[nateklomp]

ATI HARDWARE+ATI DECODER=HARDWARE-ACCELERATED DVD PLAYBACK.

ATI HARDWARE+POWERDVD DECODER=SOFTWARE-ONLY PLAYBACK.

[nio]

Well.. after thinking about it and all those hours i've spent searching and all those stuff installed on my P3 1GHz, i decided to give up the try.

With all those ati software stuff, i noticed some strange behaviour on some game graphics, so i decided to keep my system simple. Unless there's a way to use that h/w decoder with installing only one app.
In Power DVD settings, there's a "enable hardware acceleration" check button.
When i check this, my cpu usage during dvd playback is around 35% and without having anything installed (no ati media center, no ati decoder or anything else.).
When i un-check this, cpu usage climbs up to 75%.
The same exactly was the behaviour with all those ati software stuff.

On the other hand, i find that on windows media player, in menu tools -> options -> performance -> advanced, the "Prefered decoder" settings are frozen... and still was that way after installing all ati software.

So no more framework, ati media center, windows media decoder, ati decoder, and many many more that finally proved to be completelly useless to me.

I now only have the latest version of drivers and i am happy!

This post has been edited by nio: 04 April 2006 - 10:55 AM

[tommy_vercetti]

Hi,


Not going to give up so easily, to all ATi users I have taken out all the DVD decoding filters and attached to this post, you can use a bacth file to register this to your windows and use them.


P.S.

Good news I am planning on making a INF file for this and then install it using that so I will have a uninstall link in my control panel(just learning and this is gonna take time). Any interested ATi card enthusiast can contact me regarding this and we might be able to come up with something as the main thing are the filters, the rest is just the installer used to put it in place. The INF version will be more advanced as it will be able to put settings in the registry just like the actual one.

Hahahahaha, this stupid thing has 4.8 mb global limit but won't let me attach a .9 mb rar file

[tommy_vercetti]

The Inf script to launch the install process for the .ax filters
/----> start here <------/

[Version]
Signature = $Windows NT$

[SourceDisksNames]
75 = %DISKNAME%

[SourceDisksFiles]
%FILENAME%.inf = 75
claud.ax = 75
CLNavX.ax = 75
CLVSD.ax = 75
PowerDVD.SIM = 75

[Inf.Copy]
%FILENAME%.inf

[New.Uns]
claud.ax
CLNavX.ax
CLVSD.ax
PowerDVD.SIM

[Do.Regist]
11,,claud.ax, 1
11,,CLNavX.ax, 1
11,,CLVSD.ax, 1

[File.Del]
%FILENAME%.PNF

[DestinationDirs]
DefaultDestDir = 11
Inf.Copy = 17
File.Del = 17

[DefaultInstall]
AddReg = Reg.Settings, Reg.Uninstall
CopyFiles = Inf.Copy, New.Uns
RegisterDlls = Do.Regist

[DefaultUninstall]
UnregisterDlls = Do.Regist
DelReg = Reg.Settings, Reg.Uninstall
DelFiles = Inf.Copy, New.Uns, File.Del

[Reg.Settings]
;DVD in WMP
HKCU,Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\Settings,EnableDVDUI,,"yes"

[Reg.Uninstall]
HKLM,%UNINSTAL%\%DESCNAME%
HKLM,%UNINSTAL%\%DESCNAME%,DisplayName,,"%DESCNAME%"
HKLM,%UNINSTAL%\%DESCNAME%,UninstallString,,"%REMOVCMD% %17%\%FILENAME%.inf"

[Strings]
; Non-localizable
DISKNAME = "ATIDVD Decoder"
SC = "SOFTWARE\Classes"
SCC = "SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID"
SMWntCv = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion"
SCcsCMr = "SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaResources"
UNINSTAL = "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall"
REMOVCMD = "rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultUninstall 132"

; Localizable
FILENAME = "atidvd"
DESCNAME = "ATIDVD Decoder"


/------> end here <------/


The filters can be extracted using the Uniextract utlitly available somewher on this forum, also the powerdvd.sim is the key if you don't put that file nothing will work.


If anybody can still improve on my Inf file would be great or even make a Msi would be even better...

That's all for now..

For all you lazy people here is the download link http://rapidshare.de...ecoder.exe.html

Sorry to have to use Rapid Share, also right click the file and open in WinRAR before installing to see what is actually in there, should know what it is doing, actually there is lot of scope for improvement, but Im not a programmer just a enthusiast, so bear with this, any troubles PM me I might be able to help

This post has been edited by tommy_vercetti: 21 April 2006 - 01:04 PM

[Noise]

That's a very nice INF file. Don't see too many of those these days

[tommy_vercetti]

Download url http://rapidshare.de...ecoder.exe.html

[cristianb]

i have the same problem with a ATI tv wonder pro!!! before was working fine without ati decoder with my onboard vga, well now with my new fx 5500 PCI the tv its flickering on the top of the screen, so i can see just the bottom normal.I've tried many software and the same problem.Well few days ago i tried christv and its working just with deinterlaced disable.I want to use ati software and i dont know how to resolve this problem.I download the ati decoder from here and its still now working maybe someone know how to fix this problem, thanks!!!

[tommy_vercetti]

Hi,

Today is your lucky day cos all the big guys have abandoned this topic and it's just me trying to hold on...

Your lucky day bcos just last night I figured out what is to be done, I've tried trying to disassemble and all sort's of things like trying to register the filters with regserver and like but was not satisfied with that, so here is the official way how it should have been done long ago...

So to the main part..

Get the file here

Then form the setup file you have do a admin install using

setup.exe /A

as the parameters

This will give you the following files
1. ATIDec.msi
2 Common folder

Now note that the Common folder contains all the filters and that the executable to this is the ATIDec.msi but if you click on it it will give you an error message that it cannot be run from the msi directly(bul*****). So I happened to check out this site and while going through the Quicktime deployment issues found out the solution.


So now to overide all the msi and other restriction you can run the msi directly without modifying or anything by this command

msiexec /i ATIDec.msi ISSETUPDRIVEN=1  /QB

The command ISSETUPDRIVEN=1 overides the cannot be run from the msi directly condition without even having to touch the ATIDec.msi with ORCA(A Msi editing tool). For those installing on fresh XP SP 2 machines it will give you an error that it needs some ISS scripting engine is not installed no to worry try to run the setup.exe directly it will give you an error message saying that it needs to be run from the ATi CD-wiz, do not click on ok, first go to your temp(C:\Documents and Settings\Your Namet\Local Settings\Temp) directory and from there look around for a file named ISScript9.Msi

Then in order to not get that error message and be able to install write a cmd file ATIDVD.cmd with the following code in it

msiexec /i ISScript9.Msi /qb
msiexec /i ATIDec.msi ISSETUPDRIVEN=1  /QB

Please note you need to put the actual file locations in place of the file names, I have tried this and I know it works...

Hope this help...

This is my longest and maybe last for this topic as it is resolved now

This post has been edited by tommy_vercetti: 17 May 2006 - 09:20 PM

[cristianb]

i am using win2k and i cant find that ISScript9.Msi anywhere

[tommy_vercetti]

s*** this place won't let me upload files, sorry had to use Rapid share, here is the link

This post has been edited by tommy_vercetti: 20 May 2006 - 07:57 AM

[bigfatroundguy]

I only recently came across this prospective solution recently, so bear with me. I have tried the suggestion made by polymorphean on aug 27, 2004, tried the suggestion made by OCedHrt on dec 1, 2005 and finally the suggestion made by edadat on dec 7, 2005 - all without success.

the common failed moment is the following error message:

This installation needs to be launched from the ATI DVD Web Wizard
Setup will now exit.

Any further suggestions or comments as to what I might be doing incorrectly.

thx

[tommy_vercetti]

Im sorry my dear friend, but did you take the trouble of reading my post, please go through it

Get the file here(http://www2.ati.com/drivers/setup.exe)

Then form the setup file you have do a admin install using
CODE
setup.exe /A
as the parameters

This will give you the following files
1. ATIDec.msi
2 Common folder

Now note that the Common folder contains all the filters and that the executable to this is the ATIDec.msi but if you click on it it will give you an error message that it cannot be run from the msi directly(bul*****). So I happened to check out this site and while going through the Quicktime deployment issues found out the solution.


So now to overide all the msi and other restriction you can run the msi directly without modifying or anything by this command
CODE
msiexec /i ATIDec.msi ISSETUPDRIVEN=1 /QB


The command ISSETUPDRIVEN=1 overides the cannot be run from the msi directly condition without even having to touch the ATIDec.msi with ORCA(A Msi editing tool). For those installing on fresh XP SP 2 machines it will give you an error that it needs some ISS scripting engine is not installed no to worry try to run the setup.exe directly it will give you an error message saying that it needs to be run from the ATi CD-wiz, do not click on ok, first go to your temp(C:\Documents and Settings\Your Namet\Local Settings\Temp) directory and from there look around for a file named ISScript9.Msi

Then in order to not get that error message and be able to install write a cmd file ATIDVD.cmd with the following code in it

CODE
msiexec /i ISScript9.Msi /qb
msiexec /i ATIDec.msi ISSETUPDRIVEN=1 /QB


Please note you need to put the actual file locations in place of the file names, I have tried this and I know it works...

Hope this help...

This is the method it should have been done, please don't tell me about all the other person's method, try out my way if it does not then complain, otherwise leave, peace

This post has been edited by tommy_vercetti: 26 May 2006 - 07:05 AM

[bigfatroundguy]

Tommy, my apologies for not reading the entire email chain thoroughly. I simply lost patience with the approaches and attempts that I had made. Your solution not only worked, it worked first time, and was by far and away the simplest approach. My thanks to you for your ingenuity and clearly your patience with me.

[tommy_vercetti]

You are most welcome.

[a_non_moose]

Can't wait to get home and try this.

I have to ask: anyone noticed a difference in the decoder/installer for different versions of the ati cards?

For example: I've got an 9800pro and X800pro and both CD's labelled to avoid confusion, but when I install the decoder *ONLY* the 9800 disk will
work for either card.

Odd, but frustrating.

But if t_v's meathod is as sound as it sounds, all will be bliss.

[tommy_vercetti]

Hey dude,

Do post whether it worked or not. would be happy to know that it worked.

[devangx5]

Hi This post has been very useful for me in installing the ATI DVD Decoder. Thank you very much tommy_vercetti.

[tommy_vercetti]

You are welcome

[ertik]

Has anybody old SIM file to allow decode more than 2.1 channels ??

It's from version 2 , today's version is probably 6

[tommy_vercetti]

Could anboy tell me that the version above(http://www2.ati.com/drivers/setup.exe) is the latest one or have there been any new versions out, could anybody with newer cards post there views, thanks