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Easy RunOnceEx.cmd Rate Topic: -----

Poll: Do you want it to be easy to create RunOnceEx.cmd (2046 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you want it to be easy to create RunOnceEx.cmd

  1. Yes (1670 votes [91.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.61%

  2. No (33 votes [1.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.81%

  3. What whould be the function? (60 votes [3.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.29%

  4. Maybe (60 votes [3.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.29%

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#91 User is offline   Jose 

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 05:13 PM

Nice. RFE: That the database contains a field with comments. If Acrobat 6 is listed in its .exe form and also in its .msi form, having comments would allow to explain how to get your own .msi from the .exe. But maybe that's for version 2.0 or 3.0 and you could have it in an .xml file. Great program :thumbup Thank you!


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Posted 17 August 2004 - 05:41 PM

Jose, on Aug 17 2004, 05:13 PM, said:

Nice. RFE: That the database contains a field with comments. If Acrobat 6 is listed in its .exe form and also in its .msi form, having comments would allow to explain how to get your own .msi from the .exe. But maybe that's for version 2.0 or 3.0 and you could have it in an .xml file. Great program :thumbup  Thank you!

if you check the helpfile, see the add from database section, that will explain it

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 05:57 PM

Now, the database is OK! B)

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 07:25 PM

eagle00789, on Aug 17 2004, 05:41 PM, said:

Jose, on Aug 17 2004, 05:13 PM, said:

Nice. RFE: That the database contains a field with comments. If Acrobat 6 is listed in its .exe form and also in its .msi form, having comments would allow to explain how to get your own .msi from the .exe. But maybe that's for version 2.0 or 3.0 and you could have it in an .xml file. Great program :thumbup  Thank you!

if you check the helpfile, see the add from database section, that will explain it

Ok, got that. But that falls short of an explanation like this for Adobe Acrobat:

1. Start the original Acrobat 6.0.1 setup.
2. It will de-compress itself from the FEAD optimizer
3. Look in "C:\Windows\Cache" for the installer with MSI.
4. Open a command-window into that folder, and run the main MSI with the "/A" switch to make an admin-install point folder.
5. Copy away that folder safely, and install from there.
6. Download the 6.0.2 update, and start the setup, but don't click "Next".
7. Look in the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Local Settings\Temp\_is---" to get the extracted update.
8. Now keep both the admin-install and the update in one folder.
9. SFX them to extract silently to a folder of your choice.
10.Have your unattended scripts run both (the main+update) the MSIs with the /QB switch.

The total time-saved during uA setup = 2 mins.
Space saved on CD = 10 MB.

In time the database can be a fantastic resource all by itself. Having all kinds of information for different ways of setting up the different programs. In any case, that was just an RFE for the future ;)

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 07:57 PM

Excellent app! Will add this to the RunOnceEx guides :)

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  Posted 17 August 2004 - 08:02 PM

@eagle00789

Are you looking to include more applications in your database to be included standard or would you prefer users add thier own? If you are looking to add more to the database as a standard configuration i would like to help you in this regard.

I think this is a great tool and would like to help it grow. :thumbup

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 10:26 PM

Hey,

Nice work man. Error gone and remembering. :)

And BTW I hope you add more and more with an auto update option myself.

Though there needs to be a better way of choosing predefined solutions. Two arrows wont be enough when it goes over 100. Hard enough at 30.

Possibly a drop down list. Categorized by type of app maybe. And maybe a master list as well by first character of app. In of course, alphabetized order.

Also maybe on the "Add from Database" window you should an an X to close the window next to the ?.

Also how about making right clicking in an empty row opens the "Add Command" window.

Also when clicking the X to close the app when there are unsaved changes. Perhaps it would be wise to add a cancel button as well. Just in cause you did not mean to close the app. Would save time having to say yes save and having to reload app and then Load the settings.

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 01:23 AM

more & more suggestions...all are good. eagle00789 has got much work to do. B)

Well, here's mine, too:

- There should be a way a user can add his own apps to the database in a GUI env.
- When uninstalling the app itself, tabstop must go to Yes, not No.

Thanks for your easy and simple GUI. :thumbup

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 05:20 AM

@Jose: i will add that kind of stuff to the helpfile, because not that many programs have to be extracted.

@Aaron: Thanks. i enjoy it that you will add it there.

@Felix: I currently am adding about 250 programs to the list, but any help is always helpfull

@war59312: The autoupdate feature is on it's way in the next version. (Possibly 2.0) (done)
There will be a dropdown list, in wich you can type the name of the program. (done)
It will be sorted alfabeticly (done)
I Left the X out on purpose, so that you realy have to push the cancel button, because i know that many people like the X, but it's not a correct way of closing a program. (Will have a descent menu in the next version (done))

@Mazin: The user adding part will be incorporated in the next version. (done)
The uninstaller is not my work. it is a standard program (Inno Setup) and can't control that yet.

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 05:47 AM

It's nice of you. Thanks.

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 08:45 AM

I'm working on version 2.0 right now.

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 09:01 AM

awesome job

this database could really become the "official" program switches database and if it could be regularly updated with everyone posting new apps switches im pretty sure this could help ALOT of people.

sticky ?

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 09:02 AM

Well done! :thumbup:

And... :w00t: you're using an EXTREMELY FAST server!!!! 855 kilobyte/sec here! :o

P.S.: I'll add it to my translation of MSFN's tutorial too, if you don't mind!

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 09:05 AM

eagle00789, on Aug 18 2004, 05:45 PM, said:

I'm working on version 2.0 right now.

Take care of this switch: /Reboot=Suppress. It's not correct if used with the slash.

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 09:39 AM

@Bâshrat the Sneaky: I don't mind. go ahead. By the way, that server is from my internet service provider

@mazin: For wich program, or is it in the default switches part

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 10:06 AM

eagle00789, on Aug 18 2004, 06:39 PM, said:

@mazin: For wich program, or is it in the default switches part

25;'Norton Systemworks 2003';'Setup.exe';'/qn /Reboot=Suppress';0

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 11:34 AM

eagle00789, on Aug 18 2004, 10:39 AM, said:

@Bâshrat the Sneaky: I don't mind. go ahead. By the way, that server is from my internet service provider

@mazin: For wich program, or is it in the default switches part

really and truly, is any Windows Installer installs if you it showed more then once :whistle:


As for teh "official" database, perhaps (I haven't opened the program yet) but not everyone uses RunOnceEX, though this will probally convert a good chunk of those batch peopel seeing as it could be easier.

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 11:59 AM

eagle00789, on Aug 18 2004, 09:09 PM, said:

@mazin: For wich program, or is it in the default switches part

Basically, the reboot is a Windows Installer property, not a switch. So, wherever you have an MSI setup, the correct way to reject a reboot is
REBOOT=Suppress
(note that there was no "/" preceding it).


Moreover, some installers want the property to be all capitals, which is why I have it that way above ("REBOOT" and not "Reboot"). Also, some I've seen some setups needing
REBOOT=ReallySuppress
(that switch to reject a reboot, instead of the one to simply "suppress" above)

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 01:35 PM

Well, prathapml!

No problem giving a quick shot /off topic/. This is what I say:

Reboot is a property. (Nobody said it's a switch)
Either Suppress or ReallySuppress is a value.
Either Reboot=Suppress or Reboot=ReallySuppress is a switch, as I said above. Why? Because any command put on the command line for the purpose of changing the behaviour of installation MUST be called a switch.
Or I should say: What does a property do if put on the command line? Nothing, of course!

Moreover, those switches aren't picked arbitrarily. Each switch has its own purpose.
Plus, Reboot=S and Reboot=R are also correct! No slash in either case, as I said above.

ChEeRs!

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 06:47 PM

eagle00789, on Aug 18 2004, 05:20 AM, said:

@war59312: The autoupdate feature is on it's way in the next version. (Possibly 2.0) (done)
There will be a dropdown list, in wich you can type the name of the program. (done)
It will be sorted alfabeticly (done)
I Left the X out on purpose, so that you realy have to push the cancel button, because i know that many people like the X, but it's not a correct way of closing a program. (Will have a descent menu in the next version (done))

@Mazin: The user adding part will be incorporated in the next version. (done)

The new version with the above suggestions worked into it.
There is only 1 small thing. The Helpfile is NOT updated yes.
Also, the promised 250 programs that will be added to the database is not yet done. there is 1 program extra wich is not yet on the list. (Skype .95 beta is added)

If you want to add your own program to the Main database of the program, wich will be added in the updatefile, the submit your program to me thru a Private Message. Only submit the following:

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ProgramName:
InstallerExecutable:
Parameters:
Extract:

The Extraction is only a yes or no. If extraction is needed in a special way, (like run the main installer and look in a special folder to find another file there) then include that in the pm.

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