4020535
KB4019206
KB4019204
KB4019149
KB4018927
KB4018556
KB4018885
KB4018821
KB4018466
KB4018271

Screenshot: http://prntscr.com/f602cl

From my testing, the following updates did NOT work on Windows Vista:

KB4018196 (Displays "Not applicable to your system" message)
Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool for May 2017 (Not compatible with your OS error message)

So it looks like Vista will be good to go until 2020, with the exception of a few updates here and there. I also must note that I didn't try any updates related to .NET Framework, as I couldn't figure out how to obtain them.

Alright @greenhillmaniac, it's time to make that Server 2008-Vista repository :cool:

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Added Microsoft Update Catalog links to each (compatible) update
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JodyT    135

Woohoo!  At least we have all of the Security updates.  Sounds great!

Hmmmm! Maybe I should go back to Vista - just for a short while ...lol

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JodyT    135

Posted the good news on the DM Vista Forum.  Let's see if this brings that forum out of the doldrums.  There were some naysayers regarding the ability to continue updating Vista.

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Clarification as to which forum I meant (not MSFN ...lol)
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VistaLover    41
20 hours ago, 2008WindowsVista said:

Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool for May 2017 (Not compatible with your OS error message)

I was dismayed to discover they were that quick to remove Vista Support from MSRT :( - I distinctly remember that on my (now decommissioned) XP SP3 desktop, WU continued to find updated versions of MSRT many months after XP SP3 was EOL'd... But given how swift they were to disable MSE on Vista after April 11th, I can't say I was surprised :angry: ...

So, Windows-KB890830-V5.48.exe wouldn't run on Vista; previous version Windows-KB890830-V5.47.exe (for April 2017) is the last that would... They have issued a statement, to be found on

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/890830/remove-specific-prevalent-malware-with-windows-malicious-software-removal-tool

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Note: In compliance with the Microsoft Support Lifecycle policy, MSRT is no longer supported on Windows Vista and older platforms. For more information, go to Microsoft Support Lifecycle.

 I suspect there now is a built-in OS version check that hinders v5.48 from running the scan on Vista ; I'll leave the task to the real experts (to query if it's even possible to lift that restriction), but as Vista and Server 2008 are both NT 6.0, I'm curious as to how they implemented it... I've never been much dependent on MSRT, so I'll not lament its deprecation on Vista...

Does anyone have any prior experience with Microsoft Safety Scanner ? Latest version 1.0.3001.0 doesn't complain when started on Vista SP2, but I haven't let it perform the scan yet :unsure:

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GTAGAME    7

Awesome! Now i can start creating monthly Vista isos that have the Server updates integrated. 

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2 hours ago, VistaLover said:

I was dismayed to discover they were that quick to remove Vista Support from MSRT :( - I distinctly remember that on my (now decommissioned) XP SP3 desktop, WU continued to find updated versions of MSRT many months after XP SP3 was EOL'd... But given how swift they were to disable MSE on Vista after April 11th, I can't say I was surprised :angry: ...

That might be related to the fact that XP SP3 had about 26% usage share at EoS time (and still today commands about 8% of it), while Vista has just above 1% usage share nowadays (= some 30 million users, tops). Obviously MS deemed the risk of leaving Vista without MRST too puny to justify the effort. :whistle:

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JodyT    135
3 hours ago, VistaLover said:

Does anyone have any prior experience with Microsoft Safety Scanner ? Latest version 1.0.3001.0 doesn't complain when started on Vista SP2, but I haven't let it perform the scan yet :unsure:

I think it uses the same current definitions as MSE or Defender, and does a system scan on your HDDs.  It works fine on XP and above (at least it did last spring).  Just a simple window with a progress bar.

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VistaLover    41
3 hours ago, JodyT said:

I think it uses the same current definitions as MSE or Defender, and does a system scan on your HDDs.  It works fine on XP and above (at least it did last spring).  Just a simple window with a progress bar.

Many thanks for the info :wub: . In my eyes, this looks like a promising replacement to MSRT that I could download and manually run every month...

To be on the safe side, I did create a Restore Point before letting it perform a quick scan; that took ca. 12min (I recollect MSRT taking somewhat less, perhaps 7-8 min), 0 infected files were found, so all OK :P  !

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burd    43
On 5/10/2017 at 4:34 AM, 2008WindowsVista said:

Yes. I have successfully installed the following (post-Vista EOL) Server 2008 updates in Windows Vista (SP2, x64):

KB4020535
KB4019206
KB4019204
KB4019149
KB4018927
KB4018556
KB4018885
KB4018821
KB4018466
KB4018271

Screenshot: http://prntscr.com/f602cl

From my testing, the following updates did NOT work on Windows Vista:

KB4018196 (Displays "Not applicable to your system" message)
Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool for May 2017 (Not compatible with your OS error message)

So it looks like Vista will be good to go until 2020, with the exception of a few updates here and there. I also must note that I didn't try any updates related to .NET Framework, as I couldn't figure out how to obtain them.

Alright @greenhillmaniac, it's time to make that Server 2008-Vista repository :cool:

Im working on this aswell unfortunately windows update catalog gives too many errors and is very slow. :(

Im currently working on two
KB4019109 (Not working,gives os error)
KB4014511 (Confirmed Working)

kb4014575(Confirmed Working)

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VistaLover    41

 Today (May 15th 2017) I hunted down and installed all non-security and security Windows Updates destined for Windows Server 2008 SP2 32bit (that were published after April 11th 2017) onto my Windows Vista SP2 32bit laptop; together with security updates for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2, this is how it looks in the "Installed Updates" section of my WU: 

May2017_postEOL.jpg.a7d5032372e0d7e7fbd47ab29e766979.jpg

Further updates for installed .NET Framework 4.6.1 (not officially supported on either Vista SP2 nor WS 2008 SP2, but still installable on both these OSes, see here) were also hunted down and installed:

NFW461_May2017.jpg.2f6cf90a40346a78e9d1f112287fc5f4.jpg

So far, everything seems to be working as expected... :P

@2008WindowsVista wrote:

> I didn't try any updates related to .NET Framework, as I couldn't figure out how to obtain them.

Well, my starting point for locating all Windows Updates is the following MS page:

Description of Software Update Services and Windows Server Update Services changes in content for 2017

This gets updated in chronological order, whenever new updates are published... You can isolate WS 2008 SP2 updates and via the KB links you can hopefully arrive to individual WUC links (and pray that the catalog site isn't crawling like a worm...). Hence, for updates issued after April 11th 2017 (Vista's EOL), I have written down the following list of updates:

April 18th

(nonsecurity) Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4015193)

May 2nd

Update for .NFW 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2008 (KB4020511)

Update for .NFW 4.6[.1] on Windows Server 2008 (KB4020503)

May 9th

Cumulative Security Update for IE9 (KB4018271)

Security Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4018466)

Security Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4018556)

Security Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4018821)

Security Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4018885)

Security Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4018927)

Security Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4019149)

Security Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4019204)

Security Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4019206)

(nonsecurity) Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4020535)

"Security Update for Windows Server 2008 (KB4018196)" does not install on (client) Vista SP2, because it strictly affects a Server function (Windows DNS Server Denial of Service Vulnerability in Microsoft Windows Server 2008: May 9, 2017); as for "Malicious Software Removal Tool  - May 2017 (KB890830)", it has already been discussed in this thread... :angry:

.NET Framework:

May, 2017 Security Only Update for .NFW 2.0 SP2, 4.6[.1] on WS 2008 SP2 (KB4019109) =>

[Security Only Update for the .NFW 2.0 SP2 for WS 2008 SP2 (KB4014575) & Security Only Update for the .NFW 4.6[.1] for WS 2008 SP2 (KB4014591)]

May, 2017 Security and Quality Rollup for .NFW 2.0 SP2, 4.6[.1] on WS 2008 SP2 (KB4019115) =>

[Security and Quality Rollup for the .NFW 2.0 SP2 for WS 2008 SP2 (KB4014502) & Security and Quality Rollup for the .NFW 4.6[.1] for WS2008 SP2 (KB4014511)]

NB: If you install the "Security and Quality Rollup" bundle, you need not also install the standalone "Security Only Update"; if you have not yet moved to 4.6[.1] and are still on 4.5.2, you should locate the corresponding updates for that version of .NFW !

For future reference, I will conclude by posting some helpful (to me at least) links (with the hope the mods do not mind...:rolleyes:) :

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And here it is! The most awaited Vista repository with Server 2008 updates (atleast for the few people who care about the OS).

Included in here are updates for both x86 and x64 architectures, and all versions of .NET available for Vista, from 2.0 to 4.6.1. If there's anything missing, do let me know.

https://mega.nz/#F!txxRyLzC!1vBMGzMHiL864f3bl1Rj1w

I would like to direct a huge thank you to @VistaLover and @2008WindowsVista, for testing out the updates, and listing them in an easy to copy way :)

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