[Alanoll]

prathapml, on Jul 31 2004, 07:47 AM, said:

Are the switches (for selecting individual components) case-sensitive?


@Alanoll-
I carried out a makecab on your initial (5.07 MB) release of wa5.04, and was amazed to see that it compressed down to 4.47 MB! (which is close to the size of the original installer). Using that, and maybe some optimizations, you might be able to bring down installer size to below 4 MB............  (hopefully)

well, I've already slimmed it down as much as I think possible in Installshield X. The makecab or raring is always a solution. If anyone knows any hidden features to make it even smaller, I'm all ears. But do note I have not included ANY engines in the release. Perhaps there is a compression by Component. I'll see. THere's supposed to be an option to select compresseion but I haven't found it.


Can someone try using this without an nLite'd CD? I mean seriously, without a clean source, how am I to know it it's the installer or something else you've done.

But I should point out, for the majoirty of stuff, I'm leaning towards user error (perhaps explanation wasn't enough however).

As for the switches being case sensitive, that's a good question. I don't believe so. But I've haven't done an all lowercase switch yet. I've tried capitol X and then lowercase and that worked, and then I tried ALL capitol and that worked.


@prathapml
Think you could see if the quicklaunch works. As long as you don't select components, it's only the core getting installed..
@bondedaddy
try redownloading. In a 30 minute window, I updated it 3 times. You may have been unfortunate in those 30 minutes.
Also, you didn't post the exact line you use to install. You just said same as above. Give me the CMD line that you use to call, including all switches. X out the serial, but keep the format.

[bonedaddy]

ok I've got it working for me, I used a batch reg hack for

user\key and used %userprofile% for quicklaunch and

"xskinsetting=winamp modern" works perfect

thanks

EDIT

fixed xuser=name
changed to xname=

[Alanoll]

bonedaddy, on Jul 31 2004, 10:45 AM, said:

ok I've got it working for me, I used a batch reg hack for

user\key and used %userprofile% for quicklaunch and

"xskinsetting=winamp modern" works perfect

thanks

i really don't wanna hear that. I want to know how to fix it so there is no need for a workaround. There is 1/3 of you that have the registrtion working.

[prathapml]

Alanoll, on Jul 31 2004, 08:27 PM, said:

@prathapml
Think you could see if the quicklaunch works.

Well, so I did it now, and here's what happened:


Running the below from a command-line:

Winamp_5.0.4.msi xfull=1 xquicklaunch=1 /QB

did install all shortcuts and all components, but no quicklaunch shortcut! Instead, the desktop lnk (which is =1 by default, according to you) did get installed; and <StartMenu\Programs> links got installed properly. Winamp started in modern skin despite me not choosing to do so, and I also found that the media Library was positioned in front of winamp_main_window, therefore obscuring the view of it (at 1024x768, did not test at other resolutions).

Before I tested it (as you wanted), I uninstalled winamp, deleted all related registry entries and re-booted. So all settings would be at the defaults you made it with. All of this was on a clean system (not nLite'd, SP2 build2162). Also, I had registered the Pro version (using a .reg) just before using your .MSI, so I did not specify those options - but it surprised me to see that the registration info was wiped out after running the install. Hoping this helps...

[Alanoll]

I should point out, that I have no control over the positions. Winamp determines taht are first run.

As, you specified Xfull=1. That means Modern Skin support is installed. As such, Modern Skin is enabled by default, UNLESS specified not to. Which I don't see

Well, too be honest about the quicklaunch, I took a guess. And see as how there are multilingual users, that's probally the problem. The Quicklaunch shortcut gets created at %Userprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch. If there is any difference in the paths on your machines, it won't get created properly. I'll see if there is another place to create it. Otherwise, I may just remove it

As for overwriting the registration info....um.....I'll see what I can do. I'll perhaps need to add some conditions and see about creating a private property so that it checks if it's already present and does not overwrite. At the moment, it jsut writes what's in the property to registry (which is why I can't see what it's failing, unless user error)


EDIT:: Well I'll be....I made a typo earlier. the command isn't xuser, it's xname. New MSI coming fixing the overwriting and hopefully quicklaunch issue.

[bonedaddy]

fixed xuser=name

changed to xname=

changing xquicklaunch

to xtaskbar and testing

EDIT
ok then won't waste my time and instead will

try new msi, hopefully all user errors are gone

[prathapml]

Alanoll, on Jul 31 2004, 11:12 PM, said:

The Quicklaunch shortcut gets created at %Userprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch. If there is any difference in the paths on your machines, it won't get created properly.

That's true, but I do know that, and checked in that exact location (%Userprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch), but the shortcut wasn't created. And I use a plain US English version of winXP with default regional settings (so no multi-language issues). Maybe the problem is that you need to wrap that path with a <""> (i mean, double-quotes)?

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As for overwriting the registration info..... At the moment, it just writes what's in the property to registry (which is why I can't see what it's failing, unless user error)

I'm sure of the absence of user-error in this case. Maybe if you set the MSI to not write anything to registry if that property is left unspecified, the issue will get resolved?



And for the positioning of the media library, it normally gets positioned properly if you run it after installing from the normal installer - but now the MSI doesn't do the same. So, maybe you haven't checked if you have any remnants of not-understood settings in "winamp.ini" (which is where window-positions are remembered) ?

[Alanoll]

ok, I need to refresh before editing my post....

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EDIT:: Well I'll be....I made a typo earlier. the command isn't xuser, it's xname. New MSI coming fixing the overwriting and hopefully quicklaunch issue.

Bonedaddy
I can assure you right now, xtaskbar won't work. It doesn't exist


@prathapml
well, crud. There goes the language issues. oh well, hopefully the new thing fixes it. But I don't tpe the path to the shortcut in. It's a tree creating thing. Right Click, type name of folder. Like in Explorer.

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And for the positioning of the media library, it normally gets positioned properly if you run it after installing from the normal installer - but now the MSI doesn't do the same. So, maybe you haven't checked if you have any remnants of not-understood settings in "winamp.ini" (which is where window-positions are remembered) ?

I'll check later (about to leave the house) about any INI settings that may affect this. I have each component with it's settings installed in a seperate folder, so it shouldn't take long to see changes.

[prathapml]

Is it possible for you to get these switches to advertise themselves (like in windows Pre-SP hot-fixes) when you run "winamp.msi /?"

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Additional switches are

Xfull = Install ALL components.
Xname = Username for Pro registration
XKey = Product Key for Pro registration
XDesktop = Creates the Desktop shortcut; Default is 1
XQuicklaunch = Creates the Quicklaunch shortcut; Default is 0
XStartmenu = Creates the Startmenu shortcuts; Default is 1
XAllShort = Creates all shortcuts; Default is 0
XSkinsetting = Specify the SKIN to use in Winamp

[Alanoll]

prathapml, on Jul 31 2004, 01:10 PM, said:

Is it possible for you to get these switches to advertise themselves (like in windows Pre-SP hot-fixes) when you run "winamp.msi /?"

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Additional switches are

Xfull = Install ALL components.
Xname = Username for Pro registration
XKey = Product Key for Pro registration
XDesktop = Creates the Desktop shortcut; Default is 1
XQuicklaunch = Creates the Quicklaunch shortcut; Default is 0
XStartmenu = Creates the Startmenu shortcuts; Default is 1
XAllShort = Creates all shortcuts; Default is 0
XSkinsetting = Specify the SKIN to use in Winamp

I have NO idea how to accomplish that through Windows Installer. As /? would be passed to msiexec.exe. I'll look into it though. Good idea.

[mazin]

prathapml

I guess if you installed the Agent and enabled it to start with Windows, the Quick Launch link would be there.

For Library position, yes I think Alanoll saved winamp.ini after keeping the library in a certain position.

Hope this helps.

[Alanoll]

Quicklaunch should be fixed now...hopefully.
New MSI uploaded. I'll go through again in a few hours about the Library position. And actually, almost all entries are blanked for WInamp to create them in the INI.

[bonedaddy]

fixed library position by making sure that

the code is as,

xmodernskin=1
xskinsetting=winamp modern



EDIT
sorry guys that was the playlist that the above order
fixed, I don't use the library. At least until a few min.
ago, I thought I would try it. they're all over the place.
Playlist and library on top of main winamp.

[bonedaddy]

Ok dudes the QL is fixed

cya

[big_gie]

Thanks alanoll for this nice release!!!!

There doesn't seems to be an option for "Nullsoft tray control"... what is it though?

[Alanoll]

I honestly have NOOOO idea. It's probally for when playing CDs, it ejects then or something. But that's just my guess. I don't use Winamp to play CDs I rip them, then play the MP3s lol.

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There doesn't seems to be an option for "Nullsoft tray control"... what is it though?

Hmm, indeed there isn't, in the dialog anyway it's XTRAY I must have accidentally removed it at somepoint when going through the dialogs. Will be fixed next update.

Planned for next:
Fix that quirck
Find out about Media Library
See about that /? screen, but I doubt it will work. I might have to create an entire new type of install type (Maintenace, Admin, Normal are the typical ones) for and then have a switch somewhere like HELP=1 (needs to be that as Windows Installer can't add any more switches, only properties)
See if I can get it smaller. THERE HAS TO BE AN OPTION SOMEWHERE


EDIT: I found out where that bloody entry is for the position of the Library. studio.xnf

[prathapml]

Oh goddamn crap! (no offense meant, I'm just amazed)
I came across the quicklaunch shortcut finally, and guess where the MSI had created it?
"E:\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\"
The mystery of the QuickLaunch shortcut not showing up is solved, eh?

ha ha ha.......
Alanoll, you need some sleep buddy, don't work on this in a late night.

[prathapml]

Ok dudes, forget my post above. This is the penalty I pay for using an old version. The newer version (which was most recently linked to by the first post here) is able to make the quicklaunch shortcut in the right place - it works for me. I don't know about the other things, though.

[Alanoll]

I changed the initial starting path for the shortcut from
[UserProfile] to [AppData] and that seems to fix it.

As for the media library positioning, if you delete studio.xnf, Winamp will recreate it and the library and everything else will be in the right place. The file is removed in the MSI on my computer. It's a minor thing, so.....I'm gonna continue with those other updates first releasing it.

[Astalavista]

so my runonce should look like this?

reg add %Key%\075 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\Winamp\winamp.msi xFull Xuser="Joe User" XKey="XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX"
" /f