[Wraith]

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IRC is the best place to look for me, I'm usually around.

[Wraith]

Going by the lack of enthusiasm for people to get on board with things, I'm wondering whether I should even be bothering working on XPlode further.
Goes for the mailing list too - nobody's giving me any ideas, so at the moment, there's nothing to improve on.

Has anybody got any ideas for another project to do, because at this stage, with the lack of interest, I don't see a point continuing with XPlode. Maybe some docs, but that'd probably be it.

[Yonderboy]

Hey Man.

Don't give up. I have definitely a few sugestions and ideas and also some solutions that are interesting. I live in the GMT+1 time zone and I am fully available from 5 pm. to 12 pm...That 5 pm here is 11 or 12 pm in Sydney. But if you contact me through the day I can arange my time to have some free time. We could have a conversation on MSN messenger.
You can also contact me at kristian@rebus.sk anytime and leave a note you are online.

[tinnef]

I sent it to the mailing list as well, but I'll post it here for redundancy:

Since you asked, apart from Installation Selection there are two things
I would like in the Shortcut plugin:

• to select the icon for the shortcut,
  
• set how the shortcut is run (normal window, minimized, etc)

As for helping out: I'm not a coder, or web developer, but if need be I
could see what I can do with the documentation (although there seem to
be plenty who volunteered to do that).

[chezy666]

Integrating XPDeploy and XPlode could be good, we could use the image tag to give a better feel to the install also if i'm doing a install on my friends computer i could, before install, select only whats required to be installed.

[Alanoll]

oh hey, I didn't know you actually wanted us to send stuff yet. I just signed up, cause you said to

[DragonPark]

Where is everyone in the IRC chan? Been in there for a few hours and nobody has popped in. Chan isnt even registered....

Nevermind, it was cause of a long netsplit.

[Alanoll]

gets I better get out the old IRC proggie.....

[risolutore]

probably the new feature is a modular setup runtime, in order to select with check box the program we want to preinstall. Suppose you own only five AV license, you will so able to not bypass number of licenses and at the same time to have only a DVD for all the installation,
Second , maybe some of use doesn't need it by I think XPlode could integrate both alternative, full unattended ot interactive program setup.

[Wraith]

Call me silly, but I didn't understand anything of what you just said.

[prathapml]

Yup! that could be nice (not referring to wraith's post above).
Maybe a merge/integration of XPlode and XPdeploy (core being same, but extra plugins to facilitate it).

Then, maybe have some attribute in the XML header of XPlode which tells it to run in one of two modes:
1}. mode=XPlode
which will run the entire set of tasks/processes in unattended mode (like it does now)
2}. mode=choose
which will give an XPdeploy type of dialog box to tick the individual items you want to install (no selection for sub-processes within items) (possibly, this mode would require the XML to be at a writable/non-readonly location).

In either case, the XML would be the same - just change the "run mode" to have it behave the way you want. This would be desirable, since many people would like to have a way to *NOT* install some items from among the pre-determined list.



EDIT: maybe this post doesn't belong in this thread - if so, is it possible to move this post to the feature requests thread?

[prathapml]

Wraith, on Jul 7 2004, 06:47 PM, said:

I'm wondering whether I should even be bothering working on XPlode further  .......because at this stage, with the lack of interest, I don't see a point continuing with XPlode. Maybe some docs, but that'd probably be it.

Well, as a matter of fact there doesn't seem like anything more could possibly be needed. Whatever anyone could ever want is already present. I'm not able to think of any new features that could be added - nor do any bugs seem to exist.


Please don't take the above sentences as a negative comment. I actually mean to tell the above in a congratulatory tone

[Wraith]

prathapml, on Jul 9 2004, 11:30 PM, said:

Wraith, on Jul 7 2004, 06:47 PM, said:

I'm wondering whether I should even be bothering working on XPlode further .......because at this stage, with the lack of interest, I don't see a point continuing with XPlode. Maybe some docs, but that'd probably be it.

Well, as a matter of fact there doesn't seem like anything more could possibly be needed. Whatever anyone could ever want is already present. I'm not able to think of any new features that could be added - nor do any bugs seem to exist.


Please don't take the above sentences as a negative comment. I actually mean to tell the above in a congratulatory tone

Those were exactly my thoughts on it.
I'll see how things go.

[benners]

Quote

nor do any bugs seem to exist

Well I don't know if it is a bug or not, but, I posted a query here and have the same problem as MCT here, when I run taskkill it says

Error:Critical Error

.
I have tried the copying of files and shortcuts at T-13, T-12 and from Gui RunOnce, no joy, the files do seem to be copied but the install hangs after.If you could help Wraith that would be great

[Wraith]

All I can say is: I've used XPlode at T-9, copied from there and it worked fine.
I haven't used taskkill, and I'm not going to go out of my way to test things, when there are other things to worry about. If, when I have XPlode 2 running, I have any free time, I'll look at these issues, but at this point in time, it's not much of a problem by my standards.

If you'd like, go to http://mantis.voidfx.com/ and fill out a bug report - add the logfile, xml, and everything else you see as being relevant. I'll be more likely to look at something if I don't have to go wading rhrough multitudes of posts.


Just so you know, I don't mean to seem p***ed off at you, even though after reading it again myself, I seem that way. No animosity intended.

[chezy666]

risolutore, on Jul 8 2004, 11:39 PM, said:

probably the new feature is a modular setup runtime, in order to select with check box the program we want to preinstall. Suppose you own only five AV license, you will so able to not bypass number of licenses and at the same time to have only a DVD for all the installation,
Second , maybe some of use doesn't need it by I think XPlode could integrate both alternative, full unattended ot interactive program setup.

i guess he replied in the wrong window

[fillalph]

For a long time I was using batch files to control my unattended install of apps and such. I then did some looking at alternative solutions and XPlode looked really cool. However, Iread that users were unable to use XPlode 1.1.2 with Windows XP SP2 RC1 +. Instead I use runonceex. Since you are back to programming it, my request would be to make it compatible with SP2 +.

Thanks
]Bonkers[

[Wraith]

Don't worry, I said that one of the main things for XPlode 2 was to work with SP2.

It *has* been reported to work with SP2 by at least one person, so YMMV.

[prathapml]

Wraith, on Jul 10 2004, 02:12 PM, said:

It *has* been reported to work with SP2 by at least one person, so YMMV.

Who told you that XPlode had problems with SP2 (any version)?
I haven't even upgraded XPlode to the newest version (I have the later ones, but use v1.00 - logically the older version should have more bugs) and still, I see that it is perfect from every angle on RC1.

[mmarable]

There was an issue with some of the more recent versions of XPLode and SP2-RC1. Since RC2 has come out I haven't had any problems running XPLode, so Microsoft fixed what ever it was that caused the problem.

I wish it would work with Win2003. I've tried XPLode, XPDeploy, and even went back to XPInstall and they all bomb out.

I like the idea of having a list (like XPDeploy) when you can select the apps you want to install, like a series of check boxes, and off it goes to install them. I couldn't begin to guess if such a thing is possible, but it sure would be a godsend for me personally.

I also don't know if it's possible, but can the logging be expanded? Let's say an install bombs, can the error kicked back be logged? I suppose that all depends on the error handling of each individual installer, so who knows how feasible something like that would be.

That's about all that I can think of adding to what you already have, Wraith. You've put together an awsome tool.