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#81 User is offline   Cee-Kay 

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 05:03 AM

Ok, I've uploaded the file, which is ready to be downloaded. Please be gentle in reporting bugs. :)

You can download the installer from here.

Simply double click the SFX archive to extract the MSI installer to the current directory... well you know the rest.

NOTE: This installer is intended for use with the updated client files, version 9.0.0.1400 only, otherwise problems will occur when you try and install using an unpatched version of SAV. (See prathapml's post on the first page for patching instructions).

Installer Change log:

1.0a : Initial Release
1.0b : Changed to correct bug reported by drthawhizkid, please download the latest version.


Bug Reports:

"There was a problem trying to register with Live Update. Live Update will not be available for this product" [Fixed].



Updates:

I been having some problems extracting the lastest definitions from the x86 updates, as far as I can tell this is only a problem on Windows XP SP2. If the x86 version doesn't work for you either, download the i32 version from here.

Extracting the contents from the i32 version, to replace the older definitions included with the Client works fine, without LiveUpdate downloading them again. :thumbup



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Posted 29 August 2004 - 05:55 AM

@C.K.

I'll check it and report back.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:04 AM

All right Cee-Kay I test it too.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:29 AM

Who invented the idea of extracting virus definitions? :thumbdown If I only can catch him/her!!!
Unfortunately, I couldn't test Cee-Kay's file due to that problem.

Neither x86 nor i32 works! :thumbdown

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:35 AM

Fortunately, I can get the i32 version to work

However, even when I try to double-click on the x86 version a very quick dialogue box comes up (I've got a screenshot somewhere) which says Windows cannot run 16-bit apps. Now I know for certain that I've never had this problem before, so I'm pretty confident that it's SP2 that's at fault.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:44 AM

The i32 version worked for me. I extracted it to a seperate directory and moved the files to the virusdefs and it worked fine for me. On a bad note Cee-Kay I tried a silent installation of SAV (using /qb) and I got this error (See Screenshot)

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:57 AM

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Would you please give me a direct link to i32 you've downloaded?

Thanks.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 11:04 AM

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On a bad note Cee-Kay I tried a silent installation of SAV (using /qb) and I got this error (See Screenshot)
Sorry about that drthawhizkid, I hoped bugs wouldn't appear so quickly, :huh: nevertheless I'll start looking at what's causing this problem.

UPDATE: Hopefully, I've fixed this bug, please download the latest version at the top of this page. Once this bug has been reported as solved, I will update the change log accordingly.

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Would you please give me a direct link to i32 you've downloaded?

Sure thing, you can download the i32 version here

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 11:23 AM

Cee-Kay, on Aug 29 2004, 08:04 PM, said:

Sure thing, you can download the i32 version here

Thanks. I haven't seen your updated post above, too.

I'll try again and see.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 12:21 PM

mazin, on Aug 29 2004, 09:59 PM, said:

Who invented the idea of extracting virus definitions? :thumbdown If I only can catch him/her!!!
LOL, symantec themselves.
I saw that info and me and and a few others have been spreading that idea since many months.


The point is that it (when extracted) works perfectly with NAV 200x versions. But the SAV versions have a hiccup. Hoping that all you guys get that process working, and please give details of what you did to solve it. :thumbup

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 01:12 PM

@mazin I hope you get the latest virus defs to work for ya. @cee-kay I'm testing SAV now to see if it works. I will report any errors if I find any. Later.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 01:44 PM

@cee-kay Bad news I'm still getting the error I reported earlier when trying to install SAV. I tried both my Main OS (on my laptop) and a Virtual OS (VMWare).

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 02:19 PM

Bad news about extracting V.Defs will come soon!

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 03:02 PM

hi,

just downloaded the actual i32.exe and ran this:
20040828-003-i32.exe /Extract .\viri

copied it over to the admin install point and all runs fine...

hope this helps a bit

cya

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BTW: 1400-patch was applied and i ran a quiet LU v2.5-setup after it and no updates were available...

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 04:30 PM

==========================================================
-- Orig Defs Files -- | i32 Defs Files -- | x86 Defs Files
==========================================================
01 X ---------------- | UPDATE.TXT ------ | UPDATE.TXT
02 VIRSCAN1.DAT ----- | VIRSCAN1.DAT ---- | X
03 VIRSCAN3.DAT ----- | VIRSCAN3.DAT ---- | X
04 VIRSCAN4.DAT ----- | VIRSCAN4.DAT ---- | X
05 VIRSCANT.DAT ----- | X --------------- | X
06 X ---------------- | X --------------- | DEFATTRS.DAT
07 X ---------------- | X --------------- | ECOMSRVR.NLM
08 X ---------------- | X --------------- | INSCANM.DAT
09 X ---------------- | X --------------- | LIC.DAT
10 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVENG.NLM
11 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVENG16.DLL
12 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX.EXP
13 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX.NLM
14 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX.SYS
15 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX.VXD
16 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX15.NLM
17 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX15.WLD
18 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX16.DLL
19 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX16A.DLL
20 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX32.DLL
21 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVLIC.DAT
22 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VERSION.DAT
23 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN.DAT
24 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN1.DEF
25 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN2.DEF
26 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN2.PAM
27 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN3.DEF
28 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN4.DEF
29 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCANM.DAT
30 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRWILD1.DAT
31 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRWILD2.DAT
32 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRWILD3.DAT
33 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRWILD4.DAT
==========================================================


X means not found.

As seen from the table, we're fooled by the idea of extracting virus definitions files. Neither i32 files nor x86 files are capable of performing REAL updating!

Well, you might say that you used i32 files successfully. And I'd say that you're fooled! Why?
Because you overwrote the existing files, thus, you left the old "VIRSCANT.DAT" and added "UPDATE.TXT" which wouldn't be installed, of course.

If you want to believe me, do the following:

1- Go to: C:\Program Files\Symantec AntiVirus\Virus Defs\, and you'll be surprised! "UPDATE.TXT" isn't there. HUH!?
2- Get connected to the Internet, run LiveUpdate, and you'll be surprised! SAV downloads updates that are supposed to be, already, on your computer. HUH!?

What if you use x86 files? The worst, of course.

What if you delete all old files before pasting extracted files of i32 or x86? Installation of SAV will be interrupted asking for "VIRSCANT.DAT". This was exactly what happened to me!

There are worse events, but this is enough for now.

Solution? Maybe!

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 04:44 PM

hi,

but i think it is working, because LiveUpdate(v2.5) says that everything is up to date and don't want to download anything...

hope this helps a bit

cya

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 05:07 PM

hi,

just done a second installation and LU says everything is up-to-date...

what i have done:

1. created a admin install point with setup.exe /A
2. downloaded newest i32-virus definitions from here.
3. created a folder named viri in the same dir as the virus-defs are
4. ran virdefs with ...-i32.exe /Extract .\viri
5. copied everything from .\viri to the admin install point \Program Files\Symantec Antivirus\virus defs
6. downloaded SAVCE_9.0.0.1400_AllWin_EN .msp
7. integrated the update within the main program with this one
msiexec /p "SAVCE_9.0.0.1400_AllWin_EN .msp" /a "Symantec AntiVirus.msi" /QB

8. put it on my CD and ran it with
Symantec Antivirus.msi /QB

9. downloaded and extracted the Liveupdate v2.5 update and installed it with
lusetup -q


thats it and it works perfect

hope this helps a bit

cya

Killer Bee

BTW: it gets installed @ T-12min and is ofcourse unattended

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 05:56 PM

Well for me mazin the virus defs say they are updated and works like killerbee said. I did what killerbee did and everything was fine.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 11:40 PM

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Thanks for the confirmation.

There may not be updates available for LU itself because you didn't integrate it, but performed live installation instead.
But did you try checking V.Defs updates more than one time? If you did and there were no updates available, then i32 works fine for you given that you overwrote the source, but not cleaned the source as I explained earlier.

However, can you tell me why people complained with SAV trying to download updates after installation despite V.Defs were integrated?
If my explanation did not provide the answer, then I'm completely wrong, despite the fact that MSIs install files by name!

Thanks.

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 12:10 AM

@mazin I ran LiveUpdate more than once to see if it would show updates and it didn't. I don't know why its not working for ya. Sorry I hope you find an solution.

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