[joebells]

is msmsgs supported for a sp2 unattened installation? I ask because the new ref.chm for sp2 doesn't list it and instead lists WMAccess. I put them both in my winnt.sif but I thought I'd ask while I'm finishing up my cd to maybe save me from having to burn another cd.

[gamehead200]

Have you tried using nLite? It can remove it completely...

[joebells]

no I just for some reason don't want to use nlite, no offense to the programmer, I imagine it works pretty good but I have read of some problems here and there and would rather just leave messenger in if it comes to that than mess around with another program. thanks for the suggestion though.