[Bilou_Gateux]

I have to install 12 HP DeskJet 3650 printers connected to the PC via USB.

The installation consists of a Windows Installer hp deskjet 3600.msi build with installshield.

The normal installation process is to run the installer (do not connect the hp deskjet 3600 series printer to the computer until prompted to do so), let the setup copies various features :

Model:hp deskjet 3600
Image Name:SPR1A-4
Build Date:11/2/2003
CD Burn:11/2/2003
Driver Version:09/02/2003,9.4.4.0
Driver Release:
Driver Release:R236-E-[GOLD]_Driver_Condensed
Installer Revision:SPR_3600.03.11.01.A
PA:030804_Homeplate_R293
PRNSCRN:v.2002.10.11[1.1-GOLD]
Languages: ara nld enu fra deu ita ptb esm
Feature:AutoRun
Feature:CI_DD
Feature:CI_HELP
Feature:CUE
Feature:CueIntegration
Feature:DriverCondensed
Feature:MSIO
Feature:Overland
Feature:PrinterAssistant
Feature:PrintScreen
Feature:RDT_Passthru
Feature:RDT_PDI
Feature:RDT_Uninstall
Feature:ReadMe
Feature:Resource_Checker
Feature:SoftwareUpdateTool
Feature:TestPage
Feature:WebReg

and when asked (the drivers inf, cat and related files previously copied by the installer in the right places) to plug the USB cable, let PnP do his job and install the printer and then installer ask if we want to register online and then finish.

Not really nice when we should do 12x the same thing.

My whish is to run the installer silently and install the printer without human intervention.

I already hear the answer : msieexec -i hp deskjet 3600.msi /qb.

No ! because the installer copies non-signed drivers and a windows popup to accept the package.

What i would like to do.

Rebuild a msi package which only install the needed features = PrinterAssistant.
that why i ask mazin, a msi specialist if he can give me some help to rework the msi (4.08Mb) to install only selected feature.

I have downloaded the driver part from HP Website and copy them to a new folder and add in my PnP OEM DriversPath in registry.

Resume to my process :
1/ Drivers are copied in a folder with the path added in registry to Pnp found it automatically.
2/ run msi silently to install the features i want and only those one without human interaction.
3/ when the new installed computer is run, the user plug the printer, PnP detection find a new peripheral, search in the right folder the driver, the user says YES if a popup windows advertises unsigned driver and voila.

Feedback and help welcome to transform this whish to reality.

HP DeskJet Basic Feature software/driver - FOR USB CABLE

HP DeskJet Full Feature software/driver - FOR USB CABLE

Model:hp deskjet 3600
Image Name:3600-fulfillment
Build Date:11/10/2003
CD Burn:11/10/2003
Driver Version:09/02/2003,9.4.4.0
Driver Release:
Driver Release:R236-E-[GOLD]_Driver_Condensed
Installer Revision:SPR_3600.03.11.01.A
PA:030804_Homeplate_R293
PRNSCRN:v.2002.10.11[1.1-GOLD]
Languages: ara cht chs csy dan nld enu fin fra deu grk heb hun ita kor non plk ptb rus esm svc tur
Feature:AltLangPDF_CD1
Feature:AltLangPDF_CD2
Feature:AutoRun
Feature:DriverCondensed
Feature:HTML_CFG_ALL
Feature:MSIO
Feature:Overland
Feature:PrinterAssistant
Feature:RDT_Passthru
Feature:RDT_PDI
Feature:RDT_Uninstall
Feature:ReadMe
Feature:SoftwareUpdateTool
Feature:TestPage

The downloadable version from this URL doesn't contains some features like WebReg, CUE CueIntegration.
Nethertheless, i don't need ReadMe, Software Update Tool, TestPage...

This post has been edited by Bilou_Gateux: 21 July 2004 - 10:00 AM

[mazin]

Hello, Bilou_Gateux.


If I want to summarize your nice and well-organized presentation, then I should say that you want to EDIT the MSI. Am I correct?

If you mean to REPACKAGE the MSI, there's no problem. Both solutions are supposed to be easy.

But, in case of drivers, I do not recommend repackaging.

However, let me talk less and work more! If I'd like to help, which version should I download; Basic or Full?

Thanks.

[Bilou_Gateux]

The basic feature contains only drivers related files (inf, cat, and dlls)


Yes, i just would like to repackage the msi (included in the full feature) to silently install only some features.

The feature i need to install from the msi is PrinterAssistant.
Some features i want to NOT install at all are ReadMe, Software Update Tool, TestPage.
And not to copy the DriverCondensed feature which should contains the drivers and ask to plug the printer to USB during the install.
The main idea is to copy all the drivers file in $OEM$\$1\PnPDrvrs\HPDJ36xx folder and to add a line to my winnt.sif in [Unattended] OEMPnPDriversPath = "\PnPDrvrs\HPDJ36xx". this part i do myself using unattended windows install
Run the msi installer in the [GuiRunOnce] section.
When the installation is finished, i sysprep the computer, create a ghost image and restore the ghost image to 12 PCs.
The first time the new user starts the PC, connect the usb cable with printer attached and just let the PnP detection find the printer and add it to available printers in windows.
As i'm not at office until next monday (July 26 2004), i cannot check one of the running box with the full feature installed to examine what are other features and if they are really necessary.
I hope to find more detailled information about those features next monday and give you more infos.
May be by editing the MSI file could you find more details about each feature (name of the exe and dll copied).

Thanks by advance to show me the way and sorry if my explanations are not very easy to understand due to my not so good english.

[mazin]

The Full version is 27.732 MB!

It should take long from my home-phone-line based modem to download.

I suggest you zip the MSI (4.08 MB) and send it to me by email. It should be shrunk upon zipping to less than its original size.

[Bilou_Gateux]

I am sorry not to have mentioned the size of the download.
In france, ADSL prices are the lowest in Europe and many websurfers have an ADSL connection to the internet.
Of course, i will download the package and send to you only the zipped msi file.

[mazin]

Bilou_Gateux, on Jul 23 2004, 11:17 AM, said:

I am sorry not to have mentioned the size of the download.
In france, ADSL prices are the lowest in Europe and many websurfers have an ADSL connection to the internet.
Of course, i will download the package and send to you only the zipped msi file.

I'll be waiting.

Thanks.

[Bilou_Gateux]

7zip is really a nice tool to create small archives with the ultra compression level.
4 Mb msi file reduced to less than 1 Mb 7z archive. Can be send as attached with a basic hotmail account with the 1 Mb attach size limit.

Just starting to play with HOWTO: Use the Orca Database Editor to Edit Windows Installer Files i have noticed an Admin install mode.
Seems to be possible to create a customized install by first running setup.exe /A but my first attempt was unsuccessful
Another switch is setup.exe /L language /S /v/qn launch the installation silently but windows popup with the wizard to connect the printer to USB.
I believe need first to create a custom install with PnP detection and printer install disabled and then use the switch mentionned to install silently.

This post has been edited by Bilou_Gateux: 23 July 2004 - 11:59 AM

[mazin]

These are the features included in the MSI along with their default installation state:

--- Feature ---------------------------	Will be -----

01- Alternate Language Arabic PDF (CD1)	Installed
02- Alternate Language Hebrew PDF (CD2)	Installed
03- Autorun ---------------------------	Not Installed
04- Driver (Condensed) ----------------	Installed
05- HTML_CFG_ALL (HTML.cfg) -----------	Installed
06- Microsoft IO (MSIO) ---------------	Installed
07- Overland --------------------------	Installed
08- Printer Assistant -----------------	Installed
09- RDT_Passthru (hpbvspst.exe)	-------	Not Installed
10- RDT_PDI (hpfpdi08.exe) ------------	Installed
11- RDT_Uninstall (Root Uninstaller) --	Not Installed
12- ReadMe ----------------------------	Installed
13- Software Update Tool (SWUT) -------	Installed
14- TestPage --------------------------	Installed

We have three options in how to adapt this MSI to our situation:

1- Delete unwanted features from the MSI.

This allows us to delete a feature's required files from the package.
Also, deleting a feature deletes its related registry keys and related shortcuts.
You can use WinINSTALL LE.

2- Disable installing unwanted features (Not Installed).

Disabling a feature disables its related registry keys and related shortcuts.
The package remains as it is.
You can use WinINSTALL LE.

3- Adding a condition to each feature.

This allows us to exclude features via command line at installation time.
Excluding a feature disables its related registry keys and related shortcuts.
The package remains as it is.
You can't use WinINSTALL LE.

Either option takes some minutes. First option takes hours to accomplish if you are going to delete related files.
_______________________________________________________
- Which option you think is better for you?
- Would you please post a pic for that annoying message (screen)?
- Also, currently, what app do you use for dealing with MSIs?

[Bilou_Gateux]

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- Which option you think is better for you?

3- Adding a condition to each feature.

I just want to uncheck the Software Update Tool (SWUT) feature because it adds :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"HP Software Update"=""C:\\Program Files\\Hewlett-Packard\\HP Software Update\\HPWuSchd.exe""
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce]
"SWUPath"="C:\\Program Files\\Hewlett-Packard\\HP Software Update\\shellExWin.exe -m"
Try to open a connection to internet each time the computer is powered.
I agree with people who suggest just to remove the value from the registry with a REG DEL after the installation.

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- Would you please post a pic for that annoying message (screen)?

HP Deskjet 3500, 3600, 3700, 3840, 5100, 5600, and 5800 Series Printers - Installation Stops When Looking for New Hardware

That's this one that make the install not running silently although using the command setup.exe /L 1036 /S /v/qn because install wait the USB cable to be plugged to let Windows find the printer and the installation complete.

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- Also, currently, what app do you use for dealing with MSIs?

Orca comes with the Platform SDK, but must be installed separately. After you installed the SDK, you'll find a file Orca.msi in directory <ProgramFilesFolder>\Microsoft Platform SDK\Bin\.
In fact i just use ORCA to view the content of the MSI database, never tried to edit some entries... for the hp deskjet 3600.msi, i haven't found from where the process i don't want to happens "Add New Hardware Wizard" is launched.

[mazin]

Bilou_Gateux, on Jul 24 2004, 12:24 PM, said:

3- Adding a condition to each feature.

That's easy. I'll modify the MSI and send it to you for testing. It should work, though.

I'll send it by email when I finish.

[mazin]

Use the modified MSI (sent to you) with these switches:

--- Feature ---------------------------	Switch to exclude

01- Alternate Language Arabic PDF (CD1)	A=0
02- Alternate Language Hebrew PDF (CD2)	H=0
04- Driver (Condensed) ----------------	D=0
05- HTML_CFG_ALL (HTML.cfg) -----------	C=0
06- Microsoft IO (MSIO) ---------------	M=0
07- Overland --------------------------	O=0
08- Printer Assistant -----------------	P=0
10- RDT_PDI (hpfpdi08.exe) ------------	I=0
12- ReadMe ----------------------------	R=0
13- Software Update Tool (SWUT) -------	S=0
14- TestPage --------------------------	T=0

The other 3 features are excluded by default.

Command line example:
-----------------------------

Start /wait %systemdrive%\Install\HP\HP3600.msi A=0 H=0 D=0 R=0 S=0 T=0 /qn

I'll be waiting for your test results.

[mazin]

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Software Update Tool

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install wait the USB cable to be plugged to let Windows find the printer and the installation complete

However, if those are the only problems you want to get rid of, you can try this solution using the original MSI:

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Start /wait %sys...\HP3600.msi CI_DO_PNP=False CI_INSTALL_DETECTED_PRINTER=No /qn
REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run /v "HP Software Update" /f
REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce /v SWUPath /f

CI_DO_PNP & CI_INSTALL_DETECTED_PRINTER are properties already found in the Properties Table of the MSI.

I think they can be exploited on the command line. You can give it a try. If they are usable, then you don't need the modified MSI.

[Bilou_Gateux]

thanks for the modified msi.
I will try both solutions and reports the results.

[cyberdiamond]

Any news?

[mazin]

cyberdiamond, on Aug 3 2004, 06:56 AM, said:

Any news?

Are you interested in the same printer?

[Bilou_Gateux]

The solution is to create an answer file response.ini and use this command to install silently :

setup.exe /S /L1036 /v"/qb! RESPONSE=response.ini"
where 1036=Selected language for this installation.
infos found here :
Printer Driver Plug and play How to Deply

But too bad (as mentionned before), the HP Setup is bugged and hangs when i try to create the answer file with the command SETUP.EXE /A

an error has occured while creating the hp deskjet 3600 series customized installer.
Please run this wizard again.

response.ini example for HP LaserJet 1010 series connected to USB port, set as default printer, not shared and with all features selected :

[Port Settings]
PORT=USB
[Installer Settings]
MODEL=hp LaserJet 1010
NAME=hp LaserJet 1010 Series Driver
SHARED=N
SHARENAME=
VEND_9X=N
VEND_NT4=N
DEFAULT_PRINTER=Y
DEFAULT_DRIVER=Driver
[Features]
hb=Y
toolbox_1010=Y
fonts=Y
[HELP-LongFeatureNames]
hb=Pilote hp LaserJet série 1010
toolbox_1010=Boîte à outils hp LaserJet
fonts=Polices d'écran

I should investigate later the hp deskjet 3600.msi file to find the features short names and long names to write my own answer file (i haven't any msi editor currently installed on the computer at office).
Maybe mazin could you have a look and give me the missing long names ?
my latest test response.ini file for english language

[Port Settings]
PORT=USB
[Installer Settings]
MODEL=hp deskjet 3600
NAME=hp deskjet 3600 Series Driver
SHARED=N
SHARENAME=
VEND_9X=N
VEND_NT4=N
DEFAULT_PRINTER=Y
DEFAULT_DRIVER=Driver
[Features]
ReadMe=Y
MSIO=Y
Overland=Y
PrinterAssistant=Y
[HELP-LongFeatureNames]
ReadMe=read me
MSIO=Microsoft IO
Overland=Overland
PrinterAssistant=printer assistant

setup.exe /L1036 /v"/lv c:\dj3600.log /qb! RESPONSE=response.ini"
gives me errors in the dj3600.log file :

../..
MSI (s) (88:1C): Machine policy value 'DisableUserInstalls' is 0
MSI (s) (88:1C): End dialog not enabled
MSI (s) (88:1C): Original package ==> E:\gh\tmp\hp deskjet 3600.msi
MSI (s) (88:1C): Package we're running from ==> C:\WINNT\Installer\1b4f9fb.msi
MSI (s) (88:1C): APPCOMPAT: looking for appcompat database entry with ProductCode '{91A5B6C0-EF4E-4830-AC7D-6761C0A9B292}'.
MSI (s) (88:1C): APPCOMPAT: no matching ProductCode found in database.
MSI (s) (88:1C): Machine policy value 'TransformsSecure' is 0
MSI (s) (88:1C): User policy value 'TransformsAtSource' is 0
MSI (s) (88:1C): Looking for file transform: E:\gh\tmp\1036.MST
MSI (s) (88:1C): Validating transform 'E:\gh\tmp\1036.MST' with validation bits 0x0
MSI (s) (88:1C): Transform 'E:\gh\tmp\1036.MST' is valid.
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2262 2: Patch 3: -2147287038 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2262 2: PatchPackage 3: -2147287038 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2262 2: _Tables 3: -2147287038 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2262 2: _Columns 3: -2147287038 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2262 2: Media 3: -2147287038 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2262 2: File 3: -2147287038 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2262 2: PatchPackage 3: -2147287038 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2262 2: Patch 3: -2147287038 
MSI (s) (88:1C): TRANSFORM: 'PatchPackage' table is missing or empty.  No pre-transform fixup necessary.
MSI (s) (88:1C): TRANSFORM: Applying regular transform to database.

../..

MSI (s) (88:1C): APPCOMPAT: looking for appcompat database entry with ProductCode '{91A5B6C0-EF4E-4830-AC7D-6761C0A9B292}'.
MSI (s) (88:1C): APPCOMPAT: no matching ProductCode found in database.
MSI (s) (88:1C): Transforms are not secure.
MSI (s) (88:1C): Transforming table Property.

MSI (s) (88:1C): Transforming table Control.

MSI (s) (88:1C): Command Line: RESPONSE=response.ini TRANSFORMS=1036.MST SETUPEXEDIR=E:\gh\tmp CURRENTDIRECTORY=E:\gh\tmp CLIENTUILEVEL=2 CLIENTPROCESSID=356 %HOMEPATH=\ %HOMEDRIVE=C: %HOMESHARE= 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Product Code passed to Engine.Initialize:           ''
MSI (s) (88:1C): Product Code from property table before transforms: '{91A5B6C0-EF4E-4830-AC7D-6761C0A9B292}'
MSI (s) (88:1C): Product Code from property table after transforms:  '{91A5B6C0-EF4E-4830-AC7D-6761C0A9B292}'
MSI (s) (88:1C): Product not registered: beginning first-time install
MSI (s) (88:1C): Entering CMsiConfigurationManager::SetLastUsedSource.
MSI (s) (88:1C): User policy value 'SearchOrder' is 'nmu'
MSI (s) (88:1C): Adding new sources is allowed.
MSI (s) (88:1C): Package name extracted from package path: 'hp deskjet 3600.msi'
MSI (s) (88:1C): Package to be registered: 'hp deskjet 3600.msi'
MSI (s) (88:1C): Transforming table Error.

MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2729 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2729 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Note: 1: 2262 2: AdminProperties 3: -2147287038 
MSI (s) (88:1C): Machine policy value 'DisableMsi' is 0
MSI (s) (88:1C): Machine policy value 'AlwaysInstallElevated' is 1
MSI (s) (88:1C): User policy value 'AlwaysInstallElevated' is 0
MSI (s) (88:1C): Product installation will be elevated because user is admin and product is being installed per-machine.
MSI (s) (88:1C): Running product '{91A5B6C0-EF4E-4830-AC7D-6761C0A9B292}' with elevated privileges: Product is assigned.
MSI (s) (88:1C): TRANSFORMS property is now: E:\gh\tmp\1036.MST

../..

My conclusion is that the problem is in the transform file.
same problem with other languages transforms 1033.mst,1034.mst,1040.mst,1046.mst
Hp engineers, please make your works better the next time.

RDT could be Rapid Deployment Tool ?

This post has been edited by Bilou_Gateux: 09 August 2004 - 10:14 AM

[mazin]

-- Feature's Name ----- Title

01 Overland -----------	Overland
02 SoftwareUpdateTool - SWUT Application
03 AltLangPDF_CD1 ----- Alternate Language Arabic PDF
04 AltLangPDF_CD2 -----	Alternate Language Hebrew PDF
05 AutoRun ------------	Autorun
06 DriverCondensed ----	Driver
07 HTML_CFG_ALL -------	HTML.cfg
08 MSIO ---------------	Microsoft IO
09 PrinterAssistant --- printer assistant
10 RDT_Passthru -------	hpbvspst.exe
11 RDT_PDI ------------	hpfpdi08.exe
12 RDT_Uninstall ------	Root Uninstaller
13 ReadMe -------------	read me
14 TestPage -----------	TestPage

[Bilou_Gateux]

And the winner is Bilou_Gateux.

Finally writes a valid response.ini file for 1033 (English language).
See my last edited post for the code.
Used in conjonction with the downloaded Full features driver.
HP DeskJet Full Feature software/driver - FOR USB CABLE(Anglais)
launch with : setup.exe /L1033 /v"/lv c:\dj3600.log /qb! RESPONSE=response.ini"

But the PnP Wizard assistant still popup and ask to plug the USB cable. When i plug the cable, setup finish without errors and have a new printer installed.
Now i'm going to find a solution (plug the cable is not really unattended install without human interaction ) for this problem with mazin modified msi or kill the task with pskill ?

dj3600.log

../..
=== Logging stopped: 09/08/2004  18:25:51 ===
MSI (s) (18:E0): Note: 1: 1728 
MSI (s) (18:E0): Product: hp deskjet 3600 -- Configuration completed successfully.

MSI (s) (18:E0): Cleaning up uninstalled install packages, if any exist
MSI (s) (18:E0): MainEngineThread is returning 0
MSI (c) (60:08): Decrementing counter to disable shutdown. If counter >= 0, shutdown will be denied.  Counter after decrement: -1
MSI (c) (60:08): MainEngineThread is returning 0
=== Verbose logging stopped: 09/08/2004  18:25:51 ===

[mazin]

I wonder why you left the orig idea! It should work well, unless the new idea is more efficient.

[cyberdiamond]

mazin, on Aug 3 2004, 07:30 PM, said:

cyberdiamond, on Aug 3 2004, 06:56 AM, said:

Any news?

Are you interested in the same printer?

My reply got deleted ???

Oh well
What I replied was I use a HP 7260 Photo printer.
With the same type of setup files.

That gets shared between my main machine, my server and my laptop
If I get it working, I'll be using it remotely as well (through wireless and dial in)

Looks like I will try both methods now and see what happens!

I will report back with my findings