[Markymoo]

Which do i do first jdeboeck slimming down or use XPCREATE first or after?

[GreenMachine]

XPCREATE run and tested first ... then send your error messages to jdeboeck!

[GrimSage]

i did the reduce first then did xpcreate
install goes fine but i cant get xplode to eork correctly....

[Markymoo]

@GreenMachine

slimming down the workload again i c hehe just kidding

[GreenMachine]

Workload, and headaches ... Anything is, of course, doable. Everything is not.

[Jazz]

Well so finally whats the answer ? i'm using nlite for removing junk outta my sources..

Bye,
Jazz

[Alanoll]

i would say use XPCreate first. One of teh hotfixes might add something back in, that you had already taken out.

[swampy]

I tested running nlite before and after XPCREATE, both ended up the same, missing KB828741, KB835732 & Update Rollup 1 KB826939.
Forget it.
As GreenMachine keeps saying, always use a clean source for XPCREATE.
I haven't said thanks yet, but thanks GM, XPCREATE is phantasmagorical!
The only bugs I've seen have been XPCREATED by me:)

[GreenMachine]

I was wondering when I would here something ... and probably not the last!

'Welcome, swampy! Operator Error: Get's 'em every time ...

[GrimSage]

I suggest reduce then xpcreate. that way hotfixes dont get accidentally removed...

The big question is... Why does windows update think the hotfixes are needed but MBSA does not?

[tarquel]

Maybe Microsoft need to update the engine behind Windows Update

...just a thought when msba was updated alot more recently than WU...

N.

[Alanoll]

GrimSage, on May 20 2004, 01:44 PM, said:

I suggest reduce then xpcreate.  that way hotfixes dont get accidentally removed...

The big question is... Why does windows update think the hotfixes are needed but MBSA does not?

maybe it's just me, but no one bothers to search. I've posted before why a few will show up after reducing source. They rely on components. I've also posted in the nLite thread why WU thinks they aren't there, while MBSA thinks they are.


I suggest, XPCREATE then REDUCE. That way you have an updated source, and then it's removed. If the component is removed by REDUCE, then it won't get updated. But if removed first, XPCREATE doesn't know that, so it adds the files back, and then they are registered during setup and errors can arise depending on what it is.

[GreenMachine]

I don't know if anyone has ever looked, but my I386\SVCPACK directory gets pretty heavy. I do also add files from the hotfixes that may be unbeknownst to the various sliming procedures. If anyone is interested, they are listed at the end of the TXTSETUP.SIF file.