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Wunderbar98

Running Windows 98 in 2017...

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I seem to remember a piece of software I found a while back that allowed you to just send a document to another computer on the network and have it automatically print from that machine. I wonder if it's possible to set up a printer on a Raspberry Pi or something and use that remotely.

 

I actually had a Canon i850 printer that was in regular use in my house from 2002-2015. It finally stopped working after 13 years, and the ink was getting a bit hard to find. Of course, it was compatible with Windows 98.

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1 hour ago, CamTron said:

I seem to remember a piece of software I found a while back that allowed you to just send a document to another computer on the network and have it automatically print from that machine. I wonder if it's possible to set up a printer on a Raspberry Pi or something and use that remotely.

Sure, via CUPS, but that would be a "Print Server":

https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-print-server/

Not entirely unlike what you do with a TCP/IP or LPR port on Windows NT series OS's or with a hardware print server.

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.

@pionner never did get back to me, looks like my hoarded Win98 SE updates won't get hosted. If anyone needs these to run legacy hardware or software post to this thread, i only log in if i see activity here.

Thanks @sdfox7 for the printer information. For now my printing needs are minimal, mostly for my wife's graphic software, she still has a well running Windows XP.

Having spent some Windows XP time yesterday with retro gaming (SimCopter still rocks), must say my previous sessions with Windows 98 SE were preferred. As mentioned earlier in this thread, finding working drivers is still easy, for my hardware anyway.

Next Windows installs will likely be Windows 98. I do, however, have POSReady 2009, but can't remember noting how it worked with printers and gaming, definitely enjoyed that it was a more stripped-down version of XP.

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To Windows 98 diehards this will have little relevance, everyone has software favourites. After much digging, trial and error, this is what i consider essential (couple non-essential) for a decent Windows 98 machine in 2017/2018. May save someone a lot of research time and effort to set up a fresh system ASAP. To my knowledge, at or near last working versions. Yes, i've also hoarded all this great software.

Results in a functional and reasonably secure system, due to obsolesence and a firewall. Still an up to date OS should be used for sensitive work, preferably lean Linux or BSD, which will still run great on old Windows 98 era hardware.

7Zip_4.57.exe - AFAIK Windows 98 has no built-in archiver, 7Zip is great.

CCleaner_2.29.1111.exe - Used this for years, various versions, great stuff.

Cute_PDF_Writer_2.7.exe - Occasionally useful, especially if no printer installed.

Defrag.exe - Install Defrag.exe from Windows ME, keep the original just in case. The performance of ME's Defrag.exe over the Windows 98 version is remarkable, never saw a system defrag so quickly. Yes, the system ran great afterward.

dillo-win32-3.0p9.exe - My favourite no-JavaScript browser for Windows, lean and fast. With some creativity and searching, still possible to find many sites that work acceptably without JavaScript. On old hardware, nothing more crippling than JS consuming CPU cycles.

DirectX_9_dec2006.exe - If you're going to game, this would be essential.

EasyCleaner_2_0.exe - Used this for years, various versions, never a problem.

EusingFreeRegistryCleaner.exe - Used this for years too, not my favourite but works okay, don't know version.

Firefox_2.0.0.20.exe - Not a Firefox fan, but probably best chance at getting some modern JavaScript sites running, especially if you want to avoid installing KernelEx.

Foxit_Reader_2.0.1414.exe - Most systems need a PDF viewer.

FreeWindowRegistryRepair.exe - Generic name, not my favourite but okay. Not in Windows at the moment so can't confirm version, believe it's from regsofts.com.

Links-2.1-install.exe - If you want something even leaner than Dillo, for a text-based browser it's pretty user friendly.

OpenOffice_2_4_3.exe - Still miss OpenOffice <sigh>, would use it over LibreOffice anyday.

pinball_3D_Pinball_Space_Cadet.exe - Believe this was from Windows ME, maybe XP. Classic misson-based pinball, runs well in Windows 98.

RegClean.exe - This was Microsoft official, be wary of imposters using a similar product name. Think the version is RegClean 4.1a (build 7364.1, December 30, 1997). Some claim this isn't stable, i've never had a problem, plus it creates a restorable registry file in the regclean.exe directory. As with all registry cleaners, back up existing registry first, only use one registry cleaner per session until a fresh boot confirms existing sofware runs well.

Scandskw.exe - Install Scandskw.exe from Windows ME, keep the original just in case. Didn't notice a performance gain, like with Windows ME's Defrag.exe, but seemed to run okay.

seamonkey-1.1.19.en-US.win32.installer.exe - Personal favourite for full-featured browser. Since it will become harder to properly run many JavaScript sites in Windows 98, having several browsers installed can't hurt.

TCPOptimizer_v308.exe - This is a must have for Windows 98 installs running a modern high speed connection. As Windows 98 defaults for dial-up, using even the generic TCP Optimizer tweaks should result in a HUGE increase in available bandwidth utilization.

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/175553-list-of-working-web-browsers-on-windows-9x/?page=4&tab=comments#comment-1145082

Tiny_Personal_Firewall_2.0.15.exe - Extremely lean and useful firewall, easy to run and uses almost no system resources.

TweakUI.exe - Numerous Windows tweakables to play with, don't know the version off-hand, install notes:

Run TweakUI.exe, extract to \WINDOWS\TEMP\
- Right-click 'tweakui.inf' and select install
- Run TweakUI from Control Panel applet

VLC_0.8.6d.exe - This rocks as a general purpose audio/video player.

winrogue_0_1.zip - Every system needs at least one classic roguelike.

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The death of 98 is simple.  There is no up to date or should i say no browser that currently supports modern web standards that works on 98.  This effectively kills the operating system for everything except menial task and retro gaming.  The only thing you can do is use a vnc or RDP to another computer to surf the web now basically.

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8 hours ago, Wunderbar98 said:

RegClean.exe - This was Microsoft official, be wary of imposters using a similar product name. Think the version is RegClean 4.1a (build 7364.1, December 30, 1997). Some claim this isn't stable, i've never had a problem, plus it creates a restorable registry file in the regclean.exe directory. As with all registry cleaners, back up existing registry first, only use one registry cleaner per session until a fresh boot confirms existing sofware runs well.

I never had a problem with RegClean either, the reason I added it to the SP years ago. Its very lightweight and robust.

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4 hours ago, Destro said:

The death of 98 is simple.  There is no up to date or should i say no browser that currently supports modern web standards that works on 98.  This effectively kills the operating system for everything except menial task and retro gaming.  The only thing you can do is use a vnc or RDP to another computer to surf the web now basically.

Certainly a person with only 1 computer running Windows 98 and no other computer or "smart" device would be in quite the pickle.

I remember a time when the internet (or at least the web) was not a primary function of a computer and later became a luxury. It seems only in recent years did computers turn into on-all-the-time machines and probably 99% of people only use their computer to go on the web. That doesn't mean that there cannot exist computers that do not use web browsers as their dominant program. Heck I even have computers (Windows 7) that are segregated so that they cannot get to the internet.

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I can see two reasons to use Win'98 today: retro-gaming and utilize very special hardware that has 9x-specific driver only. There is no need in web browsing in both cases. For all other tasks that i can imagine, it is better to use another OS (DOS, a sort of Windows NT or *NIX).

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