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Posted 14 July 2004 - 03:13 PM

@All members if you have a high speed cd rom drive 48x-54x including cdr-rw drives
and you have the follwing software or any other software (BACK UP YOUR CD"S)

Windows (NT 4.0 95-98 win2k 2k3) can split or shatter in side high speed drives

programs that you use on a reg basis back them up as iso's to another medium or a hard disk

I have already lost two disk's to the problem

I do not think this problem affects the 4x based dual formant dvd burners or the new dual layer dvd drives but i could be wrong

just info for every one i hope this has not been posted already


if i missed anything please post thanks


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Posted 14 July 2004 - 03:19 PM

A friend of mine told me that 48x was safe for a stamped (retail type) disk, and that 52x was fine for a recorded disk. I can't say I've ever personally had a disk explode, though I've heard fairly gruesome (hardware-wise) accounts of the carnage that can happen to your poor disks and drive. I don't know why they put 54x+ drives on the market anyway...

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Posted 14 July 2004 - 03:22 PM

i dont know why i have not seen a 54x rated disk yet but i figured i would inform you guys just incase you had old os'es or programs that you use or collected to just back up your disk's

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Posted 14 July 2004 - 03:50 PM

I agree.. It's happened to me. I though a gun went off. Not to mention that the drive was done for. Look for cracks on the inside cutout ring of CDs. If there is a crack in them the inertia (Edited for you anal people. You know what I meant):) placed upon the CDs in the newer high speed drives will cause this to happen.

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Posted 14 July 2004 - 03:56 PM

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If there is a crack in them the centripetal force placed upon the CDs in the newer high speed drives will cause this to happen.


****...thought I'd never have to hear the phrase "centripetal force" again (I used to be an engineering student...now English...LOL)

BUT...while we're on that particular subject, it's inertia (commonly and incorrectly referred to as "centrifugal force") that pulls spinning things apart (they want to move in a straight line) and centripetal force that keeps things spinning (force vector towards the center of the CD in this case...if anyone cares).

Either way, it's something I hope I never see...just thinking of it makes me weep. Unless, of course, it were a WindowsME CD...

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Posted 14 July 2004 - 04:13 PM

No win ME cd's for me i skiped that version

but what programs you have you should back them up

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Posted 14 July 2004 - 05:32 PM

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BUT...while we're on that particular subject, it's inertia (commonly and incorrectly referred to as "centrifugal force") that pulls spinning things apart (they want to move in a straight line) and centripetal force that keeps things spinning (force vector towards the center of the CD in this case...if anyone cares).


A little anal don't you think.. You understood what I meant. Being my second post here you guys sure know how to run people off.

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Posted 14 July 2004 - 06:26 PM

no one is trying to run you off he was just giving more details as to what causes this to happen if im worng he will post it

and welcome to MSFN.org

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Posted 14 July 2004 - 07:33 PM

Aside from the destroyed CDs I never liked those drives anyway. They are just way too loud; I have seen a few that cause the whole desk to vibrate. I would rather have a slower drive that is quiet and reads disks more reliably; you can barely hear my LG DVD-ROM running. :)

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 08:40 AM

Sorry for running off, no offense intended. My physics teachers just drilled that into my head, so maybe I'll have saved you the trouble of listening to a physics teacher at some point (which is my ultimate goal in life :) ). And welcome to MSFN.

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 08:55 AM

Skyfrog, on Jul 14 2004, 09:33 PM, said:

Aside from the destroyed CDs I never liked those drives anyway. They are just way too loud; I have seen a few that cause the whole desk to vibrate. I would rather have a slower drive that is quiet and reads disks more reliably; you can barely hear my LG DVD-ROM running. :rolleyes:

I have a 52x CD-RW burner... I have a bunch of 52x CD-RWs, but haven't used them yet... Right now, I'm burning CDs at around 30x or so, so its not that bad... It doesn't even make that much noise when burning at a higher speed! :)

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 08:57 AM

Gamehead, what brand of writer/cds do you use?

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 09:23 AM

Phyridean, on Jul 15 2004, 10:57 AM, said:

Gamehead, what brand of writer/cds do you use?

Whoops... Forgot to mention that...

Right now, I'm using a no name brand I got at my local computer store... They work great, and burn at around 30x. I also have another pack of 100 unused CD-RWs from Memorex that are supposed to have a top burning speed of 52x (that's what it says on the spindle).

My burner is an LG-CDRW burner. :) 52x, 24x, 52x :rolleyes:

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 09:28 AM

Many thanks, O Gamehead. :)

I just finished a hundred pack so I need some new ones...

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 09:34 AM

Cool, I'm on my 3rd 100 pack... Its half way done, and my Memorex pack is on the shelf, ready to opened! :)

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 09:42 AM

man...I thought I'd burned a lot with three 50 packs and a hundred pack...lol...and I've had more time to do it...lots of coasters, though.

EDIT: <does math, realizes gamehead has indeed burnt an almost identical amount...>

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 09:55 AM

Funny things is that I don't even know where all my burnt CDs went...

<thinking> maybe in the garbage? ah... 10 coasters lying around the house... </thinking>

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 10:13 AM

ACTUALLY...I should get myself one of the 58x drives and let it destroy some of my coasters...kind of like a computer chipper shredder... :)

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