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Antivirus for xp?

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On 9/20/2017 at 7:43 PM, i430VX said:

I use clamwin on all my computers. Very lightweight, but no real time scanning.

Clamwin + Clam Sentinel gets you real time scanning, and its still lightweight.

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9 hours ago, MikeyV said:

Clamwin + Clam Sentinel gets you real time scanning, and its still lightweight.

Hadn't heard of this before. Cool! :thumbup

 

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I have two desktop computers and one laptop all Running XP SP3.   For the past 4 or 5 years, I have been running Kaspersky Anti Virus (Not the full suite of software) on all three.   Kaspersky provides a license for up to 3 machines.   I have not experienced any malware or other harmful activity on any of my machines.   Kaspersky does fully support Windows XP SP3 and the only downside I ever experience is a slower bootup while loading the various processes.  I also have installed malwarebytes (free) which I use to scan weekly and malwarebytes anti exploit (stand alone).

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Don't know how I missed the topic...

On XP, I've been using Avira for the longest time. Somewhen around 2012 I got infected and, combining my memories with my current knowledge, it was a Sality or some other polymorphic crap. I asked for help on polish security-related board, and, after a cleanup, someone suggested me using Comodo. Version 5 was then the current one. I set up the Anti-virus heuristics and scanning to the most restrictive settings, tried to get on well with Comodo Defense + (Currently named Comodo HIPS) and their complex firewall... These tools required at least mimimum understanding of what and how runs on the PC, but I found out I like digging deeper into this. No infection after that point, so I might not be such a dumb student B)

Comodo was my AV, until some problems with signature updates occurred, not only for me - many netizens reported them, too. Someone tried to track them down on their forum, but after a few months without working signature update, I decided to drop Comodo 5 Antivirus. Going to higher edition was a no-go, because some of HIPS components caused BSOD on my machines, and running newer AV with older "rest-of-the-suite" didn't seem to be possible (not even mentioning sanity of such operation) I uninstalled AV component of the Comodo and installed Avira Antivirus again.

This lasted until Avira dropped XP support. Then, I made a minor research, and it turned out that the only free AV solution that supports XP, and will be supporting it within a predictable future was Avast!. I installed this beast, configured, turning off the things that might duplicate Comodo Defense+, and it runs until today. Not without issues, but devs were listening to the bug reports sent by XP users. My Last point of my stronghold is Malwarebytes anti-exploit, which I installed when it was a late beta, and runs until now (with minimal footprint). My PC didn't explode, despite it tried a few times.

Currently I'm thinking about dropping Comodo - old machine is used mainly by my relatives, who don't understand what Comodo pop-ups have to say, and replacing it with some whitelist based anti-exe. Avast and MBAE will stay.

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Antivirus is overrated. The virus writers are always ahead of the security firms, which means that until definitions are released, the potential to get infected is pretty easy.

I don't use AV on any of my ThinkPads, it hurts performance. I just use Chrome and Firefox, and never have been infected in all these years. My school and home networks are secured by firewalls.

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4 hours ago, sdfox7 said:

Antivirus is overrated. The virus writers are always ahead of the security firms, which means that until definitions are released, the potential to get infected is pretty easy.

I don't use AV on any of my ThinkPads, it hurts performance. I just use Chrome and Firefox, and never have been infected in all these years. My school and home networks are secured by firewalls.

For personal computers thats "really" personal use(i.e. not sharing with others), AV can be omitted.

But for shared computer, it is always better safe than sorry by running an effective AV.

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@roytam1

I agree that with shared computers and multiple users, antivirus is a good idea, because different users have different habits that could compromise security.

However, I also believe that antivirus provides users with a false sense of security. People with up to date systems with Microsoft patches may behave more recklessly online, thinking that they are invincible or protected against all exploits.

Those of us who continue to use Windows XP and other "unsupported" operating system likely take better precautions, because we understand the well-documented and potential vulnerabilities of running "unsupported" operating systems.

Also, running and maintaining legacy systems in this day and age usually requires a bit of know how and technical knowledge, but that condition is not necessary for people who buy machines off the shelf. Anyone can buy a Windows 10 machine off the shelf, and they could be completely technologically illiterate.

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I've always used Free Zonealarm, and I even paid for it one year a while back. Isn't there also another program, AVG, that you can get for free, but I think it is free for a limited period only.

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Malwarebytes still works on XP. Although it's super bloated; my T7200 laptop lost a lot of CPU and ram using it!

As antiviruses become harder to obtain on XP, luckily it's the same with malware. That's my favorite part of Windows 9x :3
Once I tried installing shady offers on my XP installation, the malware wouldn't even launch because I was missing updates!

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17 hours ago, ~♥Aiko♥Chan♥~ said:

Malwarebytes still works on XP. Although it's super bloated; my T7200 laptop lost a lot of CPU and ram using it!

As antiviruses become harder to obtain on XP, luckily it's the same with malware. That's my favorite part of Windows 9x :3
Once I tried installing shady offers on my XP installation, the malware wouldn't even launch because I was missing updates!

Give Microsoft Security Essential or Avast a try . Best for C2D

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On 7/11/2017 at 10:19 PM, sdfox7 said:

Antivirus is overrated. The virus writers are always ahead of the security firms, which means that until definitions are released, the potential to get infected is pretty easy.

I don't use AV on any of my ThinkPads, it hurts performance. I just use Chrome and Firefox, and never have been infected in all these years. My school and home networks are secured by firewalls.

Well, false sense of security is overrated too and really hazardous on XP. Without a serious AV on XP environment your ease is as shaky as your Chrome browser stucked in 49 version. It's well known the most of dangers come from browser and insecure firewall like XP Firewall. So the only thing you can do to secure an old browser (without security updates) is installing an AV like Kaspersky (Free) that integrates itself in the browser to prevent malware exploit on security leak unpatched by the unwilling gg boys.

edit: OInly for experts don't worry.. you can also use Commodore 64 to surf the web in total security.

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