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#21 User is offline   Acheron 

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 07:31 AM

Does Microsoft have these updates localized?

For Windows 98 SE Dutch I need a lot of those fixes, but I don't know if they are available anymore in Dutch. Nevertheless I found exescope:

http://hp.vector.co....3525/Eindex.htm

Way better than Resource Hacker, so I'll change the entries manually :P

Translated to Dutch so far:

user.exe (4.10.0.2231)
mprserv.dll (4.10.0.2224)
vfwwdm32.dll (4.10.0.2223)


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Posted 26 January 2005 - 01:25 PM

This method does work. I asked MS for Q243220 and they sent to to me, no questions asked. Quick, too - they sent it the day after I emailed. I followed sybesma's script pretty closely.


To: wrhelp@microsoft.com
Subject: Request for fix for KB Q243220

Hi,

My computer is currently running Windows 98 SE, and I'm getting an error message that says this:

The remote server machine does not exist or is unavailable (Error 462)

After searching the Help and Support KB, I found an article titled "COM Internet Services Do Not Work Without ProxyOverride Entry" (Q243220) which mentions my exact problem.

Is there any way you can e-mail me the fix mentioned in the article?

Thanks,


The support email specifically said they were sending me the English version, so I imagine localized versions exist.

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 07:30 PM

is this what you need? http://www.softwarep.../win98y2k1.html

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 11:08 AM

you've linked to the wrong patch, horsecharles. The Win98 y2k update 1 is
for Win98 1st edition systems and NOT for Win98 2nd ed.

stuffie699, can you explain further on what version of timedate.cpl file you need.
And are u using Win98 FE (1st edition) or Win98 SE (2nd edition).

Yes, localized editions of Win98/ME hotfixes do exist. You just have to specify
the one provided in your language. if an ms article mentions an 'English' version
of a hotfix, MS should have it in another language such as spanish, dutch or german.
However, it can NOT be the other way around. If a 'specified' language version
of a patch such as the Q320798 kernel32.dll patch is only provided in that language, there can neither be an English version nor any version in other
languages than the one specified in the MS article.

The Q320798 hotfix is for Korean editions of Win98 only and not for non-Korean
versions of Win98. Read MS article 320798 very carefully. So there is NO English
version of the Q320798 patch.

And be sure when requesting hotfixes from MS, you CLEARLY explain the problem
your are having to MS and specify the KB article that best describes your problem AND you mention
the hotfix number that you need. This is so you won't get any further delays from MS support.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 11:21 AM

So, sorry....thank thee, erpdude8 ;)

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 06:04 AM

horsecharles, on Jan 31 2005, 11:21 AM, said:

So, sorry....thank thee, erpdude8 ;)

your welcome, horsecharles.

I should have said 'specified', non-English language version in my previous comment. just needed to clarify that.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 06:07 AM

CLASYS, on Dec 10 2004, 02:26 AM, said:

How about Q290831 for ME?  The 98SE version is available on this one...

cjl

CLASYS, I have recently requested the Q290831 patch for Windows ME and will receive it within a day or two. Click on my username to email me when you get the chance if you need the patch.

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Posted 18 February 2005 - 10:25 AM

soldier1st, on Dec 29 2004, 05:05 PM, said:

ms would tell me no
i know for sure
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>


note to soldier1st:

I asked sybesma by email on requesting hotfixes from M$ a few days ago. He says if MS turns you down, you have to send your request again and again until MS gives you the hotfix you specify. Each time you send a request for a hotfix, a different MS support
rep. will respond to your request.

you may want to discuss this with sybesma personally. kudos to sybesma for bringing up the topic on requesting MS hotfixes.

#29 User is offline   sybesma 

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 07:16 PM

In fact, you often have to ask them twice because it's a 'training issue' shall we say, with India tech support.

Some of them think they aren't allowed to send them and some of them that have been around for a while will send them to you on the first request.

I have never had to ask them a 3rd time yet.

BTW, erp: I got the hotfix you requested, both the server and workstation version were sent to me on the 2nd request.

Never, never allow a first refusal to discourage you.

Like I said, I have never had to ask a 3rd time.

You just have to get to another person there sometimes that is allowed to think for themselves.

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Posted 23 February 2005 - 04:34 AM

stuffie699 said:

Well i stumbled onto this site because I have the same problem.  I need the TIMEDATE.cpl.  Although after reading all postings, and downloading the SP 1.6.2., )thank you very much, searching MS, I can not seem to stumble to the fix.

OS 98se, error occurred while windows was working with the control panel

Help would be appreciated.  Thank you very much
Microsoft Windows 98/98 SE System Date Error TIMEDATE.CPL (build 4.10.2006 for Win98/98 SP1 + build 4.10.2225 for Win98 SE) Fix:
http://support.micro....com/?id=237493
Direct download [166 KB, English]:
http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/CPatch/msupdate/.../237493usa8.exe

Most 98SE fixes:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#98SE

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Posted 23 February 2005 - 08:31 AM

guess this forum thread can also be useful when requesting patches for obsolete Win95
and the now unsupported WinNT4.

i didn't play close attention to what stuffie699 said for Windows version so he
really does use Win98se. in that case follow what MDGx said to get the timedate.cpl
fix.

like i said in another thread, i'm not going to ask MS again for the Q246615 hotfix.
MS didn't put the actual patch in the hotfix package they sent me and only had the
readme file. i'm taking a break in asking for MS hotfixes for a few weeks so i
can get back to more important things in life.

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Posted 24 February 2005 - 09:37 AM

erpdude8, on Feb 23 2005, 08:31 AM, said:

guess this forum thread can also be useful when requesting patches for obsolete Win95
and the now unsupported WinNT4.

i didn't play close attention to what stuffie699 said for Windows version so he
really does use Win98se.  in that case follow what MDGx said to get the timedate.cpl
fix.

like i said in another thread, i'm not going to ask MS again for the Q246615 hotfix.
MS didn't put the actual patch in the hotfix package they sent me and only had the
readme file.  i'm taking a break in asking for MS hotfixes for a few weeks so i
can get back to more important things in life.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>


India support is giving me tons of grief over the 242941 hotfix you were asking for.
The same !@#$% (Abhiranjan) keeps replying to my e-mails denying my request.
It's like a broken record. I don't think this !@#$% sends out hotfixes to anyone.

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Posted 24 February 2005 - 09:40 AM

sybesma, on Feb 19 2005, 07:16 PM, said:

In fact, you often have to ask them twice because it's a 'training issue' shall we say, with India tech support.

Some of them think they aren't allowed to send them and some of them that have been around for a while will send them to you on the first request.

I have never had to ask them a 3rd time yet.

BTW, erp: I got the hotfix you requested, both the server and workstation version were sent to me on the 2nd request.

Never, never allow a first refusal to discourage you.

Like I said, I have never had to ask a 3rd time.

You just have to get to another person there sometimes that is allowed to think for themselves.
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I must have jinxed myself now that I've had to ask for 242941 four times now.

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Posted 25 February 2005 - 05:04 AM

not so. try asking for a different Win98 patch sybesma. i know with requesting
most but not all win98 hotfixes, ms usually get it right the first time. with some of the hotfixes,
they say they may not have them anymore and can potentially cause more problems
than fixing them.

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Posted 25 February 2005 - 05:12 AM

FixitMad has posted at the 2.0 RC1 forum page that he got the Q246615 update
from MS. he'll try to send it to me so I'll have to check my email later in the day.

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Posted 25 February 2005 - 08:20 AM

Quote

I must have jinxed myself now that I've had to ask for 242941 four times now.


5th time is a charm.
Just stay away from some guy named Abhiranjan who denied me 3 of the 4 times I was denied on that one.
Got the 242941 fix, FINALLY, and my batting average is back to 1.000 again.

Whew! Didn't think it was ever going to happen for a while there. ;-)

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Posted 25 February 2005 - 09:03 AM

USE THIS INFORMATION VERY, VERY JUDICIOUSLY AND ONLY WHEN YOU ARE HAVING GREAT DIFFICULTY OBTAINING A HOTFIX.

DON'T USE PERSONAL E-MAIL ADDRESSES ON THE FIRST COUPLE FAILED ATTEMPTS. PLEASE USE ONLY AFTER YOU'VE BEEN DENIED THREE TIMES.

Cool Microsoft people that send the hotfixes:
Bala (manager is Lahar Tahbildar)
Corey coreysq@microsoft.com (manager is ???)
Erik erikwi@microsoft.com (manager is Randy)
Kathy a-kathye@microsoft.com (manager is Shawn Brewer)
Ranjana (manager is Hemanth Kumar)
Selva (manager is Hemanth Kumar)

E-mail address for managers is: managers@microsoft.com

Other e-mail addresses used by Microsoft to send fixes:
comprule@microsoft.com
support@microsoft.com
wrhelp@microsoft

Microsoft people that don't send the hotfixes and give you a line of bull:
Abhiranjan *** (THIS GUY WILL WASTE YOUR TIME) *** (manager is Dennis Mathen)
Ajay (manager is Anurag Yadav)
Sandeep (manager is Prabhu Narayanan)
Subramonian (manager is Ranjith Chakkambadh)
Uday (manager is Prabhu Narayanan)

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Posted 25 February 2005 - 12:01 PM

I like Erik best. at least he's intelligent and understands well our problems.
Elizabeth was also helpful when I was asking for the timedate.cpl Q237493 patch.
it's too bad I don't hear from her anymore.

I'm no longer going to request the Q265528 patch. it's probably crap. MS article
265528 now states that the problem applies to Win95 SP1 and Win98 standard edtion,
as in Win98 1st edition and not 2nd edition. At least the Win95 version of the Q265528
fix IS included in the DUN 1.4 update for Win95.

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Posted 25 February 2005 - 04:49 PM

sybesma said:

Got the 242941 fix, FINALLY, and my batting average is back to 1.000 again.
May I also get a copy of the Q242941 fix, please?
Please click the E-mail link at this page.
Many thanks in advance.

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Posted 25 February 2005 - 05:37 PM

nah MDGX. Q242941 patch is a near ripoff. has serenum.vxd file from Win98se.
may be useful for Win95 and Win98 1st ed but totally useless for Win98se.

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