[bledd]

Ryan, it really is a nice pack to have, breathes a bit of new life into XP

[fluid]

What's included in the hotfix files?

I can't download the files. Other links?

[XPero]

Removed: info about old version

[fluid]

Thanks man. Does this work hand in hand with Ryan's update pack?

[XPero]

Removed: info about old version

[XPero]

XPize 2.5 Installer is out. First post edited.
Enjoy!

[keytotime]

XPero if you want to zpize the admin tools these are the files you need to modify
certmgr.dll
mycomput.dll
ciadmin.dll
devmgr.dll
dfrgres.dll
dmdskres.dll
els.dll
filemgmt.dll
mmc.exe
netplwiz.dll
sysmon.ocx
gpedit.dll
wsecedit.dll
comsnap.dll

[XPero]

keytotime, on Dec 18 2004, 02:43 AM, said:

XPero if you want to zpize the admin tools these are the files you need to modify
certmgr.dll
mycomput.dll
ciadmin.dll
devmgr.dll
dfrgres.dll
dmdskres.dll
els.dll
filemgmt.dll
mmc.exe
netplwiz.dll
sysmon.ocx
gpedit.dll
wsecedit.dll
comsnap.dll

Thanks All those will be for 3.0

[keytotime]

Sure, I love your packs so much the least i could do is help .

Oops
comsnap.dll - dosn't have any bitmaps or icons or anything editable

[XPero]

Good news about XPize installer: you can install it silently with the /S switch.
Example:

"XPize v2.5.exe" /S

You could also just rename it without the space, then you wouldn't need the quotes.
Example:

XPize.exe /S

make sure in your unattended file though you're using start /wait



EDIT: Does this mean that we can rid of "classic" XPize packs? Need some testers. Please report your experiences with this method. Thanks

[kalavera]

NO! Don't get rid of classic packs ... maybe create a patcher (not installer) for the installation files, this way no more probs with versions, just change the resources of the dlls.

[keytotime]

Don't get rid of the classic packs.
1. Increase install time
2. Increase size of cd
3. Increase size of xp when installed
4. Increases time needed to install xp.
5. Forces use of $oem$ folders

[RyanVM]

I'm inclined to agree that classic packs should remain. Direct integration is very nice and like keytotime said, it allows users to use it without necessarily having an unattended CD.

[sfamonkey]

RyanVM, on Dec 18 2004, 07:34 PM, said:

I'm inclined to agree that classic packs should remain.  Direct integration is very nice and like keytotime said, it allows users to use it without necessarily having an unattended CD.

there is still the orginal files
There towards the end of the first post.
He decide to get a installer cause people @ n e o w i n wanted to install the pack but not reinstall windows

[klasa]

i think the updater needs to be an extra in the "unattended" pack, so users who don't want to use the installer can still be able to update his/her files with the updater

[flyakite]

@keytotime
1)Increases install time? What by two minutes, the only time you'll ever install it? If you can't spare two minutes you must lead a very important life.

2) Increases size of XP cd? By 4.5mb? If you aren't using any $OEM$ folders on your cd your XP installation would easily fit on a cd with room to spare anyway.

3) Increases size of XP when installed?... only because it backs up your files and it keeps the resources on your system so the updater will work. If you don't want that stuff just delete the XPize folder in your Windows directory (it's hidden by default). Just keep in mind if you delete the whole folder you can't use the update feature or the uninstaller. And it only increases the size of XP by maybe 50mb or so. If you can't spare that much space on your hard drive you need a new hard drive.

4) Increases time needed to install xp. Yes, like number 1, by another two minutes maybe. How many times do you install xp? And if you have the time to install xp over and over I think you can spare a couple of minutes.

5) It does not force the use of $OEM$ folders. You don't have to use it unattended. Just install it after you've installed XP. Once again, I doubt you reinstall XP every day or even week, and even if you do it takes only a couple minutes to install XPize from the installer. Go get a drink of water or something while you wait. And even if you have to use $OEM$ folders, that takes maybe a minute to setup if you're already using an unattended winnt.sif file.


@klasa
The updater cannot be an extra in the classic pack. It does not work that way. The installer copies the raw resources (icons, bitmaps, avis) to the system, moddifies the file on your machine, and then writes the file size of the newly moddified file to the registry. The updater then compares the file size stored in the registry with the file size of the actual file on the system. If the sizes differ, the file is updated, if the sizes are the same the file is left alone.

Not only that, but the updater requires that the raw resources be stored on the computer, so that it can mod the new file with the resources. Meaning in an unattended pack, where the resource folders aren't copied over to the computer, the updater can't update the file because no resources exist on the system. How's it gonna update the file if it can't find any info in the registry and the resources aren't on the system to mod the file with? Not to mention the updater requires certain tools to do what it does and to replace the file, because it's actually done on restart using a special method.

There is no way the updater can be done seperately without the installer.


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It's not like the installer includes spyware or copies a lot of weird stuff to extra folders or even makes your system slower. Everything needed is in the Windows directory in a folder called "XPize". All registry values are written to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\XPize". Pretty simple and clean.

It's a heck of a lot easier to use an $OEM$ install with the XPize installer that works for any file versions, than it is to update the compressed files for every update and make a new xp cd, or to even do it yourself. Once more hotfixes are released, none of the original files in the classic pack will have the same file versions, requiring XPero to update them constantly, which is a pain. Not only does he have to update the files, then you have to makecab all the new files and modpe them, rezip them and find a place to host them again, and let everyone know the files have been updated.

Not only that but having the actual system files isn't smart. Some of the files differ on XP home and XP pro, because XP home doesn't have all the exact features of Pro, and therefore certain dialogs and strings are different or missing. Plus the files would only be in one language, meaning other people would have to make other classic packs for new languages or only English users could use it.

Plus if you do include actual compressed cab files on your cd that are from a bunch of hotfixes, when you reinstall XP, Windows has no idea that those files are from the hotfixes. When you visit Windows update it thinks those hotfixes haven't been installed, even if the files on the system are from newer updates.


READ THIS
If you're still REALLY wanting to include the files in your cd without the installer, you can do this. Once you are ready to make a new XP cd because you're going to reformat, install XPize with the installer, but do NOT restart. You will find all of the newly moddified files in the Windows directory in a the folder XPize\NewFiles (XPize will be hidden by default). You can copy all of the files to a new folder or even move them out of that folder. If you move the files out of the folder and restart, it won't hurt anything. You just won't have the new moddified files installed on your machine.

You can then makecab and modpe all of the files you just copied, add them to your XP cd, and there you go, an XP cd with YOUR correct language and version files all with the XPize resources. This method allows everyone to do it, whether you're on XP Pro, Home, Media Center Edition, Server 2003, SP1, SP2, German, French etc.

[kalavera]

flyakite: About the "READ THIS", so why isn't possible to create a simple "updater" that does this same changes over the installation files, instead of needing to mess with the current windows install files (they could not be the latest versions).

[The Black Cloud]

hi

i am sorry about this question

how i can make a intall package like XPize 2.5

thanks

[sfamonkey]

The Black Cloud, on Dec 22 2004, 07:24 AM, said:

hi

i am sorry about this question

how i can make a intall package like XPize 2.5

thanks

you would have to talk to flyakite. That who made the xpize install package

[XPero]

@flyakite:

@kalavera:
Install Windows with only SP2 integrated (no hotfixes). Install XPize and follow what flyakite have said in his "read this". Save the files on a safe place and you will have the "classic" XPize pack for every reformat

PS: I'm on a trip. Sorry for not replying.