[cancer10]

I am personally against piracy of software. Are you?

I think the authors deserve some money for their hard labour. what ya think?

[Weed]

sure not
if pplz doesnt have the money to buy software then lets download it
it costs all too much money

[cancer10]

wot if the authors pull down the rate of their software to $10 from $100, would u buy then?

[magicfly]

this is my opinion: i can't spend 50 euros for a game that i play one time, and when i've finished that i don't play that anymore... this is like when you buy a record on summer, you buy that because there's a song you like very much but what happens on winter when that song is forgotten?

hope you understand what id' like to say

[Tokugawapants]

I think that pirating is a great way to preview things. If I really really like something that I downloaded, (and it doesn't cost $100000000), I would probably buy it to show my support.

[XtremeMaC]

when is this going to be locked? last piracy topic was locked for ?

[SiMoNsAyS]

well i personally don't agree with any type of piracy but... i frecuently download software or games to take a look at them, then if i really like some1 i buy it. it can't ben considered piracy because (at least in spain) you can download any file if you delete it after 48h.
a similar rule can be applied to music, for me it's too expensive buy any CD for 24€ so i listen mp3 frecuently and then i support the author i really like buying his/her CD.
other thing are cracks or keygens that i consider "inmoral" because they really hurt small software companies.

[Alanoll]

I believe a better question, atleast in the US is if you like the Induce Act and whether or not you downloaded something before it was available, but then buy it the second it hits the shelves. In the case of movies when it's out of theatres but it's not in DVD form yet.

[mazin]

Well!

I'll be boycotting this topic untill the other topic is open again. No vote!

[sven]

it dependsm if there ripping you off, the hell with buying the music for 1 song. if its a good program, always using it and stuff, you should buy it.

[sonu27]

I can't really say.

Because I can't afford all the software I have, but I need it.

But it does take the p*ss when you buy something for a high amount of money, and you see others getting it for free.

Well all I can say is that I'm glad I bought XP Home.

[godan]

it really does depend on how usefull the software is. but nowadays there are so many good opensource apps out there that you really dont have to use the expensive stuff. i most often do not pay for software, but if i feel it is worthy of my cash ill pay for it. heck i have donated money to nlite and thats 100% free.

[indianarchie]

i voted cant say....coz ideally it shud not be there..but there are a lot of issues to consider, before passing a blanket judgement, like the inflated prices charged by the companies.

So i guess its a necessary evil.

[BIGbadjohn]

I voted "yes" with reservations. Some software is rediculously over-priced. Most of my security software is paid for because I believed the price to be reasonable, I certainly wouldn't be involved in taking specialist software for free.

[sonu27]

XtremeMaC, on Oct 24 2004, 07:52 PM, said:

when is this going to be locked? last piracy topic was locked for ?
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I don't believe this topic should be locked up.

We are just discussing and it's nothing bad.

[tjhart85]

I voted no, but with this to say:

MUSIC: CD's are too expensive and the downloading (legal) is crap. I refuse to pay essentially the same amount for a CD (albeit a custom legal CD) that I would for a full CD I bought from the store that comes with the CD, the CD case, the CD jacker and the backing in the CD case. That's just my take on it.

SOFTWARE: Any software I really like and use a lot I pay for. Its as simple as that.

MOVIES (THEATER): I have downloaded movies, and 9/10 times if the movie is good I will actually pay to see it in theaters.

MOVIES (DVD): DVD's are expensive, for no reason. I do NOT care about all the extras they put onto a DVD (I do like the subs, but thats it), and I don't like that they charge more for a DVD than a VHS when the media for a VHS costs more. If I really like the movie I will pay for it. Or I will have my copies and wait for the monster box sets to come out (SPIDER-MAN, SPIDER-MAN2, same with XMEN series and STAR-WARS).

My take on it is if you really like what you hear, see, or use then buy it.

[lylo]

Its a harsh topic but one that has gotta be confronted in some way.

Yes, I will admit I do have a significant amount of pirated software installed on my computer, and it is essential for me. I'm a 17 year old student with no form of income and so torrent sites can be essential to me, and I'm sure to tonnes of other people. Games, I download, only to try out, I am a keen gamer, and I will happily save up what little I can week by week and eventually go out and buy it, knowing that I can take full advantage of it.

Music is pretty similar, I will download music, but if I find something I truly love, then I'll go out and buy it.

Like said before in here, its a kind of nessecary evil. :/

[robchurch]

It's interesting that people don't seem to appreciate the amount of hard work that goes into developing even the simplest software.

I personally don't condone piracy of any kind. It's the same as theft.

[lylo]

I certainly didn't mean to say I don't appreciate the effort people go to when developing software, but some people can afford to buy alot of this or to donate, while others cant. Chances are though, that no matter which of these two groups a person falls into, sooner or later, a certain piece of software WILL be essential to them.

[un4given1]

What's overpriced? Let's say you pay $50 for a game. That game keeps you entertained for 20 hours. That means you paid $2.50 an hour for entertainment. You can't even go bowling for that cheap. You can't play pool. You can't go see a movie for that. There is almost NOTHING you can do for $2.50 an hour. So, lets say you buy a CD. It's got an hour of audio on it. You pay $15.00 for it. If you listen to it for a total of 6 10 hours you paid only $1.50 an hour for the entertainment of that. If you buy Windows XP for your PC and you pay $200 for it. It runs your PC for 3 years. That's about $67 a year for the entertainment your PC provides.

You need to keep in mind that when you buy a CD or DVD you aren't simply paying for the cost to put that movie or song on it's media. We certainly know that's not all that goes into it. You pay the salary of the publishing people who worked to port that movie to DVD. You pay for advertising (don't argue this one... if companies didn't advertise you may never know a movie existed). You pay for the cost of the store keeping hundreds of copies of that product on hand so you can walk in and buy it at any time. You pay for the cost of having it shipped all around the world.

Now, I understand that some people will download something and if they like it they buy it. I'm not sure how I feel about this, but they are certainly more honorable than the others. But, don't for a moment think that it's legal for you to do that. If you have not paid for a product you have stolen it. If you are looking at a 2005 Mustang and decide one night you are going to take it for a spin without permission. Do you think the cop is going to buy "Oh, I was just testing it out, I'm going to buy one tomorrow" Not quite.