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#1 User is offline   Spoke Lee 

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:20 PM

Here is my problem (taken from my topic on the andandtech.com forums):

So I finally get my system setup, but I can't install windows cause it wont detect my hard drive. So I call tyan and I find out I gotta put in the IDE disk that has the sata drivers on it at the setup by hitting f6. But it wont read the disk. I fixed this by flipping the ide ribbon over. So everything is going good untill the **** thing says the file si3114.sys cant be copied, retry, skip, or cancel. I skipped it and there were a bunch of other files it say the same thing about. So I skipped, and it reboot to start installing windows after partitioning, and I got a bsod telling me the drive isnt gonna work and crap.

I know the disk isnt corrupted because I even made my own disk and it didnt work. I read around online and found that the disk may not be set up right as you have to put certain files in the root of the floppy and some in a folder. But the files on mine are all in the root. Just in case this is the problem, here is a copy of the txtsetup.oem file:

; This file installs the SiI 3114 non-RAID serial ATA driver as part
; of text mode setup on Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP,
; and Windows Server 2003.
;
; Copyright © 2003 by Silicon Image, Inc.
; All rights reserved


[Disks]
disk1 = "Silicon Image SiI 3114 SATALink Driver Installation Disk",\si3114.sys,


[Defaults]
SCSI = Si3114_XP


[SCSI] ; HwComponent section
Si3114_XP = "Silicon Image SiI 3114 SATALink Controller for Windows XP/Server 2003"
Si3114_NT = "Silicon Image SiI 3114 SATALink Controller for Windows NT 4.0 and 2000"


[Files.SCSI.Si3114_XP]
driver = disk1,si3114.sys, Si3114
driver = disk1,SiWinAcc.sys, SiFilter
inf = disk1,SI3114.inf
dll = disk1,SilSupp.cpl
catalog = disk1, Si3114.cat


[Files.SCSI.Si3114_NT]
driver = disk1,si3114.sys, Si3114
inf = disk1,SI3114.inf
dll = disk1,SilSupp.cpl
catalog = disk1, Si3114.cat


[HardwareIds.SCSI.Si3114_XP]
id = "PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3114&SUBSYS_31141095", "Si3114"

[HardwareIds.SCSI.Si3114_NT]
id = "PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3114&SUBSYS_31141095", "Si3114"

[Config.Si3114]
value = ProblemDevices, "", REG_SZ, ""
value = ProblemDevices, "Maxtor 4D060H3 DAK05GK0", REG_SZ, "MaxMode = UDMA-5"

and here are all the files on the floppy:


readme.txt, si3114.sys, sisupp.cpl, si3114.inf, txtsetup.oem, si3114.cat, driverlanguagemap.xml, si3114.mpd, sisupp.vxd, and siwinacc.sys

The os im trying to install is xp pro and my system stats are as follows:

Tiger K8W S2875 dual atx mobo
2 opteron 250 processors
2 gigs (1gbx2) of pqi turbo reg ecc pc3200 ram
bfg geforce 6800 ultra oc vid card
74 gig raptor drive
300 gig 16mb cache maxtor
poineer 108 dvd burner

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

update - I've been rearranging the files on the disk, no luck so far.

update -tried a floppy I made using the Sil3114 RAID Disk creation utility from asus.com, same problem

update -Im on the phone with tyan and so far I have switched the ribbon cable and the cdrom its attached to, plugged it into the primary ide, and used different ram, still no luck.

update - Ok I just got off the phone with tech support, and I tried a usb floppy drive, and set it to raid instead of ultra in the bios and used the other driver disc, and no luck. They told me to call back monday, and they will look into it further after talking to some people at their lab.


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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:25 PM

Pls Provide Info on what type of system you hv pls be as detailed as possible. Manufacturer, brand, model no., age of computer, motherboard etc. anything u can think of.

are u running xp, sp1 or sp2

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:25 PM

Pls Provide Info on what type of system you hv pls be as detailed as possible. Manufacturer, brand, model no., age of computer, motherboard etc. anything u can think of.

are u running xp, sp1 or sp2

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:28 PM

Tiger K8W S2875 dual atx mobo
2 opteron 250 processors
2 gigs (1gbx2) of pqi turbo reg ecc pc3200 ram
bfg geforce 6800 ultra oc vid card
74 gig raptor drive
300 gig 16mb cache maxtor
poineer 108 dvd burner

I built the system myself, and I am not running any windows as I cant install. This is a fresh install I am trying.

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:33 PM

not familiar with your motherboard is it intel base?

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:35 PM

amd

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:44 PM

are you using an unattended install? because F6 does not work with an unattended install (it gives the same error you are describing)

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:47 PM

did u check your bios? Are the drives showing up?

you got your raid driver from asus?


are u booting with a Unattended Windows XP cd w/ sp1 or sp2?

"and I got a bsod telling me the drive isnt gonna work and crap. "

i am sure it does say this... what exactly was the message.

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:47 PM

No I am not, I am wondering if an unattended install will solve this problem.

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:50 PM

The drives show up in the bios. I got my drivers from tyans site, and then also from asus, since asus had the same silicon image drivers on there site, except theirs had a floppy disc creation wizard, which I used incase my problem was the disc not being set up right. But it didnt help.

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 11:33 PM

yeah, an unattended install can/"should" fix your problem.

I would use this method described in this post:

http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=19792

Read through the whole post, and make sure to read my post at the end of it too.

Honestly though, if you are using a regular windows xp cd then you shouldn't have any problems with the F6. My problem started once I tried using an unattended cd to do my install.

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 12:28 AM

Well if it helps any, I am using the xp pro disc that came with my old alienware.

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 01:28 AM

that could be the problem, you may be using an unattended disc that alienware made. How can you check? look in the i386 directory for a file called winnt.sif. That should only exist if you are using an unattended cd.

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 01:39 AM

Well I'll be dammned, there is a winnt.sif file. So what can I do now?

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 01:41 AM

Can I fix it by editing the winnt.sif file? If so heres what it says:

[Data]
AutoPartition=1
MsDosInitiated="0"
UnattendedInstall="Yes"

[Unattended]
Unattendmode="defaulthide"
OemPreinstall="yes"
OemSkipEula="No"

[UserData]
FullName="Your User Name"
OrgName="Your Company Name"
ComputerName=*
ProductID=ppppppppppppppppppppppp

[GuiUnattended]
TimeZone="004"
AdminPassword=*
AutoLogon=Yes
OEMSkipRegional=1
OEMSkipWelcome=1

[Identification]
JoinWorkgroup=Workgroup

[Display]
BitsPerPel=4
XResolution=800
YResolution=600
VRefresh=70

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 02:50 AM

dude, don't show your install key!

anyways, you can copy the entire contents of that cd to a folder on your hard drive. Lets say C:\xpcd

now, delete the winnt.sif

Now you need to remake the cd again. THe easiest way I can think of is to download Nlite

http://nuhi.msfn.org/

then use it to "make an Iso". Basically just select your XPCD folder and make an iso, you don't have to use Nlite to reduce your windows unless you want too.

Now burn your iso. use it to install.

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 03:16 AM

one problem is do we know for sure if there are anymore modified files. And will those modified file cause more problems later. and legally he is not allow to use an xp cd from another system, for his new one. Now realistically... it is a different story.
I personally don't use nlite. Wouldn't it be easier to just purchase a WindowsXP Pro from Walmart, Kmart, Compusa, Circuit City, or whatever online store you like.

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 02:01 PM

crap i didnt even notice the **** key, ****

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