[Solid as a rock]

AMDTWraith, on Jul 13 2004, 03:36 PM, said:

Resources:

• DirectX 9.0b SDK Download (220 MB)
  Directx SDK, from which the dsetup.h file and dsetup.lib files are taken.
  
  
• DirectX 9.0b Redist
  Extract the contents to a folder with /C /T:<path> commandline arguments.
  
  
• Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit 2003
  C/C++ compiler and basic compilation tools package.

Take the attatched file and extract the contents to a folder. If you want to use your own versions of dsetuplib and dsetuph replace the versions in the folder with your own. Edit the batch file to correctly setup your compilation environment and then run it. The output (if it works) is silentsetup.exe.

Take silentsetup.exe and place it in the folder that the dx9 redistributable files were extracted to, this folder should contain some cabs, an exe, an msi and most importantly the dll files dsetup.dll and dsetup32.dll.

Call silentsetup.exe in your setup and a progress dialogue will be shown, no interaction will be required though and dx will be fully installed.

The executable is included in the zip file but i'd really much rather your all learnt how to make it for yourselves than use my version.

220 MB??? i think u means 22 mb?

but it seems i have right, because the OPK or redistributable or SDK is only for english version? so i still need that hacked version? i am using dutch xp prof sp1a

[AMDTWraith]

SolidasRock, on Jul 13 2004, 08:44 AM, said:

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220 MB??? i think u means 22 mb?

but it seems i have right, because the OPK or redistributable or SDK is only for english version? so i still need that hacked version? i am using dutch xp prof sp1a

No, i mean 220 meg. Actually 223237 KB according to microsoft, and its their file so they'd know. Its the SDK, full retail and debug versions of everything plus libraries source code examples documentation and all sorts. SDK's are big but if you want the original files then thats what you need. You don't need anything but 2 small files form this and none of it gets put on the distribution media in the end. As i said while i've provided all the required files its really much better if you use the resources i've linked to and make your own, i'm not sure its permitted to provide those files like that. Do it right and you've broken no agreements, not even implicity or by proxy, which can be important for some people.

The redist is smaller but thats just the client files, its only 35 meg.

The setup api should work with localised versions, there is nothing specifying language in the setup, all it requires is the redist files (which could well be the dutch version) to install. Make up a virtual machine and give it a try, i'm using english windows so i don't use localised versions myself.

[prathapml]

Hey ppl,
there seems to be a fair bit of complication on this thread. We know to solve it, dont we? - use the hacked file itself (never mind broken agreements, implicitly or by proxy, which can be important for some people).

Forget about complicated/long-drawn-out processes, here's the simple way:
<extract-directx dxsetup.exe hex-edit>

[AMDTWraith]

Personally i'd say compiling a small executable is considerably easier than hex editing someone else's installer. I hex edit when i need to but its always as a last resort because there is usually a better option.

In this case there is an option that allows anyone to use only freely provided files without any risk of violating any license agreements, given the choice personally i'll use that option because i'm slightly obsessive and i like to do things in what i consider the "right" way. Each to their own.

I was greatly irritated when i started trying to create my slipstream install that there wasn't a legitmate way to install dx silently. I'm sorry but a hack is a hack and using an opk version installer when i'm not entitled to use it (though it may be easy to get) is a bar to my using it. When i did find that there was a way to do it i thought it'd be a good idea to tell people because there may other people out there who don't want to use hacked or illicit files in their distribution media.

Using the provided api may also allow localised versions of direct to be slipstreamed which will help some people no doubt. Certainly this method is harder than simply downloading someone else's files and using them. But its also more elegant in my opinion, its using the resources provided to achieve the goal the way it was designed to be achieved. I like that.

[Solid as a rock]

[svasutin]

Once again I'm back, and going to dissappear to try some more options. So let me start out once again by saying thank you.

It appears this thread was about to diverge. I think my issue is with my original CD; however, this does not explain why dx 9 correctly when I double click dxsetup.exe.

On a side note, I called up Msft and they agreed to ship me a new one for free. All retail/upgrade versions are entitled to get 1 free. When SP2 ships, I can get a new CD for $14.00 USD.

Anyway, I'm going to get rid of my unattend and restore dosnet and see what happens. If I'm lucky, I get to attempt this 3 times a day (wake up/lunch/sleep).

Actually...brb

[svasutin]

Fun stuff I tell you. My dosnet.inf has two [files], [OptionalSrcDirs], and [ForceCopyDriverCabFiles]

And they appear to be coming from the /integrage:<path> option for
kb840374

I guess msft's installer doesn't check for an updated dosnet.inf, nor svcpack.inf for that matter (I remember it over wrote my old svcpack.inf).

As for my dosnet.inf, I install the patch(es), I extract conents, compare the files to see which are really in use/updated, then move the required files to my i386, and finally check my dosnet.inf to see if the file is already listed. If it ain't, I add it to the [files] and [force...] sections. Since I have a system running dx9, I used my above process for the contents of the opk.

Once again, I'll be back, and thank you.

PS: if we're going to diverge, there is a new msft tweakui powertoy. Anyone know of usable command switches? Have tried /q, /qb, /s /v/q(|n|b|!), but then again, my dosnet is messed up. Oh nevermind, one thing at a time.

PPS: Thank you AMD for the download. I'm between vs 97 and vs .nyet right now. I have the software, just in the process of trying to get my xp correct first.

[prathapml]

svasutin, on Jul 14 2004, 06:31 AM, said:

there is a new msft tweakui powertoy.  Anyone know of usable command switches?

Tried searching ? TweakUI switches

P.S. : The above mentioned powertoy is not 'new' - it was released around the time of SP1 for WinXP.

[svasutin]

Some 1,400 files later, I've got a few notes:

First, dosnet.inf does have two [files] sections

Next, upon removing useless files, I have 830 files (includes everything needed); getting rid of kb/q exe's, security cat's, inf's, and multi language I am left with 615 files. From these 615, there are 453 included in the i386 folder by default. Although, I could be off by 30 files either way (comparing sp1 i386 to the extracted contents leads me to believe I can further remove another 26 files).

Finally, where am I getting some of my files:

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dplayx.dll 5.3.0.903 <- msfn's rar gave 900
dpwsockx.dll 5.3.0.903
dsound.vxd <- 1.5 year diff between sp1 and dx9 rar

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fpencode.dll 2003.1100.5510.0
hccoin.dll 5.1.2600.1515 <- not sp1 nor update file
msconv97.dll 2003.1100.5510

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qsaf.dll <- which 1 do you have: 9.0.0.2980 or 6.5.1.900

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usbccgp.sys 5.1.2600.1515 <- these should be 1243
usbehci.sys 5.1.2600.1515
usbhub.sys 5.1.2600.1515
usbohci.sys 5.1.2600.1515
usbport.sys 5.1.2600.1516
usbuhci.sys 5.1.2600.1515

So now I get the fun of actually replacing files with my dvd, then finally testing the opk.

Prathapml, on the old msft powertoys, the svqn switches work fine, it's with the new powertoy.

Give me one more day, and I should have a new DVD.

Once again, thank.

[svasutin]

As for qchain, I found an interesting kb, 815062
updated qchain fix for xp/2k

Anyway, looks like I really messed things up somewhere
Stupidly I deleted my entire image and started from scratch. Now my setuperr.log is hugh.

Thank you, all of you, for all your comments and help. I've got lots of work trying to figure out what to change and replace.

Does msfn keep a list of up to date files, including version numbers, referenced to kb/q files, and placement in the cmdlines vs svcpack? If not, anyone interested in starting one?

Thank you

[prathapml]

svasutin, on Jul 15 2004, 09:57 AM, said:

Prathapml, on the old msft powertoys, the svqn switches work fine, it's with the new powertoy.

The reason you couldn't get it to work is because you did not have a good enough look at the link here :
how to get TweakUI to install silent

[svasutin]

coo Prathapml

I've uploaded a file containing all the updates I use if anyone is interested. It's mylist.zip and is a 47kb (compressed to 7kb) text file. It's broken down into svc, cmdline, and gui sections by date.

It appears the problem is not with my install, but something to do with my dvd-r's. After receiving my new xpsp1a pro cd from msft, I find I encounter the same problems with the same files ; I suppose I should try installing and extracting from a cd device to see if there is a difference.

Thank you once again.

[svasutin]

I don't suppose other people could check their setuperr.log for similar issues. I have 5 recurring file issues:

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Setup detected that the system file named [c:\windows\system32\FileNameBelow.dll]is not signed properly by Microsoft.  This file could not be restored to the correct Microsoft version.
Use the SFC utility to verify the integrity of the file.

FileNameBelow is, well, below

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d3dim700.dll, mmcndmgr.dll, msvidctl.dll, mswebdvd.dll, qmgr.dll

Your setuperr.log is located in c:\windows, and should only be updated when xp is installed. Presently, mine is 2k

Thank you

[svasutin]

Well I've changed my DVD-R to a DVD/CDRW, then to a CD w/o success. I have changed the internal cables ~ again no luck. Guess I get to try a new hard drive.